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For what it's worth, in the CIBC sponsorship news for CPL and Canada Soccer, it mentions this.

"CIBC is excited to contribute to Canadian soccer’s ongoing journey to build on the momentum of the sport from coast to coast to coast by helping enhance the growth of other properties that are core to the sport of soccer in Canada, such as Canada Soccer’s Para Soccer National  Team, League1 Canada and support for the development of the women’s professional game."

https://cibc.mediaroom.com/2022-11-10-CIBC-Signs-Multi-Year-Sponsorship-Agreement-with-Canada-Soccer-Canadian-Premier-League

https://canpl.ca/article/canadian-premier-league-canada-soccer-sign-multi-year-sponsorship-agreement-with-cibc

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Dino Rossi in AFTN. Discussed L1 Alberta starting this year (even though it's just an exhibition series), L1 Atlantic next year (and mentioned PEI having representation) and an L1 prairies that would cover Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Northern Ontario by 2025.

https://aftn.ca/episode-560-the-aftn-soccer-show/

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I'm a bit surprised at how quick some of these other leauges are moving. L1BC was in the works for like 3 years. Alberta had some rumblings with that weird D2 Canadian National League thing, but was still very quick, but Martimes up and running in under a year and Praries as well...Impressive.

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3 hours ago, Watchmen said:

Dino Rossi in AFTN. Discussed L1 Alberta starting this year (even though it's just an exhibition series), L1 Atlantic next year (and mentioned PEI having representation) and an L1 prairies that would cover Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Northern Ontario by 2025.

https://aftn.ca/episode-560-the-aftn-soccer-show/

Prairies covering Saskatchewan, Manitoba AND Northern Ontario? That's interesting.

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Northern Ontario is probably just for the Thunder Bay Chill to have somewhere to play. 

Them having a USL2 franchise, CONCACAF and the CSA are probably ending the cross border sanctioning, so the Chill can't be the only team with an exemption (or other will complain that they can't do USL2) 

Obviously, Thunder Bay is not ideal for Saskatchewan, but it's really a catch22, there's not really a good spot anywhere for the Chill, but need to go somewhere

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9 hours ago, rydermike said:

Northern Ontario is probably just for the Thunder Bay Chill to have somewhere to play. 

Them having a USL2 franchise, CONCACAF and the CSA are probably ending the cross border sanctioning, so the Chill can't be the only team with an exemption (or other will complain that they can't do USL2) 

Obviously, Thunder Bay is not ideal for Saskatchewan, but it's really a catch22, there's not really a good spot anywhere for the Chill, but need to go somewhere

Yeah, but if it is going to include Thunder Bay, one would assume that FC Manitoba would also be involved. I know Thunder Bay already have a youth team playing in one of the Winnipeg leagues, so it would make sense for the senior side t do the same.

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League One is not a model you can just shoe-horn into every geography. If it doesn't work because travel is extreme, you have to look for other solutions. Even when you are talking about just 7-9 weekends with extreme away travel a year (8-10 team leagues).

One possibility is that teams in geographies that can't be travelling to other provinces easily (Newfoundland, Thunder Bay) continue to play in their regional summer leagues, and then winners go do shorter tournaments against L1 teams, as a way of matching quality and measuring levels. 

It's interesting how much interest there is in L1, like from clubs in the Maritimes. I mean, you are going to lose money playing L1, unless you can really drum up paying crowd support or find success with local sponsors. There seems to be more interest from above in filling out a fully national structure for L1 than what we see with CPL, where we seem to just take what we can get, without a seriously proactive effort to solve regional imbalances. 5 years in, barebones French on the website, nothing in Québec---really?

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On 4/25/2023 at 4:54 PM, rydermike said:

Northern Ontario is probably just for the Thunder Bay Chill to have somewhere to play. 

Them having a USL2 franchise, CONCACAF and the CSA are probably ending the cross border sanctioning, so the Chill can't be the only team with an exemption (or other will complain that they can't do USL2) 

Obviously, Thunder Bay is not ideal for Saskatchewan, but it's really a catch22, there's not really a good spot anywhere for the Chill, but need to go somewhere

I still have doubts at the end of the day that Thunder Bay ended up in such a league, its almost 8 hours to Winnipeg and 13 hours to Regina, simply does not make any sense for them to be out on their own little island like that on many fronts. Winnipeg to Regina is 6 hours. They do these types of trips in the Western Hockey League but that league has a real revenue stream. We see how Windsor seems to end up with short benches for road games in L1O, not ideal at all. 

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Yeah, I agree that Thunder Bay is in an awkward location that makes travel difficult for all involved (especially at a mostly (if not completely) amateur L1 level). It basically comes down to whether CONCACAF and the CSA will force them to play domestically in which case some league will have to let them in, with Dino Rossi's comments sounding like that will be L1 Praries.

I have no issues with them staying in USL League 2, but will it be allowed by the higher powers? KW United weren't and chose to fold over joining L1O, same with the Fury and the USL-C. Another such example is the Yukon Selects who were to join the UPSL Alaska (until COVID shut that down) - if they wanted to try UPSL again, would they be allowed to cross border? L1BC is not practical at all (28 hour drive to Vancouver)

Another interesting case is FC Berlin (from Kitchener) and Chantilly Forever FC (from Hamilton) who appear to have gotten around the sanctioning issue and joined UPSL by setting up clubs in the US and playing home matches there and crossing the border for their 'home matches'

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Rollins says vision of a standards-based, semi-pro level of the pyramid is one of the most important developments in Canadian soccer this century. It’s right up there with MLS coming. And I don’t think the CanPL happens at all, without League1 starting first.

Having a development pathway that is independent of the federation is vital to the success of the sport. It reduces the damage that mistakes at the CSA level have on the game. There are a lot of great footballing nations out there with federations that are, um, challenged. They are successful because the country’s clubs produce talent.

This is not to say that we shouldn’t work to fix the issues at the CSA, but if you have a healthy pyramid then issues at the federation level are mostly just noise.

https://24thminute.substack.com/p/the-1way-forward

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On 6/21/2023 at 11:22 PM, red card said:

Rollins says vision of a standards-based, semi-pro level of the pyramid is one of the most important developments in Canadian soccer this century...

Why can we not have promotion and relegation all the way up from the local amateur leagues at that level like they do in Australia with NPL? Answers on a postcard to GTA Suburban Youth Clubs Dominate our Voting Structure, Ontario Soccer Centre, Vaughan, Ontario.

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