Watchmen Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 13 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Funny how no one, not one poster, has mentioned the Whitecaps have had a very strong pre-season and look ready to compete. The last two years we had very bad starts, iirc. Playing away. Then got on runs. If we don't get too far behind, and can compete away from home, it could be a strong season. Hard to judge when they're not streamed. Stanley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Hasal could be going out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 ^As I said earlier in this thread, if you are going to sign an international keeper on TAM, he's going to be getting a large majority of the starts, not a 1A/1B at all. Hasal needs to be a starter somewhere at this stage of his career. Stanley and Shway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 9:51 AM, narduch said: Switching from one evil corp to another. It's not crypto, so I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Just now, Watchmen said: It's not crypto, so I'll take it. Crypto companies probably can't afford it anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, narduch said: Crypto companies probably can't afford it anymore Probably not. I'm mostly just saying that there's companies I'd find much more objectionable than another telecom company (even while I dislike the oligarchy of them in this country). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Not a single Canadian in the starting 11 for VWFC's final tuneup. I get the feeling we're going to see a lot of this this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) .... Edited February 18, 2023 by narduch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Schuster must have been misquoted regsrding the Bilboa comments. He didn't mean Athletic Bilboa, what he meant to say was Anti Bilboa, in that he doesn't want to play any Canadians. HochelagaFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Watchmen said: Hasal could be going out on loan. Which CPL club needs a starting goalkeeper? Could Hasal that player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 14 Whitecaps matches will be on TSN/RDS ex Leagues Cup/playoffs. 3 matches in May. 4 months with 2 matches. 3 months with 1 match. Watchmen, aredding77 and Goal_Kick 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, El Hombre said: Not a single Canadian in the starting 11 for VWFC's final tuneup. I get the feeling we're going to see a lot of this this year. And yet, I'm actually more interested in the Canadians on the team this year. Ahmed has by all accounts been really good in preseason, I'm sure we'll be seeing Yao throughout the season, and Raposo is destined to be a frequent sub at worst this year (though people are higher on him than I am). Plus, I think we can guarantee the backup goalie is going to be Canadian (be it Hasal or someone else) and I think they're likely to get minutes. Compare that to last year. Teibert was a regular starter, but being relegated to the bench is a benefit to everyone. Cavallini's issues are well documented. I'm glad we gave Hasal a chance but he couldn't stay healthy and his numbers were below par, and I'm more than happy to have him go off on loan to continue his development with hopefully a return in the future. They might be regularly starting fewer, but there's also less recycled veterans on the team that counted towards the "Canadian minutes played" but weren't really helping the national team program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 whitecaps are playing in four competitions this year...theres no need for hasal to go anywhere...stay and fight...when you bring a foreign goalkeeper there could be a language barrier(already speaks english in this case), adjustment needed to the style of play etc...so who knows how it will go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/vancouver-whitecaps-sign-sergio-cordova-from-bundesliga-s-augsburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, MM3/MM2/MM said: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/vancouver-whitecaps-sign-sergio-cordova-from-bundesliga-s-augsburg If he at least replicates last season, that's Cavallini's 9 goals replaced. Hopefully he can do more, while getting fewer cards. Edited February 21, 2023 by Watchmen Goal_Kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_Kick Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 6'2" and 200lbs! Sergio is a big lad. Might be good for some havoc in front of the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 9:32 AM, El Hombre said: Not a single Canadian in the starting 11 for VWFC's final tuneup. I get the feeling we're going to see a lot of this this year. That’s an indictment of the Canadian quality on the team more than anything. We have Canadian depth pieces, but only Raposo/Guti (Martins) and Teibert (Schöpf) are likely to challenge for a starting spot this year. Hasal was statistically one of the very worst goalkeepers in the league last season. Boehmer isn’t ready yet, but may have jumped Hasal on the depth chart Yao is probably 4th/5th on the CB depth chart Ahmed looks promising, but he’s got a lot of competitors at LB Habibullah and Campagna are probably destined for WFC2 It’s not as though there is a crop of Canadian MLS starter quality players out of work right now. Wouldn’t be sad to see Sam Adekugbe return at some point though. On 2/18/2023 at 1:42 PM, Big_M said: whitecaps are playing in four competitions this year...theres no need for hasal to go anywhere...stay and fight...when you bring a foreign goalkeeper there could be a language barrier(already speaks english in this case), adjustment needed to the style of play etc...so who knows how it will go Hard disagree. Hasal never looked close to MLS quality last year. His shot stopping was bottom decile iirc. He needs game time badly at whatever level he can get it. Takaoka was in the J-League best 11. He’s exceptionally unlikely to lose that spot unless he gets hurt. There’s also a pretty compelling argument to be made that Boehmer was better than Hasal last year, and should be the number two moving forward. Hasal has missed a lot of development time to injuries. He needs game time that he simply will not get in the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 comment was in reply to anybody who wanted him to get elsewhere in mls and get time...as a move elsewhere in mls would not guarantee a starter spot and maybe push him even further away...now if he was that bad and its about going to a lower level then fine...but they have a next pro team right there and again with the first team in four competitions a lot of things can happen...injuries suspensions...uslc and usl1 starting up soon so unlikely anyone is still looking for a #1...cpl almost everyone has their #1 except maybe a question mark at pacific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 10 hours ago, footballfreak said: It’s not as though there is a crop of Canadian MLS starter quality players out of work right now. Wouldn’t be sad to see Sam Adekugbe return at some point though. I've been hearing this or something like it for the last ten years every time a Canadian team gets chastised for their lack of Canadians. And here we are, coming off our first World Cup in 36 years, Canadians on the rise all around the world and we set a record last season for the amount of minutes played by Canadians in MLS and that has been increasing every year for the last five. But yet the VWFC party line is "buT, tHerE's nO goOOd caNAdiaNs aVAilAblE!!". If that helps you cheer for this team then fill yer boots. It's a crock of shit in my mind. Kadenge, HochelagaFC, narduch and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I'm not getting the anger at VWC. Hasal, Ahmed, Rapaso, Tiebert, Yao should all be in the mix for lots of minutes this year. Last year they had 2-3 CDN starters most games?? Sure there is turn over, Cavs is gone, but I am still excited to see what the CDN content will do. footballfreak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bison44 said: I'm not getting the anger at VWC. Hasal, Ahmed, Rapaso, Tiebert, Yao should all be in the mix for lots of minutes this year. Last year they had 2-3 CDN starters most games?? Sure there is turn over, Cavs is gone, but I am still excited to see what the CDN content will do. just trying to balance the hate so that @RS doesn't feel we are picking on TFC HochelagaFC, Bison44 and narduch 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kadenge said: just trying to balance the hate so that @RS doesn't feel we are picking on TFC Spread the hate, fine. But I'm ok being left out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Kadenge said: just trying to balance the hate so that @RS doesn't feel we are picking on TFC Hate is a good thing...the guys giving it to TFC are usually (in my case) their big fans that are mad they dont do more. Van and Montreal (from an outside perspective) seem to be doing a pretty good job. footballfreak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, El Hombre said: I've been hearing this or something like it for the last ten years every time a Canadian team gets chastised for their lack of Canadians. And here we are, coming off our first World Cup in 36 years, Canadians on the rise all around the world and we set a record last season for the amount of minutes played by Canadians in MLS and that has been increasing every year for the last five. But yet the VWFC party line is "buT, tHerE's nO goOOd caNAdiaNs aVAilAblE!!". If that helps you cheer for this team then fill yer boots. It's a crock of shit in my mind. Your argument would hold a lot more water if you had named even one of these mystery Canadians sitting on the sidelines somewhere that deserve to be MLS starters but aren’t. The Whitecaps main starter needs in the offseason were: GK, ST, LCB. Who were the Canadians available in those positions? Not sure where the Whitecaps hate is coming from. They signed multiple Canadian homegrowns to senior contracts in the offseason, drafted two Canadians, brought CanPL players into WFC2, gave a home to Montreal castoff Karifa Yao. What more do you want exactly? Be specific. Who are the players that the Whitecaps have let slip through the cracks? Edited February 25, 2023 by footballfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 hours ago, El Hombre said:I've been hearing this or something like it for the last ten years every time a Canadian team gets chastised for their lack of Canadians. And here we are, coming off our first World Cup in 36 years, Canadians on the rise all around the world and we set a record last season for the amount of minutes played by Canadians in MLS and that has been increasing every year for the last five. But yet the VWFC party line is "buT, tHerE's nO goOOd caNAdiaNs aVAilAblE!!". If that helps you cheer for this team then fill yer boots. It's a crock of shit in my mind. Speaking of that World Cup run, here are the players from that list that spent time with the Whitecaps over those ten years you speak of: Davies, Adekugbe, Crépeau, Henry, Cavallini, Cornelius, Gutierrez. By my reckoning, that’s 1.5 starters, 4.5 second string guys, and 1 fringe player. If you want to add fringe guys who didn’t make any appearances but were reasonably high in the player pool, you can throw in another four in - Teibert, Raposo, Baldisimo, and Ricketts. All could have seen WCQ call-ups under the right injury conditions. Given Canada’s positional needs, there is an outside case that a Simon Colyn or Theo Bair were also in that pool, though I concede both would be considered an outside stretch. So by my estimation that’s 11 current or former Whitecaps players who were in the 50-60 man WCQ pool. Is that number really so much lower than the other MLS sides when you consider: A substantial portion of our pool, perhaps 30-40%, have never played in MLS. The names that immediately spring to mind from qualifying are David, Ugbo, Corbeanu, Hoilett, Millar, Brym, Wotherspoon, and Kennedy; but without checking I’m sure there are plenty more in the extended pool. Another cohort spent time in MLS, but have never played for a Canadian team (Tajon, Tesho, St. Clair, etc) You’re left with something like 30-40 players in the 60 man pool that spent time with a Canadian MLS side at all. Without counting, I’m guessing it’s closer to 30 than to 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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