Hawkguy Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) Just wondering what the consensus is here. There is no doubt that Cyle Larin, at this point, is the better club player. He's absolutely killing things in Super Lig (where he finished second in league scoring) and just won a league championship. He's been scoring more for Canada lately, but he seems to have a track record of not scoring against larger sides in National Play. Cavallini, on the other hand, seems to score at will at the National Level. He's 2 1/2 years old than Larin, but has capped far less than Larin due to distancing himself from the National program. However, Cavallini has returned as a man on a mission. CavalliniRecent Contributions: 16 goals in his last 14 caps.Best 3 teams scored against: Mexico, USA, Haiti.Total Stats: 21 caps, 16 goals, 2 assists, 1090 minutes. Goals per 90: 1.32LarinRecent Contributions: 8 goals in his last 14 caps.Best 3 teams scored against: Honduras, El Salvador, Bermuda.Total Stats: 35 caps, 13 goals, 1 assist, 1859 minutes.Goals per 90: 0.63 Edited June 9, 2021 by Hawkguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I voted for Cavallini. If you want to continue to use yesterday's formation I think he suits it better. Hawkguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) I would probably start Cavallini. Hate to say it but he is more effective but I just prefer Larin more to him. Edited June 9, 2021 by TGAA_Star longlugan, CanadaFan123, Bertuzzi44 and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Voted for Cavallini but not because Larin did anything wrong. Prefer to have Cavallini making space for David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkguy Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, El Hombre said: Voted for Cavallini but not because Larin did anything wrong. Prefer to have Cavallini making space for David. No one here is saying Larin did anything wrong. We haven't had many players score 13 times for us - especially by the age of 26. Only 8 players have scored more goals for Canada than him. And when all is said and done, Larin will probably slot in the top-3. But it's all about what works best for Canada. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I think it is a bit of a trick question because they are different types of players. Cav is a beast that can outmuscle a lot of defenders and is an absolute terror. Larin is a finisher who needs support in a way that Cav doesn’t seem to. Honestly, if David wasn’t written on the game sheet in permanent marker for the next 10 years, I suspect that Cav and Larin would combine pretty well. Having said all that, if I am putting a team together to get a win in a Haitian cauldron, I am probably going with Cav to start. SirBobsaget and dennis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I chose Cavallini but I don't think you can go too wrong with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdog Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I still think we go with Larin going off club form, but I’m not against starting both with Larin wide and Cav up top. Shway and A_Gagne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicyHam Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Between the 2 it would be Larin 8 times out of 10 but there would potentially be line ups where neither of them start Shway and JohnnyFranchise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I voted for Cavallini, but really it depends on the opposition and game plan. If the game plan is to play expansive footie and attack up the flanks I'm going with Larin, but if the game plan is to keep it tight and hit them on the counter I'm going with Cavallini. dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkguy Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 Really close race. I thought for sure Cav would take this considering he's scored against much better clubs (including Haiti). But it's interesting to see how we all see the games so differently. JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I voted Larin., but this is all dependent on the formation I guess...it his pace, mobility, and versatility for me that I would like to utilize early with the rest of the attackers in David, and Davies. With Cav I know I'm going to get a pure number 9, who will solely play on the last defenders and can bang with tired defenders, and be a constant threat. I personally think we should treat Davies as Barca treat messi, where he doesn't have much defensive responsibility/preserve his energy. He needs to have the freedom to do whatever in the attack We can attack with the front 3, and know that chances and goals will be created. lamptern 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 If we need to hold up the ball and draw fouls in a tough road environment, Cavallini is my man. I still think Larin is a better poacher but I am often left expecting more from him in a Canadian shirt. If Buchanon's trajectory continues, he might be ahead of those guys come the Ocho. I just think he has a skillset that combines best with David and Davies: can make something happen on his own with his pace and dribbling and is as long as he works hard and listens to coaching with his movement off the ball, he could also be a special talent for us. Grandbloke and JohnnyFranchise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devioustrevor Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Cav, because he is a fucking bulldog and sometimes that havoc creates opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Different profiles. I see Lucas as the pure CF, the #9. Larin is proving to be better coming off the wings and playing off the CF. If anything I see Larin as David's replacement when he can't play. Addona, Shway and sstackho 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) Larin got lost in the shuffle yesterday. I just think Cavallini brings another element to that front line I also reject this notion that these players are stocks going up and down weekly based on their club performance. He's good, now he's bad, he scored this week now he's good, back on the bench now he must be bad, he's start this week he must be good again Edited June 9, 2021 by SpursFlu kacbru and Grandbloke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: Larin got lost in the shuffle yesterday. I just think Cavallini brings another element to that front line I also reject this notion that these players are stocks going up and down weekly based on their club performance. He's good, now he's bad, he scored this week now he's good, back on the bench now he must be bad, he's start this week he must be good again Form is temporary, class is permanent is the old expression.. That's why being an international manager is high wire act with regards to player selection: stick with an out of form player or roll the dice a hot club level player and neither pans out, then you face a ton of scrutiny. Cavallini might be a better choice to start in Haiti on Saturday because of his skillset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) I think Larin is solid and when he was down I wasn't kicking him. I always thought he needed an opportunity to adjust to the environment in Europe. On the flip side I know he had a great goal total this year but I kinda don't see him as a " Big 3" or anything. I feel he is similar to David in his style of play and I think Cavallini helps round out the attack. I dont hate Larin starting especially against better teams where we might have more opportunities on the counter My opinion is we have 3 automatics right now.. Davies, David & Eustaquio Edited June 9, 2021 by SpursFlu JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Cavallini misses too many chances for me and Larin is better in build up play. Cavallini is a workhorse but I prefer Larin, especially against more skilled teams. JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: I think Larin is solid and when he was down I wasn't kicking him. I always thought he needed an opportunity to adjust to the environment in Europe. On the flip side I know he had a great goal total this year but I kinda don't see him as a " Big 3" or anything. I feel he is similar to David in his style of play and I think Cavallini helps round out the attack I think Larin's play has improved considerably from his European club experience. I still rate him as a good poacher in the box (better than Cavallini, imo) but Cavallini is still a far better "hold up" player in helping maintain possession. JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I like both, but every now and then Cav still scares me with his slide tackles and he can lose his cool at times … I worry that there will be a red in an important match. This is why I like Cav off the bench El Hombre and Ruffian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I would have voted "other" because my decision changes depending on what part of the world were playing in. Central or South America I would start Cavallini due to his experience in that part of the world, but overall I think Larin is the better option. Ex: I would start Cav in Haiti and Larin in Chicago. king1010, dyslexic nam and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Even though Larin had a relatively poor game yesterday, I would still start him over Cavallini. Better finisher. However, I don't think we go wrong with both on the field up front with Davies and David. Cavallini as the #9 with Davies and Larin the wingers and David behind Cav. N1ckbr0wn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) Besiktas seemed to get alot out of Larin as a LW in a 4-1-4-1. We could try. Cavallini Larin- David-Hutch/Kaye-Davies Eustaquio Edited June 9, 2021 by Stryker911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strait Red Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I voted solely on the upcoming games with Haiti. I picked Cav because of his previous success with David and his ability to be nasty SOB on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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