Strait Red Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, hulkrogan said: I think we need to slow down a little. June: "I hope we beat Suriname, I'm nervous with all of their Dutch call ups" October: "We'd better fucking destroy Mexico or I'm done with this team" The constantly evolving mindset of this board. hulkrogan, Cblake, Alex and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, scullion44 said: Mexico playing USA away right before us with their key players on a yellow card is massive for us. I hope it's a rough game. It might be worth it to fly Doneil down for that game to stretch at the corner flag? Edited October 15, 2021 by Kadenge JamboAl, johnyb, Cblake and 9 others 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: 4) Bayern, Besiktas, Lille, Moreirense, Panetolikos, St Johnstone and Reading all play on the Saturday (Nov 6th). Pacos, Hatayspor, Basel & Rangers play on the Sunday (November 7th). Red Star Belgrade likely will too (Europa League) This is BIG for our big guns David and Davies. David has gone Sunday games last 2 windows and Azteca was Thursday. Going to be 2 extra days rest for David this time :). Edited October 15, 2021 by apbsmith B_Leaf, Cblake and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, scullion44 said: Mexico playing USA away right before us with their key players on a yellow card is massive for us. I hope it's a rough game. Holy shit. I didn't realize this. This is Mexicos toughest window, and quiet possibly the USAs with their game against Jamaica away. Wait for it.....this window has become our most important one yet, as we'll have the potential to close the gap on Mexico or overtake the USA. Cblake, Kusch to the Corner, Sal333 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 20 hours ago, scullion44 said: I swear if Drake ends up cursing us… Nah man, Raptors won the chip and he was (insert whatever adjective you want here) as a Raptors fan. Sure he was a "paid ambassador" but he was definitely a supporter as well. Shway, Cblake and Sal333 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowe Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 < 3 pts - Disaster 3 - Disappointing 4 - Fine 6 - Party time. ray, johnyb, Cblake and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, hulkrogan said: I think we need to slow down a little. June: "I hope we beat Suriname, I'm nervous with all of their Dutch call ups" October: "We'd better fucking destroy Mexico or I'm done with this team" The only time I read or heard that comment was in your post. No one has expressed that sentiment. Nice attempt at creating a strawman. Shway and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I don't know it's been said yet but, one thing we've learned about Herdman is that Bayern & Lille be damned, he gives no fucks about playing our youngins as long as he needed to get results. I don't think there's any other game plan but to take it to Costa Rica and Mexico this window kmacphee, Cblake, dyslexic nam and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 17 hours ago, trc2014 said: More jersey chasing than bandwagoning. That whole thing was orchestrated yesterday so he could get Davies game jersey. Well he didn't get the game jersey I was in section 114. Post game when the team came over, a 10 year old kid blew through security and ran onto the field up to Davies. Poked him on the shoulder and asked Davies for his jersey. Davies lifted his arms , with his huge Davies smile almost like 'how did you get on the field'? Davies took off the jersey and gave it to the kid and the kid bare hugged Davies. Security ran up to the kid and escorted him off.... Mattd97, Cheeta, lamptern and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Cblake, Kent, Unnamed Trialist and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, RS said: Herc has been praising Canada for awhile now from before the start of this final round. I agree with everything he says except for the part where he claims Herdman has Canada punching above their weight. I think he's wrong. Herdman is making sure they're punching their weight. Even a huge fan like Herc hasn't quite realized the quality on this team. Cblake, Kadenge, h coach and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Sal333 said: Herc has been praising Canada for awhile now from before the start of this final round. I agree with everything he says except for the part where he claims Herdman has Canada punching above their weight. I think he's wrong. Herdman is making sure they're punching their weight. Even a huge fan like Herc hasn't quite realized the quality on this team. So basically you are saying Herdman is a lot worse than Herc thinks? Because of course, if he is just getting the bare minimum results to expect from the players, he is just a bare minimum level coach. I'm going to tell John you said this on the board, and he won't be happy. I get the hyperbole but it betrays you over and over again. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 hours ago, RS said: He's a smart journalist because he knows how to get at the bloated mindsets of these Mexican journalists. Still, that the guy upper left was arguing that Lozano (and not Jiménez) was the best player in the region and thus Mexico, where does that put Lozano in the context of losing the Gold Cup and the Nations League? I mean, the best player in the region could not ensure the best team won two trophies. At least if he'd said Raul J. he'd have given Mexico an excuse. Most teams with gloried histories, even though Mexico is a lot less gloried than they think, have droves of journalists like this living off them. And then, as a piquant minority, the Hercs come along. narduch, apbsmith, Cblake and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: So basically you are saying Herdman is a lot worse than Herc thinks? Because of course, if he is just getting the bare minimum results to expect from the players, he is just a bare minimum level coach. I'm going to tell John you said this on the board, and he won't be happy. I get the hyperbole but it betrays you over and over again. What exactly betrays me? And how does it betray me? You got me mixed up with some other poster because you've liked every post of mine where I talk about Herdman. Every one except for this one. Maybe you're betraying yourself. Also, you're putting words into my mouth. I never said he's getting the bare minimum. You said that and now you're trying to shove those words into my mouth. I said Herdman has got them punching at their level. Herc has miscalculated the talent on this team and thinks the quality he sees is mostly Herdman's doing. See how what I said is completely different from the horseshit you claimed I said? Edited October 15, 2021 by Sal333 RS and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I am definitely hoping for a win against Mexico although I don’t expect it. That being said, playing them in the cold on turf (and after their match against the US) puts us at an advantage and frankly, after the Gold Cup and Azteca, I just think we match up really well against them. They just struggle with the combination of our speed, strength and technical ability. I honestly think we have a better chance against them in Nov in Edmonton than against the US in Jan in Vancouver even if I think overall, they are still the best side in the region. narduch, lowlander and Cblake 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, An Observer said: I am definitely hoping for a win against Mexico although I don’t expect it. That being said, playing them in the cold on turf (and after their match against the US) puts us at an advantage and frankly, after the Gold Cup and Azteca, I just think we match up really well against them. They just struggle with the combination of our speed, strength and technical ability. I honestly think we have a better chance against them in Nov in Edmonton than against the US in Jan in Vancouver even if I think overall, they are still the best side in the region. I think they the can beat Mexico , no doubt about it, but do I automatically expect it no. This is going to be a tough match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) Need to pure focus on Costa Rica, whatever it takes to get 3 points vs Costa Rica then move onto the next task. Qualification is a war but one bad match, can be devastating. Best Example: Jamaica Panama winning and getting 3 points away in Jamaica. That one match, has had incredible implications in the standings and could ultimately be Jamaica's entire demise. Edited October 15, 2021 by apbsmith vs* Sal333 and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod818 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) Match Day 6 sees Davies, David, Johnston and Tajon selected to top 11 Edited October 15, 2021 by pod818 Bene11, apbsmith, Xavier. and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, pod818 said: Match Day 6 sees Davies, David, and Tajon selected to top 11 You forgot All Star Johnston. Shway, footballfreak, Cblake and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, pod818 said: Match Day 6 sees Davies, David, Johnston and Tajon selected to top 11 Mexican media will be pissed that Chucky Lozano's not on there. apbsmith, Cblake, Sal333 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, RS said: Mexican media will be pissed that Chucky Lozano's not on there. Noting wrong with that , fuck them. MtlMario and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Simulations are meaningless unless you are making anticipate decisions based on them. Go buy your tickets to Qatar today if you think otherwise. It's even insulting to ELO that you'd even equate them. Regardless, this is totally flawed. None of the upcoming matches repeats, many of the precedents for "prediction" of the previous matches, many of the key parameters are different in each case. So you can't extrapolate anything from the first six results: one team we haven't played, another we see at home now, another was just starting and now has its back to the wall. Another may be eliminated when we see them. Coaches will have changed. This is just pseudo stats, which I like as much as pseudo science. Further: the whole point for us, unlike Mexico say, is to break the predictor's back. The whole pont is to fuck predictors for once. It's probability based on the most likely outcomes of the higher ELO ranked team beating the lower ranked ELO ranked team with a small bias for home field. The simulation is run 5000 times. Obviously it's not a perfect model but it will be correct more often than it's not. footballfreak, Approve My Account Pls, maplebanana and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cblake said: Noting wrong with that , fuck them. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstackho Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, BuzzAndSting said: It's probability based on the most likely outcomes of the higher ELO ranked team beating the lower ranked ELO ranked team with a small bias for home field. The simulation is run 5000 times. Obviously it's not a perfect model but it will be correct more often than it's not. Or, alternatively, a model will never be correct. We won't 75% qualify for the WC - we either do or we don't. I can't tell you what the next flip of a coin will be. But we can tell you what its chances are. We can't be as accurate with the probability of soccer games, but we can make an educated guess - which is all this is. RS, Kent, El Hombre and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplebanana Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, sstackho said: Or, alternatively, a model will never be correct. We won't 75% qualify for the WC - we either do or we don't. I can't tell you what the next flip of a coin will be. But we can tell you what its chances are. We can't be as accurate with the probability of soccer games, but we can make an educated guess - which is all this is. Perfectly put. Please keep up the analysis (I should figure out how to use el_noido's files too). Don't let people who hate math-based analytics discourage you. footballfreak, Stryker911, Mattd97 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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