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WCQ: Canada vs Suriname - Tuesday, June 8th, 9:05pm Eastern/6:05pm Pacific - SeatGeek Stadium, Chicago


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Not sure if anyone has done this yet...

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/suriname/startseite/verein/15359

1
Warner Hahn
 
Goalkeeper

28RSC Anderlecht£900Th.  

13
Claidel Kohinor
 
Goalkeeper

29SV Robinhood 

23
Ishan Kort
 
Goalkeeper

20Almere City FC U21 

15
Ryan Donk
 
 
Centre-Back

35Galatasaray SK£855Th.  

19
Shaquille Pinas
 
Centre-Back

23ADO Den Haag£855Th.  

12
Myenty Abena
 
Centre-Back

26Slovan Bratislava£540Th.  

3
Ramon Leeuwin
 
Centre-Back

33AZ Alkmaar£360Th.  

-
Ridgeciano Haps
 
Left-Back

27Feyenoord Rotterdam£4.05m  

2
Damil Dankerlui
 
Right-Back

24FC Groningen£900Th.  

18
Kelvin Leerdam
 
Right-Back

30Inter Miami CF£900Th.  

4
Dion Malone
 
Defensive Midfield

32NAC Breda£450Th.  

-
Ryan Koolwijk
 
Central Midfield

35Almere City FC£315Th.  

-
Mitchell Donald
 
Central Midfield

32Büyüksehir Belediye Erzurumspor£270Th.  

21
Diego Biseswar
 
Attacking Midfield

33Apollon Limassol£900Th.  

10
Tjaronn Chery
 
Attacking Midfield

32Maccabi Haifa£720Th.  

8
Roland Alberg
 
Attacking Midfield

30Hyderabad FC£450Th.  

-
Ivenzo Comvalius
 
Left Winger

23NK Dugopolje£90Th.  

17
Dimitrie Apai
 
Left Winger

26W Connection 

-
Sheraldo Becker
 
Right Winger

261.FC Union Berlin£2.70m  

7
Florian Jozefzoon
 
Right Winger

30Rotherham United£720Th.  

-
Mitchell te Vrede
 
Centre-Forward

29Al-Fateh£855Th.  

9
Nigel Hasselbaink
 
Centre-Forward

30Ihud Bnei Sakhnin£315Th.  

20
Gleofilo Vlijter
 
Centre-Forward

21Beitar Jerusalem£135Th.  

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kanada/startseite/verein/3510

Milan Borjan
 
Goalkeeper
33 Red Star Belgrade £1.80m  
16
Maxime Crépeau
 
Goalkeeper
27 Vancouver Whitecaps FC £1.08m  
1
Dayne St. Clair
 
Goalkeeper
24 Minnesota United FC £900Th.  
21
Ricardo Ferreira
 
Centre-Back
28 Without Club £270Th.  
5
Steven Vitória
 
Centre-Back
34 Moreirense FC £180Th.  
15
Frank Sturing
 
Centre-Back
23 FC Den Bosch £180Th.  
20
Joel Waterman
 
Centre-Back
25 Club de Foot Montréal £180Th.  
19
Alphonso Davies
 
Left-Back
20 Bayern Munich £67.50m  
4
Kamal Miller
 
Left-Back
24 Club de Foot Montréal £720Th.  
12
Cristián Gutiérrez
 
Left-Back
24 Vancouver Whitecaps FC £720Th.  
3
Sam Adekugbe
 
Left-Back
26 Vålerenga Fotball £360Th.  
22
Richie Laryea
 
Right-Back
26 Toronto FC £2.25m  
2
Alistair Johnston
 
Right-Back
22 Nashville SC £1.80m  
7
Stephen Eustáquio
 
Defensive Midfield
24 FC Paços de Ferreira £3.60m  
6
Samuel Piette
 
Defensive Midfield
26 Club de Foot Montréal £1.80m  
14
Mark-Anthony Kaye
 
Central Midfield
26 Los Angeles FC £5.40m  
13
Atiba Hutchinson
 
 
Central Midfield
38 Besiktas JK £540Th.  
8
David Wotherspoon
 
Attacking Midfield
31 St. Johnstone FC £450Th.  
9
Cyle Larin
 
Left Winger
26 Besiktas JK £9.90m  
10
Junior Hoilett
 
Left Winger
30 Cardiff City £1.62m  
-
Jayden Nelson
 
Left Winger
18 Toronto FC £900Th.  
23
Liam Millar
 
Left Winger
21 Charlton Athletic £45Th.  
11
Lucas Cavallini
 
Centre-Forward
28 Vancouver Whitecaps FC £4.05m  
17
Theo Corbeanu
 
Centre-Forward
19 Wolverhampton Wanderers U23
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2 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

@lenny  @Obinna

Although Transfermarkt is a little off to say the least (Millar undervalued, Nelson overvalued is a great example) the fact that this Suriname squad has surpassed Honduras should scare us.

Everyone needs to give themselves "We are playing Honduras" level of expectations regarding this match.

 

For sure. The other thing is that Transfermarkt overinflates young players due to their potential. 

Suriname have a veteran group, so players like Donk (and Hutchinson to be fair) are better than their valuations suggest.

Aside from the nerves of beating them, I am genuinely curious to see how they look. They are good on paper, but looking at some of the individual player pages on wiki, it doesn't seem like some of these guys are playing much despite being at good clubs. 

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Interesting that our value is so high and it's missing our second most valuable player in David ($33 M). So our squad value is actually about $162M+.

 

Crazy that even without David and Davies we would still be #3 in CONCACAF too.

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4 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said:

Interesting that our value is so high and it's missing our second most valuable player in David ($33 M). So our squad value is actually about $162M+.

 

Crazy that even without David and Davies we would still be #3 in CONCACAF too.

I am assuming Leon Bailey is missing from the Jamaica valuation though. He's good for $30M I think.

If you add Bailey, would we still be ahead of Jamaica without Davies/David?

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41 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said:

Interesting that our value is so high and it's missing our second most valuable player in David ($33 M). So our squad value is actually about $162M+.

 

Crazy that even without David and Davies we would still be #3 in CONCACAF too.

I’m assuming the $129m includes David. I don’t see how we have $60m excluding AD and JD.

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3 minutes ago, Floortom said:

I’m assuming the $129m includes David. I don’t see how we have $60m excluding AD and JD.

Just estimating off the top of my head...

Larin 10, Osorio 6, Kaye 6, Cavallini 4.5, Eustaquio 4, Laryea 2.5, Piette 2, Johnston 2...that's 40ish

Hoilett 2, Arfield 2, Borjan 2, Crepeau 1.5, Buchanan 1, Nelson 1, St. Clair 1, Brault-Guillard 1, Miller 1, Guiterrez 1, Fraser 1, Cornelius 0.75, Hutchinson 0.5, Akindele 0.5, Wotherspoon 0.5...that's 16ish

So that's pretty close to 60M

 

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When I have time I really want to look more in depth at Suriname. Right now I see guys playing in second division Croatia, India, Saudi Arabia and Trinidad. Three guys in Israel and Another in Cyprus. Two more (Breda and Almere city) are in the Dutch second division. I’m not saying they aren’t good but just put it in perspective.   

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33 minutes ago, Alex said:

When I have time I really want to look more in depth at Suriname. Right now I see guys playing in second division Croatia, India, Saudi Arabia and Trinidad. Three guys in Israel and Another in Cyprus. Two more (Breda and Almere city) are in the Dutch second division. I’m not saying they aren’t good but just put it in perspective.   

They have a ~10 guys playing at clubs that would get them a look from Canada. I’m not saying all those guys would get called to a Canadian roster but they’re playing at high level clubs (relative to Canadian standards at least). More then a few are on the wrong side of 30 though.

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5 hours ago, Floortom said:

I’m assuming the $129m includes David. I don’t see how we have $60m excluding AD and JD.

Just look for yourself - it’s our 2021 squad, which doesn’t include David or even a value for Corbeanu. David and Davies alone are worth $115M together. If Millar and Corbeanu were valued appropriately we would be even higher.
 

Kaye and Osorio are the two most valuable domestics (Canada/ USA) in MLS. Larin is worth 12 M, Laryea is the most valuable RB in MLS. Our values are pretty high all around even excluding David/Davies. 

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1 hour ago, MtlMario said:

I really can't wait for this game to happen so people (some) can stop worrying about Suriname.

Even so how can you not worry especially because we made the mistake of underestimating Haiti back in 2019 and look at how that turned out. My point being we cannot take Suriname lightly not even for a second.

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20 hours ago, MtlMario said:

I really can't wait for this game to happen so people (some) can stop worrying about Suriname.

And I really can't wait for this game to happen so I don't have to read any more posts about debating transfer values.  

I'm looking forward to how we set up and play as a unit.  I'm curious about the CB pairing. 

We play to our potential and we move on.  

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I wonder how big of a factor age will be for Suriname?

3 our of 7 forwards 29 years and older, 3 out of 7 defenders 30 years and older, and all 6 of their midfielders are 30 and over. Most of them have just gone through a full European season, plus they have more travel than we do and a more difficult match up leading up to their game with us. 

I know it's a one-off, but maybe they'll unravel in the 2nd half as all those factors come into play. 

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Less than a week and a half away until our match. I mean knowing Herdman, when he unveils this squad for the Suriname match, we probably see most of our usuals but if we get new faces also for this match, then I can only imagine which new faces we see. Hopefully he just calls up the right guys or he just calls guys who are in form. We certainly do not need stars out of form and it ends up costing us the damn game.

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