PegCityCam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: I have 4 tickets to both game and I won't be going. Fuck this nonsense and the clowns that support it. Like I've said many times, this country will never get ahead in this sport because this country is packed with idiots and you get what you deserve in life How do I mute this clown? Seriously, I need to know. RS and jhoops__ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1973 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, PegCityCam said: How do I mute this clown? Seriously, I need to know. Probably don't have to...he is clearly done with all of this so he'll stop. Redpunkfiddle, dyslexic nam, Bison44 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, SoCalTransport said: It’s funny how Wheeler always seem to be a conduit for the CSA The same guy that published the initial story says something similar johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: No I don't Ha! What, are you a trust fund brat? Never worked a day in your life? Must be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil03 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: We can put whatever group of Canadians are willing to represent Canada at the World Cup. Everyone else can stay at home and tweet about it We can do that, sure. It doesn't mean it isn't a terrible idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: I have 4 tickets to both game and I won't be going. Fuck this nonsense and the clowns that support it. Like I've said many times, this country will never get ahead in this sport because this country is packed with idiots and you get what you deserve in life Put them on the ticket exchange or Facebook as “FREE TICKETS” since you you’re about to waste them. Maybe reach out to your clubs youth team or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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An Observer Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: I don’t know and probably in a minority and I know what the US did, but why would the men qualifying result in splitting their compensation 50/50 with the women? I am all for growing the women’s game but I doubt the money they got for qualifying for all those world cups was split with the men over the years and frankly it shouldn’t have been. It should be invested in their own game. InBorjanWeTrust, Kingston, Red and White and 17 others 18 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 I don’t believe the CSA. Shway and canucksfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 #BontisOUT InBorjanWeTrust, canucksfan, Stryker911 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 So according to this Article- French players got 30% of the prize money from the last World Cup https://money.com/france-just-won-the-world-cup-heres-how-much-their-players-get/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Didnt the Ghanian player get 3mil in cash from their federation before playing...over 100k each. That must have been around 30% of the total fee eh?? SpecialK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 https://money.com/world-cup-2018-players-make/?ref=/france-just-won-the-world-cup-heres-how-much-their-players-get/ another article about break downs of Brazil , Germany and others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bison44 said: Didnt the Ghanian player get 3mil in cash from their federation before playing...over 100k each. That must have been around 30% of the total fee eh?? Ya 3 million on the plane Edited June 5, 2022 by SpecialK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, SpecialK said: So according to this Article- French players got 30% of the prize money from the last World Cup https://money.com/france-just-won-the-world-cup-heres-how-much-their-players-get/ On top of their qualifying bonus? On top of their already established regular game appearance fees. The thing is every nation has these debates at the table we just thought we were immune to it. And tbh I don’t even think those nations are comparable. What did Panama, Costa Rica, and Peru player’s get at Russia? Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trosenoff Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Can someone make a tshirt like this one but with Bontis as the clown. What a complete and utter joke jonovision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, An Observer said: I don’t know and probably in a minority and I know what the US did, but why would the men qualifying result in splitting their compensation 50/50 with the women? I am all for growing the women’s game but I doubt the money they got for qualifying for all those world cups was split with the men over the years and frankly it shouldn’t have been. It should be invested in their own game. What USA did will be coming to Canada. It has to. CSA knows it. They didn’t get ahead of it and now are behind the 8-ball. 2 tickets is nonsense but it’s just a bargaining position. So are flights for family etc. But what we are seeing here is pretty much as one soccer reports. Leveraging from players versus CSA figuring out equity with women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/19/uswnt-collective-bargaining-equal-pay Over to CSA to sort this out and both men and women to accept. In US 90% of World Cup revenues goes to both men and women (details left out such as which rosters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 The article above also says that Norway pays the players 25% of any prize money. So there is wiggle room on the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 7 hours ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: The CSA also knows that if they pay 40% then the women will make a claim for the equivalent $ figure just as the US women did. Put the two together and poof, nearly all of the money is gone. You have misunderstood the US deal. They agreed that all prize money would be pooled from both teams and then divided up equally. So if the US men earn $20M and the US women earn $5m (which is more then they actually got for winning the 2019 WC) then the total prize pool would be 40% of $25M to be split between all the players on both teams evenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 https://www.tsn.ca/Soccer/video/scianitti-players-listening-to-csa-staying-unified-in-solidarity~2457142 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, ted said: You have misunderstood the US deal. They agreed that all prize money would be pooled from both teams and then divided up equally. So if the US men earn $20M and the US women earn $5m (which is more then they actually got for winning the 2019 WC) then the total prize pool would be 40% of $25M to be split between all the players on both teams evenly. No, you just missed the point. The initial report was the Canadian men specifically want 40% for themselves alone without regard to the women. My point was that agreeing to 40% going to the men means you'll have to match that for the women, so the true cost will end up being 80%.. I'm fully aware of the US deal being pooled. Their collective prize payout is 90% so it works out to 45% each. The US soccer federation generates $60M/year in revenue, two thirds of it from genuine commercial revenue. They can afford to give away the farm on prize money. ted, johnyb and Shway 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: No, you just missed the point. Sorry, you seem to have missed my point. There is no way that the Canadian players are stupid enough to try anything that ridiculous. The article says they have been in contact with the US players so they know what the deal is: 40% (according to the news reports I have read. ) Let's be serious, the French only get 30%, so at best that is what they will get plus some expenses for family to attend the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, ted said: Sorry, you seem to have missed my point. There is no way that the Canadian players are stupid enough to try anything that ridiculous. The article says they have been in contact with the US players so they know what the deal is: 40% (according to the news reports I have read. ) Let's be serious, the French only get 30%, so at best that is what they will get plus some expenses for family to attend the tournament. Read the Guardian link above. The collective deal is 90% for the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamlinguine Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 hours ago, red card said: It was noted on twitter yesterday by a few people including a Canadian Press reporter. Wheeler at half time said CSA offer was significantly higher than 10%. It also involves a pay equity arrangement with the women players which means the men will get less. Disband women's teams that demand equal pay when they can't draw flys to their games. jonovision and rkomar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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