Unnamed Trialist Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: Its a shame they weren't covering the team properly before this, and not just them but the rest of our media - if they had been, we might have learned about this yesterday. Its incredible to me that the story broke 24 hours after the team failed to show up for a practice, and even then the story has been broken by somebody in Toronto (who now obviously has a pipeline into someone on the team) rather than any of the media present where the team is currently located. I imagine one of the players "leaked" the dispute to Westhead just so that they could get it noticed since nobody seemed to have noticed the lack of the team showing up yesterday. It's also possible they leaked it after practicing today deliberately, to avoid questions about if they were also going to hold out today. By practicing today they make it clear they are not on strike but have already exercised a job action. A mature approach. We are clear that the CSA squandered a friendly gate at BC Place of something like 3.5 million (we don't know exactly) before costs, what would have meant at least 2 million in benefits. 20% of the FIFA payout for Qatar and half the annual CSA budget. canucksfan, RJB, Metro and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 None of this would ever have happened if they held this weeks games in Toronto... What a shambles for the CSA. Kiss Koleosho goodbye. Let's hope Herdman doesn't get a good offer for club football. Shway and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I support the CSA on this one.. Canada is going to the next 2 World Cup regardless of who's in the 18 Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: I support the CSA on this one.. Canada is going to the next 2 World Cup regardless of who's in the 18 I think you might be underthinking this one. QBCS, lenny, Scottie and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Apparently the CSA is blaming the financial problems on the deal they signed with the CSB, the Canadian equivalent to SUM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: I think you might be underthinking this one. Is my statement untrue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 If viewed as a 'labour dispute' it's really no big deal. Honestly, this type of posturing by the players is important because they are at their maximum leverage. Good for them. But these disputes get worked out in the end, and we're hardly the first country to go through. At this point the CSA hasn't screwed up, the situation just needs time to resolve itself. The Beaver 2.0, Free kick and jhoops__ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: Is my statement untrue? Yes, because officially no team has been granted the automatic berth yet for 2026. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 So this is why Herdman never calls extra player?? The guys need bigger cuts of the bonus money?? Califax, Kyle_The_Hill, Shway and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil03 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: Is my statement untrue? No but getting to the WC and getting slaughtered then won't help the game in the country and will actively hurt it. We can't just put a random 18 guys in kit. Team Canada is its players, coach and staff. Edited June 4, 2022 by phil03 The Beaver 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Ally McCoist said: This list keeps getting bigger. This is the exact banner I was talking about. And then maybe a TIFO of the revenue generated where it’s dispersed and then a question mark. canucksfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 So the players were apparently part of a small group of entities that pressured the CSA to cancel the Iran game. They did this while knowing they were going to take action to negotiate more compensation duringthis window. So the CSA caved which pushed them to a vulnerable financial situation while the media worked to convince the public that the CSA was a bad guy regarding the friendly with Iran. Red and White, johnyb and Free kick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, phil03 said: No but getting to the WC and getting slaughtered then won't help the game in the country and will actively hurt it. We can't just put a random 18 guys in kit. Team Canada is its players, coach and staff. We can put whatever group of Canadians are willing to represent Canada at the World Cup. Everyone else can stay at home and tweet about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Dominic94 said: The reality here which can’t be overlooked is that the USMNT can afford that split because they have way more revenue elsewhere and we don’t. We can’t give them 40%, but 20% ish or so is fair. could be posturing from the players, but maybe their standard appearance fees have stayed the same, while they know that attendances and prices for tickets have increased as a result of “them”. 1 hour ago, Dominic94 said: Also the national trainning facility is nice and all for the youth teams but I mean for now it’s now like Vancouver, Montreal and BC don’t offer nice places to train… This is the biggest waste of money imo. Especially since we know the woodbine project is being done. Anddddd the fact they want to put it in Vaughan, few minutes down the street from the OSA which could do with an investment with the field space they have around the property. To me, that money would be better suited building a facility somewhere in the country that needs it. Instead of building another mediocre, small high school facility in a province that has enough of it. If it’s now wowclass or world class I don’t want to see it in the GTA. Stryker911, NVsoccer, canucksfan and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasi Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 This is a shit show that one expects to happen in a minnow nation or an ulta corrupt one. Looks like we check both those boxes. So sad. I knew that qualifying would not fix the CSA issues, but I did not imagine that they could get worse. So embarrassing. No new kit, no tv broadcasts, no new sponsors, no friendlies and now this. Holy fuck. canucksfan, TOcanadafan and Stryker911 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksfan Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Lots of discussion about this on TSN during the Whitecaps halftime. I think this kills any remaining ticket sales for tomorrow even if it goes ahead. Shway and Bison44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermanfran Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 What a shitshow. Figure it out, CSA. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 johnyb and ted 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: So the players were apparently part of a small group of entities that pressured the CSA to cancel the Iran game. They did this while knowing they were going to take action to negotiate more compensation duringthis window. So the CSA caved which pushed them to a vulnerable financial situation while the media worked to convince the public that the CSA was a bad guy regarding the friendly with Iran. Underthinking again. And a misrepresentation of the facts. You don't believe in paying folks a fair wage? canucksfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, The Beaver 2.0 said: Underthinking again. And a misrepresentation of the facts. You don't believe in paying folks a fair wage? No I don't PegCityCam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: We can put whatever group of Canadians are willing to represent Canada at the World Cup. Everyone else can stay at home and tweet about it You are clearly thinking this through. What a strategic genius! RS, dyslexic nam and Joe1973 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Gian-Luca said: Its a shame they weren't covering the team properly before this, and not just them but the rest of our media - if they had been, we might have learned about this yesterday. Its incredible to me that the story broke 24 hours after the team failed to show up for a practice, and even then the story has been broken by somebody in Toronto (who now obviously has a pipeline into someone on the team) rather than any of the media present where the team is currently located. I imagine one of the players "leaked" the dispute to Westhead just so that they could get it noticed since nobody seemed to have noticed the lack of the team showing up yesterday. It was noted on twitter yesterday by a few people including a Canadian Press reporter. Wheeler at half time said CSA offer was significantly higher than 10%. It also involves a pay equity arrangement with the women players which means the men will get less. narduch and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, red card said: It was noted on twitter yesterday by a few people including a Canadian Press reporter. Wheeler at half time said CSA offer was significantly higher than 10%. It also involves a pay equity arrangement with the women players which means the men will get less. Wait for it... RS and canucksfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 I have 4 tickets to both game and I won't be going. Fuck this nonsense and the clowns that support it. Like I've said many times, this country will never get ahead in this sport because this country is packed with idiots and you get what you deserve in life RJB, NVsoccer and johnyb 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTransport Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, red card said: It was noted on twitter yesterday by a few people including a Canadian Press reporter. Wheeler at half time said CSA offer was significantly higher than 10%. It also involves a pay equity arrangement with the women players which means the men will get less. It’s funny how Wheeler always seem to be a conduit for the CSA narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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