Floortom Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Is the first one Cristian Campagna? I know he’s training at the Camp but it doesn’t really look like him too much. Not sure about the second guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, El Hombre said: There are a couple faces I don't recognize. Any ideas? I think the first might be Jay Herdman. John's son who plays for the Whitecaps Academy El Hombre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2nd guy is Paton I think Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Thanks for the heads-up. I see he's from Barcelona, coached Espanyol youth, originally was hired by Fury but had visa problems. Then was at High Park in Toronto. It's odd they'd have a u15 coach with them, but it's good for his experience. As far as I can tell, every coach on the male side of the program is with them. I have no idea what all their roles are though. I guess he is the video analyst, Kerr is the keeper coach, Caldwell coaches the defence, not sure about Biello, Biecentini and Olivieri (maybe strikers, midfielders amd wingers)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: As far as I can tell, every coach on the male side of the program is with them. I have no idea what all their roles are though. I guess he is the video analyst, Kerr is the keeper coach, Caldwell coaches the defence, not sure about Biello, Biecentini and Olivieri (maybe strikers, midfielders amd wingers)? I find that really encouraging. As long as everything it tied together with an underlying approach, it seems encouraging that Herdman is deputizing so many specialists to get the most out of our guys. When you see the AirPods to receive advice and the entourage he has compiled, it is pretty hard to dispute the fact that he is doing everything he can to help achieve success. Given that one of the criticisms I read on here from his detractors relates to ego, it seems positive that he has shown humility in getting the assistance needed to be successful. Edited July 24, 2021 by dyslexic nam WestHamCanadianinOxford, apbsmith, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: 2nd guy is Paton I think Definitely not bruv lol. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Simply put, if we think we're a top team then this is a match we should win - even without Davies or David. Herdman failed test one at this stage last time, but he has done as expected since (win then lose v USA in Nations League, beat Haiti over two legs in WCQ) (ok, so maybe the win v USA in Nations League wasnt expected). He needs to find a way this time for us to be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Guti in the whitecaps starting line-up tonight. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, trc2014 said: Guti in the whitecaps starting line-up tonight. And was terrific. N1ckbr0wn, TOcanadafan and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Going to be a tough one. Costa Rica is much closer to having their best team for this than we do, so if we win, it will be a great sign for WCQ. Costa Rica haven't looked great but they have had enough experience & tactical acumen to pull out victories thus far. It's a team that knows how to win, ours still needs to prove we can win knock-out matches, something that hasn't happened in the Gold Cup since we smashed Guatemala 3-0 in the 2007 Q-F, and this is a much stronger opponent that that. Hopefully we take that step tonight. apbsmith, N1ckbr0wn, king1010 and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: Going to be a tough one. Costa Rica is much closer to having their best team for this than we do, so if we win, it will be a great sign for WCQ. Costa Rica haven't looked great but they have had enough experience & tactical acumen to pull out victories thus far. It's a team that knows how to win, ours still needs to prove we can win knock-out matches, something that hasn't happened in the Gold Cup since we smashed Guatemala 3-0 in the 2007 Q-F, and this is a much stronger opponent that that. Hopefully we take that step tonight. Agreed. Another "statement making" match here against a traditional bogeyman side. I await Herdman's tactical set up, approach, and in-game adjustments for this one. I hope we can grind out the win. Club Linesman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Is Costa Rica a 'bogeyman side' though? My impression is that we've typically played up to expectations against them (lots of draws). In fact, in the 2000s, Canada has 2 wins, 5 draws, and 4 losses against Costa Rica, a team that has qualified for the World Cup 4 times during that period (Canada qualified 0 times, in case anyone had lost count). Obinna, narduch and HochelagaFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) In the Gold Cup they haven't been a bogeyman side for us - but we have never played them in a knockout match in this tourney. I believe the results have been: 2000 - 2-2 draw, Corrazin with a PK goal and a scissor-kick goal 2003 - 1-0 Canada win in the first round (although we were largely outplayed - I was at this match in Foxboro as were a number of others on this board) 2005 - 1-0 loss on a bogus PK call when the ball was smashed off Patrice Bernier's shoulder in the 18 yard box from about 2 feet away 2007 - 2-1 Canada win on two goals by De Guzman after falling behind 1-0 early in the second. This time I think the scoreline flattered Costa Rica 2009 - Another 2-2 draw, I think we were down 1-0, then De Jong & Bernier scored in rapid succession & the Ticos tied it up before the half, in a game where we had (I think) already won the group after a couple of Ali Gerba goals lead to 1-0 wins over Jamaica & El Salvador That part of it bodes well, but not sure how much this particular history is really going to play a factor. Getting over the Q-F hump against a side that will be considered the favourites over us (on FIFA ranking and overall form/experience over the last 10-12 years) is the bigger factor IMO. Edited July 25, 2021 by Gian-Luca johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 gator, Olympique_de_Marseille, lamptern and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) We have American ref Jair Marrufo http://refereeingworld.blogspot.com/2021/07/concacaf-gold-cup-2021-quarter-finals_25.html?m=1 Edited July 25, 2021 by narduch gator, JuicyHam and N1ckbr0wn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: In the Gold Cup they haven't been a bogeyman side for us - but we have never played them in a knockout match in this tourney. I believe the results have been: 2000 - 2-2 draw, Corrazin with a PK goal and a scissor-kick goal 2003 - 1-0 Canada win in the first round (although we were largely outplayed - I was at this match in Foxboro as were a number of others on this board) 2005 - 1-0 loss on a bogus PK call when the ball was smashed off Patrice Bernier's shoulder in the 18 yard box from about 2 feet away 2007 - 2-1 Canada win on two goals by De Guzman after falling behind 1-0 early in the second. This time I think the scoreline flattered Costa Rica 2009 - Another 2-2 draw, I think we were down 1-0, then De Jong & Bernier scored in rapid succession & the Ticos tied it up before the half, in a game where we had (I think) already won the group after a couple of Ali Gerba goals lead to 1-0 wins over Jamaica & El Salvador That part of it bodes well, but not sure how much this particular history is really going to play a factor. Getting over the Q-F hump against a side that will be considered the favourites over us (on FIFA ranking and overall form/experience over the last 10-12 years) is the bigger factor IMO. Good list, thanks. Most recently we drew them 1-1 in the 2017 Gold Cup. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) There was also the 0-0 game at BMO during the Floro era... a rare GC game played in Canada think it was 2015? Edited July 25, 2021 by Kadenge Greatest Cockney Rip Off, Floortom and gator 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kadenge said: There was also the 0-0 game at BMO during the Floro era... a rare GC game played in Canada think it was 2015? Yep Haber (I think?) scored very late but it was called off for an offside. Edited July 25, 2021 by Floortom Club Linesman, Kadenge and trc2014 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, Floortom said: Yep Haber (I think?) scored very late but it was called off for an offside. They needed to win that game to get out of the group, very disappointing. Raining like crazy that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, trc2014 said: They needed to win that game to get out of the group, very disappointing. Raining like crazy that day. When we were chasing a goal late Floro subbed in Hainault😅 The amazing thing is that it almost worked when a ball off a set piece fell right on his foot but CR managed to block his shot Nate3322 and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, narduch said: We have American ref Jair Marrufo http://refereeingworld.blogspot.com/2021/07/concacaf-gold-cup-2021-quarter-finals_25.html?m=1 https://www.besoccer.com/referee/matches/jair-marrufo-29623/2019 So it's the same ref we had during our 3-2 loss to Haiti during our previous Gold Cup quarter-final match. https://www.concacaf.com/en/gold-cup/game-details?matchid=476787 This is a good omen right!?! Right?!! Edited July 25, 2021 by Olympique_de_Marseille dyslexic nam and narduch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 51 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: https://www.besoccer.com/referee/matches/jair-marrufo-29623/2019 So the ref we had during our 3-2 loss to Haiti during our previous Gold Cup quarter-final match. https://www.concacaf.com/en/gold-cup/game-details?matchid=476787 This is a good omen right!?! Right?!! On the positive end, I don’t remember any bad calls in that game. Atiba was actually offside that time haha Olympique_de_Marseille and Dr.Dre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Could have used the Arfield/Davies connection today. Olympique_de_Marseille, narduch, Dr.Dre and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, trc2014 said: Could have used the Arfield/Davies connection today. I'm glad our top players aren't playing in the Gold Cup. The guys there now are going to be the core of our lineup going into the Octogonal (I refuse to call it Ocho). We are not always going to have the big names available, the other guys are going to have to step up to the plate, that's why I enjoyed the USA game. They faced some real adversity for the first time in... two years? The more time for the Crepeaus, Cavallinis, Buchanans, Corbeanus, Johnstons, the better. Shame young Millar and Kennedy aren't there but that is the point, everybody can't always be there. We really could use Arfield, he might be the most valuable player that we have (or had) I'm really pleased with Crepeau, I think we are in good hands if something happens to Borjan. Good to see Crepeau getting the minutes and making good decisions and being very solid. I had been bragging them up for being the type of solid folks who could stand up to a test but the six yellow card game kinda shook my faith a little (I don't blame the ref for all of that). I just hope they justify my faith against CR like they did against the US when faced with adversity. The Real Marc, apbsmith and gator 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, trc2014 said: Could have used the Arfield/Davies connection today. Similar play to the one from Arfield to Davies vs USA at home in CNL, that one was closer to goal. trc2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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