Unnamed Trialist Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I don't entirely agree with the above, since Blasco had problems getting back in after missing the bubble due to his father's death. And the team was playing well with similar mids on form. I have mixed feelings. The offer for Bustos and Blasco leaving for Honduras makes you realise the league is paying poorly and has trouble competing on salary. You want to see the league move players, but not because the champion can't pay its MVP a bit more to keep him. Then, if MacNaughton gets an MLS offer, you'd have to be pleased the league, and club, are doing their job. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Are we sure either Bustos or Blasco had offers for better money? I feel like the Chile rumour could just be that, a rumour to create some hype and get an MLS team to bite. I don’t know what salaries are like down there, but I thought Bustos was the highest paid in CPL and he’s previously made it clear that he’s gunning for MLS. Alternatively it could be a footballing decision. He’s been in NA a long time now. I saw a stat that Blasco was amongst the leaders in chances created per 90 this year. His finishing was completing lacking this year but I think he still could’ve been useful going forward. The coach might have other plans though. I always got the feeling he was in it for the experience more than the money though, so I wouldn’t assume Honduras out bid us Edited January 7, 2022 by Aird25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 https://northerntribune.ca/toronto-fc-lukas-macnaughton-interest/ would imagine the transfer goes through shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I hope it goes through and hope he continues to improve. Seems a bit weird they would write Dunn off and bring him in, McNaughton is far more rash and error prone (pretty common with younger cb's) from what I have seen of them both, which is what I thought they would be wanting to get away from at TFC. He is however a true fighter, strong voice and great coming forward though, big upside if he can step up and learn. Hugely likeable and a great potential story for the CPL and Lukas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 2:41 PM, Aird25 said: Losing Bustos, Blasco, and MacNaughton etc. in one year would be a big blow. How does Forge seem to keep their championship teams largely together That remains to be seen if they will now that things have opened up a bit more but I think the main reason is that they had extra money to offer players due to CONCACAF League commitments. I also have a perception that they have more older players than PFC does with less to offer as transfers. That may not be accurate, but it feels right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Campbell and Hojabrpour gone to Forge: https://pacificfc.canpl.ca/article/thank-you-terran-campbell-and-alessandro-hojabrpour Edited January 8, 2022 by shorty Edgewater17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 To bloody Forge? ted and chalms04 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, shorty said: Campbell and Hojabrpour gone to Forge: https://pacificfc.canpl.ca/article/thank-you-terran-campbell-and-alessandro-hojabrpour Moves like this do little to dispel the (conspiracy?) theory that Forge is competing on a different financial level from the rest of the league. narduch, ted, chalms04 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Forge SSH here. Happy but this is just strange ... it would seem reasonable of the league to give some financial flexibility to their first team in the CCL - they’ll need it. But they would definitely get more games for Pacific in CONCACAF league. Obviously forge isn’t beating Cruz azul. jonovision, toontownman, ted and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 49 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: Forge SSH here. Happy but this is just strange ... If Bobby can't beat us, he buys us? toontownman and Unnamed Trialist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, ted said: If Bobby can't beat us, he buys us? Impossible to say given the sample size ... ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_twelve Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I was worried with the rumours of Bustos and MacNaughton going but thought we could still be decently competitive without them. Losing Hojabrpour and Campbell both is a big loss. I think York and Forge are going to be a step, if not two, above everyone else next year. ted and Mikmacdo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Quite the changing of the guard. Not all negative provided they are getting some money for these transfers. Some big holes but I expect some exciting times ahead with how they will replace the outgoing players. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Some people saying on Twitter that Pacific was tight to the cap. Which I can believe. I have a hard time believing Pacific was spending more than Forge, though. For the sake of everyone (and mostly the players) I really wish they'd publish salary figures. ted and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Half our team came from one agency, Peak, a couple years ago and now they’ve pretty much all moved on. Very strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 My understanding is that the Forge did wind up with some extra money against the cap from the Borges transfer and if the Babouli to Saudi/Qatar rumour is true may be receiving some more soon. Beyond that the Forge also have the advantage of Sigma as a feeder team. Lots of local players living within driving distance to fill out the roster who don't need accomodation (which I have read counts against the cap) and don't need to be paid a bit extra to persuade them to relocate. Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 9 hours ago, ted said: If Bobby can't beat us, he buys us? Now Ted, as Pacific fans we should be eternally grateful to Bobby for making our first campaign in Concacaf easier. I only have gratitude for Bobby. Aird25 and ted 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 why would they get extra money against the cap for transfers out? is this a single entity league? Mikmacdo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeIsABlasco Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Losing Campbell and Hojabrpour is big. Blasco was my favourite player, but he's a player we can get over. However, if this gives us room for the cap to expand our roster and sign some better players then it's a bonus but I am starting to worry after seeing news that MacNaughton is wanted by Toronto, we could end up with some massive gaps to fill. Potentially losing Bustos doesn't phase me too much, he's the leagues golden boy but we played better without him imo. I can honestly see Bustos, MacNaughton & potentially Chung going. It's frustrating to see so many gaps appearing. We need to see some strong recruitment for the 2022 season, otherwise it could end up being a wooden spoon year. HochelagaFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_twelve Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 By the sounds of it Pacific are losing players due to the cap so any replacements will be downgrades on the players leaving. Add this to the fact that any new players need to integrate into a new team (Campbell and Hojabrpour have both logged some of the most minutes/games with the club) and there's definitely reason to be concerned with this off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeIsABlasco Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, davey_twelve said: By the sounds of it Pacific are losing players due to the cap so any replacements will be downgrades on the players leaving. Add this to the fact that any new players need to integrate into a new team (Campbell and Hojabrpour have both logged some of the most minutes/games with the club) and there's definitely reason to be concerned with this off season. That's the issue, isn't it? What players would take a small paycheck are on the same level as Campbell, goals wise? I can't imagine many players will be interested even if we are champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I guess I'm in the minority that from a Pacific perspective these are two players that won't be impossible to replace From a Forge perspective, good additions but if this is their Champions League player push, it ain't gonna cut it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeIsABlasco Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, SpursFlu said: I guess I'm in the minority that from a Pacific perspective these are two players that won't be impossible to replace From a Forge perspective, good additions but if this is their Champions League player push, it ain't gonna cut it I agree in the sense that no players are impossible to replace, but Campbell has had a solid season & this year was the best yet for Hojabrpour. The move makes no sense to me, unless Forge have much more pulling power salary wise, but again, I don't understand how it could be under a cap as small as the CPL. I would've called for European or MLS moves, but either way I hope we strengthen wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Perhaps Pacific can enter into a closer loan arrangement with VWFC ( although I do not yet know where the 'Caps will stand with that new MLS league for younger players). Would Bair, Campagna, Facchineri, Habibullah, and/or another young player gain benefit from playing with Pacific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, LifeIsABlasco said: I agree in the sense that no players are impossible to replace, but Campbell has had a solid season & this year was the best yet for Hojabrpour. The move makes no sense to me, unless Forge have much more pulling power salary wise, but again, I don't understand how it could be under a cap as small as the CPL. I would've called for European or MLS moves, but either way I hope we strengthen wisely. The confusing part for me is that all of the players seem to love Kah. Why leave that support and guidance behind unless you are getting a huge pay raise or moving on to an inarguably higher level of play? Usually when you see five top players leave (or rumoured to leave) a club within a week of each other there is something glaringly wrong behind the scenes. ted and Unnamed Trialist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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