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30 minutes ago, SoccMan said:

Nothing wrong with that , but let’s get real looked like maybe a couple of hundred people there to greet him compared to other places in the world . Remember seeing videos of his arrival in China for example where thousands upon thousands of people at the airport and lining his bus route to greet him .

Honestly, it might be controversial here but I prefer we do it our way. People are still packing the stadium but he is an opponent, in both international and club play. There is no reason to give him a hero's welcome.

On the rumors, at the risk of being a bit of a broken record, I'll remind everyone that nobody has actually ever come up with something concrete that a sale, let alone a move, is in consideration. An editorial in La Presse actually made a good point against it: as much of Saputo's micromanaging and tantrums cause issues with the club it does show he is still very much deeply emotionally invested with it, for both good and ill...

I'll also add that regardless of what happens to the Impact as an MLS club the worst thing for the CPL to build a following in MTL and in Québec overall is to create a sense of people rejoicing at the Impact's problems and hoping for its demise as an MLS club on the CPL's behalf. For example, when OneSoccer published an admittedly terrible take on this (like, it might actually have been their worst instance of jumping to the conclusion they want to be true, merely having a freakin intern getting some French Canadian media through deepl for the pundits to read would have been enough for them to not be nearly as uninformed as they where and it was one of the worse instances of Toronto-centrism I saw in any media) there was walls of tweets bashing the CPL, calling it a waste of national teams money and a glorified beer league. Obviously, those were angry people lashing out due to their emotion of the moment but for at least some of them said emotions would stick around and become actual opinions, leading to some Québec Soccer fans not only being very hard to convince to give the league a shot but might very actively discourage others who would be more willing to do so...

IMO what the CPL really need to do to make in Québec in the moment is a. Find a way to get Québec city into the tent and b. Do better when it come to bilingualism, both because ATO and HFX have shown you can get results with French speakers if you put the effort in term of outreach and having your content available in French and because, frankly, any league that consider itself Canada's league just has to embrace both official languages.

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18 hours ago, costarg said:

Uhhh what?  Are you familiar with the details?  It's the other way around good sir. 

Getting fleeced wouldn't be so bad, Saputo has it way worse than that.  There is no "break" either, he's getting absolutely swindled in the deal.

 

How is that different from what I said ?  Are you suggesting he is robbing the city?

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Gotta laugh at the reffing in this match.  Choiniere just got fouled in the box.  No call.  Messi sticks his foot out to fake contact with Waterman.  Free kick.  
 

But MLS is going to have to try harder because Montreal just scored another one. 

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4 hours ago, Ruud said:

How is that different from what I said ?  Are you suggesting he is robbing the city?

Perhaps a misunderstanding.  I understood you meant he was hoping and trying to screw the city.  The deal he signed showed he was more than fair and honest, if anything he was naive.  He just expected the city to also play fair and be a partner, they've been anything but.

The other sports teams enjoy all kinds of perks, while Saputo just keeps being told his family doesn't need help, lIke the other owners aren't also billionaires.

I'm no expert, but I don't know of many team owners paying to build a stadium they don't own, on land they don't own, pay rent and property tax, and hand it back when the lease ends, 100 years I believe, but still.

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Honestly, as far as defeat goes this one does not bother me all that much. Pulling a performance like they did with the current size of injury list and the off-the-pitch drama against such a beast of a team, and one that refs accross the league have tended to be pretty nice to, deserve respect. 

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20 minutes ago, phil03 said:

Honestly, as far as defeat goes this one does not bother me all that much. Pulling a performance like they did with the current size of injury list and the off-the-pitch drama against such a beast of a team, and one that refs accross the league have tended to be pretty nice to, deserve respect. 

Yup.  It's kinda expected vs Miami, as sad as that is.  It's just that they've also gotten screwed vs everyone else that is frustrating.

In theory, Karma should be kicking in any second now.  I won't hold my breath.

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10 hours ago, PegCityCam said:

The number of mistakes made in the lead up to Columbus' 3rd was tragic. I love the MLS but sometimes it's so incredibly hard to watch.

CFM's defence is still their weak area and it's been that way for a few years. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Kadenge said:

CFM's defence is still their weak area and it's been that way for a few years. 

 

The CB's are just horrible.  Corbo doesn't seem to know or understand the concept of man-marking.  Waterman showed some great moves and flashes going forward, but defensively... wow.  

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7 hours ago, jonovision said:

The CBs are poor, you're right, but some of the biggest issues defensively yesterday, including on the first two goals, was the work of guys like Lassiter and Wanyama.

Wanyama looked past it, with no recovery wheels or energy.  On the first goal, Lassiter had to cover the immediate danger of the inside guy and leave the eventual scorer outside of him free because of another daisy chain of blown coverages.

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25 minutes ago, BearcatSA said:

Wanyama looked past it, with no recovery wheels ir energy.  On the first goal, Lassiter had to cover the immediate danger of the inside guy and leave the eventual scorer outside of him free because of another daisy chain of blown coverages.

I was faulting Lassiter more for the second goal, where he gave the ball way, chased well, but then stopped running at the top of the 18.

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8 hours ago, Kadenge said:

CFM's defence is still their weak area and it's been that way for a few years. 

 

Fair point but it was honestly all over the pitch. Like a 3 to 4 minute stretch of mistake after mistake going forward, backward, sideways. You name it. 

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3 minutes ago, PegCityCam said:

This was bound to happen. Montreal just don't have the horses to stay competitive in the MLS. Too bad, their fans have come out in support and deserve a better squad.

Valour and Montreal should explore some kind of relationship. Maybe 2 for 1 therapy sessions for their fans? 

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21 minutes ago, PegCityCam said:

This was bound to happen. Montreal just don't have the horses to stay competitive in the MLS. Too bad, their fans have come out in support and deserve a better squad.

We literally have our three best strikers off on injuries and three key offensive pieces in the midfield injured alongside them. I'd argue that basically any club in a salary cup environment who was attack-oriented would suffer mightily in such circumstances.

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3 hours ago, phil03 said:

We literally have our three best strikers off on injuries and three key offensive pieces in the midfield injured alongside them. I'd argue that basically any club in a salary cup environment who was attack-oriented would suffer mightily in such circumstances.

4 injured strikers, but that isn't even the biggest issue, none of the CB's are playing at MLS level.  They're just terrible.  2- the formation really isn't working for this squad.  So many guys out there just seem lost.  With a healthy team, they have a strong enough midfield and offence, they should be winning matches 4-3.  The D just isn't good enough to keep them in it.

TFC also had a tonne of injuries, yet they still got results.  CFM is just a mess at the moment.  Courtois seems like he might be part of the issue.  Perfect example of a coach who only knows one formation and system, cannot adapt.

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21 minutes ago, costarg said:

4 injured strikers, but that isn't even the biggest issue, none of the CB's are playing at MLS level.  They're just terrible.  2- the formation really isn't working for this squad.  So many guys out there just seem lost.  With a healthy team, they have a strong enough midfield and offence, they should be winning matches 4-3.  The D just isn't good enough to keep them in it.

TFC also had a tonne of injuries, yet they still got results.  CFM is just a mess at the moment.  Courtois seems like he might be part of the issue.  Perfect example of a coach who only knows one formation and system, cannot adapt.

While I don’t think any of the CBs have been stellar, the bigger issue is the midfield not tracking runners.  When TFC is playing the ball into space either on the wing or between the midfield and defense and are breaking 4 on 3, it’s not the CBs that are the problem. It’s either the fact the midfield isn’t tracking back or the manager has the wrong set up.  That being said, the amount of errant simple passes or the recipient not moving towards it or not holding it up was rather amazing. That just put the defense under enormous pressure all match. It’s really a combination of stuff all over the pitch on defense.  

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