CMNT vs CWNT - by the numbers

[MrR]

The following Canadian Soccer News numbers reflect the difference in interest between the CMNT matches and CWNT matches at the 2022 & 2023 World Cup Finals:

Match Thread: World Cup Group F - Matchday 1 - Belgium v Canada - November 23, 2022 - 10pm local time / 2pm ET / 11am PT: Replies 839 - Views 38.5K

Match Thread: World Cup Group F - Matchday 2 - Croatia v Canada - November 27, 2022 - 7pm local time / 11am ET / 8am PT: Replies 887 - Views 40.1K

Match Thread: World Cup Group F - Matchday 3 - Canada v Morocco - December 1, 2022 - 6pm local time / 10am ET / 7am PT: Replies 660 - Views 24.9K

Match Thread: World Cup Group B - Matchday 1 - Nigeria v Canada - July 20, 2023 - 10:30pm ET / 7:30pm PT / 12:30pm local time: Replies 139 - Views 3K

Match Thread: World Cup Group B - Matchday 2 - Canada v Ireland - July 26, 2023 - 8 am ET / 5 am PT / 8 pm local time: Replies 96 - Views 2.5K

Match Thread: World Cup Group B - Matchday 3 - Canada v Australia - July 31, 2023 - 6 am ET / 3 am PT / 8 pm local time: Replies 135 - Views 4.4K

 

[MrR]

In the cycle leading up to hosting the 2015 World Cup, the CWNT played the following 51 international friendlies:

September 17, 2011, Friendly, Kansas City, United States, Canada vs United States 1–1

September 22, 2011, Friendly, Portland, United States, Canada vs United States 0–3

November 22, 2011, Friendly, Phoenix, United States, Canada vs Sweden 2–1

February 28, 2012, Cyprus Women's Cup, Larnaca, Cyprus, Canada vs Scotland 5–1

March 1, 2012, Cyprus Women's Cup, Nicosia, Cyprus, Canada vs Italy 2–1

March 4, 2012, Cyprus Women's Cup, Larnaca, Cyprus, Canada vs Netherlands 1–0

March 6, 2012, Cyprus Women's Cup, Larnaca, Cyprus, Canada vs France 0–2

March 24, 2012, Friendly, Foxborough, United States, Canada vs Brazil 2–1

March 31, 2012, Friendly, Malmö, Sweden, Canada vs Sweden 1–3

May 30, 2012, Friendly, Moncton, Canada vs China 1–0

June 30, 2012, Friendly, Sandy, United States, Canada vs United States 1–2

July 9, 2012, Friendly, Vevey, Switzerland, Canada vs Colombia 1–0

July 14, 2012, Friendly, Châtel-Saint-Denis, Switzerland, Canada vs New Zealand 2–0

July 17, 2012, Friendly, Savièse, Switzerland, Canada vs Brazil 1–2

January 12, 2013, Four Nations Tournament, Yongchuan, China PR, Canada vs China 1–0

January 14, 2013, Four Nations Tournament, Yongchuan, China PR, Canada vs South Korea 1–3

January 16, 2013, Four Nations Tournament, Yongchuan, China PR, Canada vs Norway 0–0

March 6, 2013, Cyprus Women's Cup, Larnaca, Cyprus, Canada vs Switzerland 2–0

March 8, 2013, Cyprus Women's Cup, Nicosia, Cyprus, Canada vs Finland 2–1

March 11, 2013 Cyprus Women's Cup, Nicosia, Cyprus, Canada vs Netherlands 1–0

March 13, 2013, Cyprus Women's Cup, Nicosia, Cyprus, Canada vs England 0–1

April 4, 2013, Friendly, Nice, France, Canada vs France 1–1

April 7, 2013, Friendly, Rotherham, England, Canada vs England 0–1

June 2, 2013, Friendly, Toronto, Canada vs United States 0–3

June 19, 2013, Friendly, Paderborn, Germany, Canada vs Germany 0–1

October 30, 2013, Friendly, Edmonton, Canada vs South Korea 3–0

November 24, 2013, Friendly, Vancouver, Canada vs Mexico 0–0

December 12, 2013, Torneio Internacional Brasília, Brazil, Canada vs Scotland 2–0

December 15, 2013, Torneio Internacional Brasília, Brazil, Canada vs Chile 0–1

December 18, 2013, Torneio Internacional Brasília, Brazil, Canada vs Brazil 0–0

December 22, 2013, Torneio Internacional Brasília, Brazil, Canada vs Scotland 1–0

January 31, 2014, Friendly, San Francisco, United States, Canada vs  United States 0–1

March 5, 2014, Cyprus Women's Cup, Nicosia, Cyprus, Canada vs Finland 3–0

March 7, 2014, Cyprus Women's Cup, Larnaca, Cyprus, Canada vs Italy 3–1

March 10, 2014, Cyprus Women's Cup, Nicosia, Cyprus, Canada vs England 0–2

March 12, 2014, Cyprus Women's Cup, Nicosia, Cyprus, Canada vs Republic of Ireland 2–1

May 8, 2014, Friendly, Winnipeg, Canada vs United States 1–1

June 18, 2014, Friendly, Vancouver, Canada vs Germany 1–2

October 25, 2014, Friendly, Edmonton, Canada vs Japan 0–3

October 28, 2014, Friendly, Vancouver, Canada vs Japan 2–3

November 24, 2014, Friendly, Los Angeles, United States, Canada vs Sweden 1–0

November 26, 2014, Friendly, Los Angeles, United States, Canada vs Sweden 1–1

January 11, 2015, BaoAn Cup, Shenzhen, China PR, Canada vs South Korea 2–1

January 13, 2015, BaoAn Cup, Shenzhen, China PR, Canada vs Mexico 2–1

January 15, 2015, BaoAn Cup, Shenzhen, China PR, Canada vs China 2–1

March 4, 2015, Cyprus Women's Cup, Nicosia, Cyprus, Canada vs Scotland 2–0

March 6, 2015, Cyprus Women's Cup, Larnaca, Cyprus, Canada vs South Korea 1–0

March 9, 2015, Cyprus Women's Cup, Nicosia, Cyprus, Canada vs Italy 1–0

March 11, 2015, Cyprus Women's Cup, Larnaca, Cyprus, Canada vs England 0–1

April 9, 2015, Friendly, Bondoufle, France, Canada vs France 0–1

May 29, 2015, Friendly, Hamilton, Canada vs England 1–0

So far, as of today, with only 3 years to go before Canada co-hosts the 2026 World Cup Final, the CMNT has played 0 international friendlies. How much money did the CSA spend flying, accommodating and feeding the CWNT on the 51 international friendlies they played in preparing for the World Cup Final that Canada hosted in 2015? Will this factor into the contact between the CSA and the players?

[MrR]

Obviously, the Voyageurs are far more interested in the CMNT than the CWNT. The numbers in the lead post of this thread confirm that. Therefore, why was there an unlimited amount of $$$ spent on the women's program, and the men have to beg for a single game a year against Japan. Let's face, the Christine Sinclair era is over. We are now into the Alphonso Davies era! It's time to wake up de Vos! This is happening on your guard!

[DoyleG]

[TOcanadafan]

The game times for the CWNT at this year's World Cup were not ideal for viewing... but I give you that the men are a much bigger draw.  Still, it is good to bring up that the women were able to play 51 GAMES!!! leading up to the 2015 World Cup... albeit not flying in business/1st class or staying at 5 star accommodation I'm sure. So maybe the CSA wasn't as broke as some are saying pre-CSB deal.  

Another slightly unrelated observation... in the lead up to the Vancouver 2010 games, the Federal government started to pump large amounts of money into "the program" / athletes so we might actually "win" the Olympics.  I wondering how much lobbying has been done since winning the bid?  I know it's a bit apples and oranges, but still, pony up a bit so we don't suck and actually have a chance here. 

 

[MrR]

2 hours ago, DoyleG said:

After the Heritage Committee hearings, the CSA will be lucky to receive enough federal mula to "Own the Meconium."