Colliedor Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Cavallini's tackles scare me, but when it comes to work effort and chemistry with David, I trust him more. Larin can be so damn "laxed" at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkguy Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, frmr said: Cavallini misses too many chances for me and Larin is better in build up play. Cavallini is a workhorse but I prefer Larin, especially against more skilled teams. If Cav misses too many chances... does that just mean Larin gets no chances? Cav has more goals in almost half the minutes compared with Larin - and against better sides too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 59 minutes ago, Hawkguy said: If Cav misses too many chances... does that just mean Larin gets no chances? Cav has more goals in almost half the minutes compared with Larin - and against better sides too. Statistics are important but I hope you can dig a little deeper to figure out why some of the statistics vary between the two. I am all for either one of them starting the upcoming games too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reign Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 If we are talking about the player to lead the line it’s Cav every time. He is just better suited for it. Larin goes invisible when he is alone up top. I do like Larin on the wing tho. Also I think Cav just meshes so well with David, and can create space that Larin simply cannot. Hawkguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Larin isn't going to excel with this back 3. It worked this time, but I don't know smart it is not to be putting him in his best position long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 hours ago, SpursFlu said: My opinion is we have 3 automatics right now.. Davies, David & Eustaquio Laryea makes the list every day as well. Corazon and Floortom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) Larin could be playing in EPL next year, he's definitely someone we should be building around. I agree Cavallini might be better in this formation, but if that's the case, we might have to change the formation... Edited June 10, 2021 by PiedPilko JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 It is crazy that as I write this, there are 58 votes and it is split right down the middle 29 to 29. ADP10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Larin is good for his club, but until he shows consistency for Canada, I vote for Cavallini, even if Larin has higher potential MtlMario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebdeserio Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Everyone saying that Larin shows inconsistency for Canada, wasn't this his first start since he was tasked to put a mediocre team on his back at 19? He may not have had a good game but he brings more than Cavallini and hasn't ever gotten a real run of games with us since he's been at Besiktas. For me, in a vacuum, it's Larin no question. However considering Cavallini's our best (and only real) holdup striker and Larin started this one, Herdman may want to switch it up, especially since there wasn't a lot of space to work with at the start when Suriname sat back and better hold up play will help create better chances when space is at a premium. Ruffian, narduch, Corazon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 As others may have stated, the overall shape being used and players available to play may affect this answer for any given gameday, but I'm leaning slightly towards #teamCav We've seen some lean years, so this is a great problem to have. And it's mos def a luxury to have one of them coming off the bench to harass tiring defenders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Hawkguy said: If Cav misses too many chances... does that just mean Larin gets no chances? Cav has more goals in almost half the minutes compared with Larin - and against better sides too. Larin used to be horrible for Canada. He's a different player now. Cavallini still misses an awful lot of chances for Canada and his goals have dried up at club level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavemTFC Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Voted for Cavallini because I think he's a more natural fit to have alongside the Daves. But it's really damn close and frankly I think Larin, even though it isn't his biggest strength, is still better at holding the ball up then he's given credit for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, DavemTFC said: Voted for Cavallini because I think he's a more natural fit to have alongside the Daves. But it's really damn close and frankly I think Larin, even though it isn't his biggest strength, is still better at holding the ball up then he's given credit for Larin has improved a lot in his hold up play, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 If you are facing Haiti like it or not Cavallini may have to be in the starting XI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I voted based on next match. I watched the highlights of Haiti-Nicaragua. One thing I noticed was that their CBs were not that aggressive in the air, shorter rivals were getting to balls. They were also rather dirty, and were play acting quite a bit. But on par with Nicaragua. There you may need another type of toughness. Hopefully we have a ref that just passes over the embellishment and drama queen stuff. Over two legs, and I say this for both teams, cards should be properly managed, and you need to be able to get to the second match intact. Here we have to watch for Davies, as he is going to be hunted down. Sometimes he lashes out and loses his cool. As his runs are ostentatious that will happen almost for sure, and the ref will probably be saving cards for later. Meaning we could see him hurt, or risking another yellow, early in a two-leg series. Having a target striker up high, fixing the CBs, takes a bit of pressure of those attacking from wings or behind. I also like the idea of not giving Haiti what they think they'll get. So I am arguing for a rotation with Cav high, Jonathan behind him, Davies on the left or right (!), and not being overweighted in attack. We need to hold them this match, and score. And keep our squad fresh for the second round. Cheeta, johnyb, Ruffian and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I’ve seen yellow card accumulation brought up a few times but nobody seems to know the rule for qualifying. Surely it must either reset after the second round, or the limit must be more than 2 yellow cards. If we make the Oct, we have a total of 20 games, you can’t expect players to not get 2 yellows over 20 games. johnyb, Ruffian and MtlMario 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Cav right now. At worst he'll be making a nuisance of himself and that's going to afford everyone else additonal breathing room to respond to the moment. Re-watched the Suriname match yesterday and found myself agreeing almost entirely with KJ on quite a few post match points, not the least of which was how smart Osorio's match was. Off the ball movement was what it was suppose to be when on the attack. Offering options and forcing responses from Suriname. Really helped to distort the shape of the defenders and this squad of players for Canada can work with that sort of play so much better than anything in the past. Think Cav will provide more of that then Larin who I think, like David (who is outstanding at that sort of play) is best used as the trigger man than the wheel man if you get my drift. Haiti has to be all alarm bells and raid sirens about Davies and David by now. That is, if they weren't already. DavemTFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Cavallini up top against Haiti is the proper way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 45 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: Cavallini up top against Haiti is the proper way to go You said the exact same thing 3 posts ago. Why do you need to post this again? JohnnyFranchise, El Hombre, RS and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Both Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 11 hours ago, sebdeserio said: Everyone saying that Larin shows inconsistency for Canada, wasn't this his first start since he was tasked to put a mediocre team on his back at 19? No, his last start was against Bermuda, where he had a hat trick. narduch, Corazon, sebdeserio and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kent said: No, his last start was against Bermuda, where he had a hat trick. And he outplayed Cav in that game too. JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, TGAA_Star said: Cavallini up top against Haiti is the proper way to go Ok Lucas. Calm down. Get off your burner account. N1ckbr0wn, JohnnyFranchise and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 At the moment it is Larin. I don't think he was as poor last match as people were making out in the game thread. He was involved in the buildups and connected well with David, in one instance creating a half yard for himself to get a shot off. He didn't score, but so what? He didn't flub any chances either. Interesting to see how sentiments change though. Larin is supposedly part of our "big 3", is being linked to Everton and West Ham after a Turkish double, and has clearly been favored by Herdman since March, but now we are questioning whether he's behind Cavallini again? On the basis of what, the Suriname match? Don't get me wrong, I like Lucas and I expect they are going to keep battling it out for rightful place in our best eleven. At some point Cavallini will probably re-take the starting role too. It's just that I don't see the case in this situation. If the case for Cavallini is match up specific, with the argument being he holds the ball up better away from home, then okay I think that's a reasoned approach. For me though Larin and David really have good chemistry going and I would only go with Cavallini to keep Larin fresh for the return leg (in addition to him potentially holding up the ball better away from home). dyslexic nam, DavemTFC, johnyb and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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