Atlantic Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 narduch, dyslexic nam, Dominic94 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Why would this not have been through the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Why would this not have been through the draft? He didn’t declare - also he just signed with OBELISQ so seems like he had pro options jordan, NVsoccer and Dominic94 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Atlantic said: He didn’t declare - also he just signed with OBELISQ so seems like he had pro options Ok. Possibly a stupid question then but what are the pros and cons of not declaring? Why doesn't everyone who just got out of NCAA do that? Stryker911, Bison44, toontownman and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Ok. Possibly a stupid question then but what are the pros and cons of not declaring? Why doesn't everyone who just got out of NCAA do that? I suppose that if it allowable for a club to talk to a player out of NCAA, and there is mutual interest, the player could opt out of the draft and then sign with the club. There could possibly be a decision to leave NCAA to avoid breaking any NCAA rules over eligibility. Was Auguste a graduating senior? Anyway, the more young Canadian players on MLS rosters, the better. johnyb, Bison44, Xavier. and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Yeah he was a senior. It just another weird thing that happens in MLS. They make it seem like this is the only path for NCAA kids....MLS SUPERDRAFt..MLS....stardom. And yur right, if a guy is good enough to sign pro, why does he even care about remaining NCAA eligibility just go pro. I had guys leave school after 2 years to take lucrative jobs in my field, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footyeh Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Atlantic said: He didn’t declare - also he just signed with OBELISQ so seems like he had pro options He was draft eligible as a senior last year, and went undrafted so he couldn’t be drafted again this year. He’s technically a 5th year so he went though waivers. Benefited from Creightons run to the semi final Approve My Account Pls, Unnamed Trialist, Ozzie_the_parrot and 8 others 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Footyeh said: He was draft eligible as a senior last year, and went undrafted so he couldn’t be drafted again this year. He’s technically a 5th year so he went though waivers. Benefited from Creightons run to the semi final Only 4 years of draft eligibility but you can play a fifth, is that it? I'm seriously asking, I don't understand the rules. Is there anything stopping a NCAA player from signing directly with a MLS team without being drafted? Also: iirc in Canada U-Sports you can be drafted out of your 5th year. Footyeh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Only 4 years of draft eligibility but you can play a fifth, is that it? I'm seriously asking, I don't understand the rules. Is there anything stopping a NCAA player from signing directly with a MLS team without being drafted? Also: iirc in Canada U-Sports you can be drafted out of your 5th year. NCAA is only 4 years of playing eligibility. You can redshirt/medical redshirt, but you cant play more than 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, Bigandy said: NCAA is only 4 years of playing eligibility. You can redshirt/medical redshirt, but you cant play more than 4 years. Also not sure about soccer but I know in football, the covid year didn’t count against them. So they could technically play 5 years (plus any redshirt/medical redshirt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footyeh Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Only 4 years of draft eligibility but you can play a fifth, is that it? I'm seriously asking, I don't understand the rules. Is there anything stopping a NCAA player from signing directly with a MLS team without being drafted? Also: iirc in Canada U-Sports you can be drafted out of your 5th year. Yes, you can only become draft eligible if either you’ve signed generation adidas contract as an underclassmen, or you’re a senior (based on academic standing, not athletic). You can play a fifth year (Covid gave everyone an extra year/or redshirting like someone mentioned above) but you’ll be draft eligible in your senior academy year. and no, unfortunately you can’t just enter the mls directly without the draft. Even if you leave college and sign with a MLS 2nd team, in the following year that same club you signed with would need to draft you (your MLS rights) in order to sign you to the first team (see pick 14 Max Arfsten for example) Unnamed Trialist and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Footyeh said: Yes, you can only become draft eligible if either you’ve signed generation adidas contract as an underclassmen, or you’re a senior (based on academic standing, not athletic). You can play a fifth year (Covid gave everyone an extra year/or redshirting like someone mentioned above) but you’ll be draft eligible in your senior academy year. and no, unfortunately you can’t just enter the mls directly without the draft. Even if you leave college and sign with a MLS 2nd team, in the following year that same club you signed with would need to draft you (your MLS rights) in order to sign you to the first team (see pick 14 Max Arfsten for example) The monopoly relationship between NCAA and pro leagues, hard to believe that such suspension of labour and contractual rights is legal in a country with anti-trust laws like the US. narduch, Stoppage Time and Footyeh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: The monopoly relationship between NCAA and pro leagues, hard to believe that such suspension of labour and contractual rights is legal in a country with anti-trust laws like the US. Indeed. I would have thought that in free market economies with fundamental freedoms of association potential employees would be free to negotiate with whichever employee they preferred and vice-versa. Such is the irony of the free market. Would it not be better for players to just decide when to leave school and when to go to work? I would imagine that a top NCAA sophomore, for example, could leave NCAA to play in Europe without barriers in the way; however, that same person would be restricted from joining a MLS team without entering the draft? Weird. Of course, I am open to being informed if I have this wrong. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Made the bench toontownman, Xavier., dyslexic nam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 On 12/22/2022 at 11:44 AM, Footyeh said: and no, unfortunately you can’t just enter the mls directly without the draft. Even if you leave college and sign with a MLS 2nd team, in the following year that same club you signed with would need to draft you (your MLS rights) in order to sign you to the first team (see pick 14 Max Arfsten for example) Can they use a team outside of the US as a loophole? For example, let's say Montreal wants an NCAA player, can Wanderers sign that player and then transfer them to Montreal to avoid the draft? toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footyeh Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Kent said: Can they use a team outside of the US as a loophole? For example, let's say Montreal wants an NCAA player, can Wanderers sign that player and then transfer them to Montreal to avoid the draft? I've wondered this myself and I think they probably could.... unless the MLS somehow determines the player must go through waivers or something ridiculous like that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Footyeh said: I've wondered this myself and I think they probably could.... unless the MLS somehow determines the player must go through waivers or something ridiculous like that lol Come on - MLS would never use bizarre rules to govern transfers and player movement. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Canadian SPREAD (Super Priority Re-Entry Allocation Draft) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Goal of Auguste vs Austin FC II. Bison44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Option declined https://x.com/houstondynamo/status/1731781367174758904?s=46&t=KtwBDROwUH8sPUlYu2GlIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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