baulderdash77 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 @Shway There isn’t any winger in CONCACAF like Angel Di Mara though. Also nobody else on our back line could hang with him. Davies really is our best defender, in addition to being our best attacker. I’m really on with Laryea at LB though. We have RB depth as well so our other FB’s are fine. @N1ckbr0wn I think your lineup is fine except that Cavalini will definitely be coming off the bench and not starting since he started last night. So move David up to striker and slide Osorio to AM and I’m reasonably sure that’s the lineup tomorrow or very close to it. Obinna, Shway, NVsoccer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavemTFC Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 38 minutes ago, N1ckbr0wn said: Based on what we’ve learnt about squad rotation I think this is how we line up: Personally I’d be way more comfortable with Adekugbe at his natural LB and Laryea at his natural RB for such a big game, not sure that’s going to happen though. as noted before it’s going to be a gamble throwing Kennedy at LCB for his first cap in such a big game, think he’s capable though and his pace will be a bonus. Larin wide because Herdman is talking about wanting to hide his tactics, I feel like our lineup is pretty obvious on paper so this would really be the only out of the ordinary thing that maybe would throw Suriname for a loop, specially since he was subbed in as a ST vs Aruba. Laryea at LB might also throw them off. And obviously, if Henry is hurt, Vitoria in. I expect exactly this, except maybe David as the #9 and Kaye/Spoon as the #10. Another thing, I noticed against Bermuda and Aruba Adekugbe usually stayed back and tucked in allowing Davies and Millar to stay high and wide, I wonder if Laryea will be asked to play similarly when we have the ball, though maybe as more of a midfielder than a defender like Adekugbe so Davies can stay wide, which would probably play to AD's strengths. Not sure if this is necessarily the right thing to do, but I think it's a deliberate pattern from Herdman in recent months. And I can see why he would want Laryea in basically the Zinchenko role vs Adekugbe who tbh is probably the worst on-the-ball option we have at fullback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) I am going to give an optimistic view on the potential Henry-Kennedy partnership for Tuesday. 1. Both have pace and should be able to snuff out counters or close down balls into the channels. Vitoria isolated in space would not be aconcrrn 2. Both are good in the air. Perhaps not as dominant as Vitoria, but better than Sturing, not that he would play anyway, but still... 3. Both have a lot to prove, which could help them rise to the challenge. 4. If this was pre determined, they will have gotten plenty of reps together by now, with a specific focus on gelling as soon as possible. It won't replicate game action, but they have had at least one session against the team we saw last night, by the sounds of it, and honestly going up against Miller-Cavallini-Hoilett in training is excellent prep. The plan is logical, I just hope it comes off if that is what we see. Edited June 6, 2021 by Obinna lamptern, JohnnyFranchise, apbsmith and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 any update on Hoilett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, king1010 said: any update on Hoilett? He travelled with the squad to Chicago so it can’t be too bad. Don’t think he would have been playing against Suriname regardless but hopefully he’s available if we make it through to the next round. king1010, trc2014 and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 think kennedy would have gotten minutes yesterday if he was to start tuesday..cant see them sending him out for his first game in such a game..with no sign of henry can see herdman going back to sturing-vitoria with davies on the left and brault on the right...kaye eustaquio piette...david cavallini and maybe a small surprise in buchanan..or larin at wing since he did well there in turkey but maybe will start on the bench as a fresh legs cf option in case a goal is needed johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Big_M said: think kennedy would have gotten minutes yesterday if he was to start tuesday..cant see them sending him out for his first game in such a game..with no sign of henry can see herdman going back to sturing-vitoria with davies on the left and brault on the right...kaye eustaquio piette...david cavallini and maybe a small surprise in buchanan..or larin at wing since he did well there in turkey but maybe will start on the bench as a fresh legs cf option in case a goal is needed If this all happens, then that’s some Jedi mind tricks from Herdman by getting the media to hype up the whole 2 separate squads angle. I don’t expect Kaye, Sturing, Buchanan, Cavallini, or ZBG to start. Edited June 7, 2021 by archer21 Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazzer Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Can someone please educate me a bit. If the idea holds true that we are doing two separate squads for Aruba and Suriname. Then what for Haiti/Nicaragua? Does the two legged tie against the likely better opponent (Haiti) just get the best 11 run out for both games? how does rotation look 4 days after Suriname? narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club Linesman Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I would guess that Herdman did this knowing our B team could handle Aruba and then the top team would be ready for Suriname and the games that follow. I would think there will be a few tweaks due to knocks and tired legs as necessary, but hopefully our studs will be playing the 270 minutes of their national lives and getting us to the Ocho. gator, johnyb, Floortom and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: The problem is simply that you can't keep Alphonso back and not ask him to attack. Vs the US in that second game he was a disaster, quite frankly, as he flew out of position and left us exposed. So don't even bother, that is the way I see it. Let the guys on the back line stay back, with no added pressure to attack, and let the attackers do their business without having to be the ones holding down a defensive position. That is fair - and probably the most convincing argument to leave him at LW rather than LB. better to have someone there that stays put and solely focuses on defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Grrr Edited June 7, 2021 by dyslexic nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Godamnit. Edited June 7, 2021 by dyslexic nam Unnamed Trialist and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 47 minutes ago, Big_M said: think kennedy would have gotten minutes yesterday if he was to start tuesday..cant see them sending him out for his first game in such a game..with no sign of henry can see herdman going back to sturing-vitoria with davies on the left and brault on the right...kaye eustaquio piette...david cavallini and maybe a small surprise in buchanan..or larin at wing since he did well there in turkey but maybe will start on the bench as a fresh legs cf option in case a goal is needed ZBG sub was an audible because of JH. Who knows who was the scheduled sub 5. Kennedy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, narduch said: I guess they are flying to Chicago later today? Yes 25-30 min of regeneration, recovery and flush out the lactic this AM. Followed by a travel later. Standard high performance, who ever they got in charge is on point. Edited June 7, 2021 by apbsmith Wrong information originally narduch and NVsoccer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 They’re in Chicago Obinna, Addona, apbsmith and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Atlantic said: They’re in Chicago Guess I need to start following all the players on Insta apbsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, nazzer said: Can someone please educate me a bit. If the idea holds true that we are doing two separate squads for Aruba and Suriname. Then what for Haiti/Nicaragua? Does the two legged tie against the likely better opponent (Haiti) just get the best 11 run out for both games? how does rotation look 4 days after Suriname? I think it’s probably get there first and worry about what’s to come afterwards. Suriname is going to be very tough and all the energy and planning goes into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBobsaget Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Obinna said: I think it’s probably get there first and worry about what’s to come afterwards. Suriname is going to be very tough and all the energy and planning goes into that. Suriname is a much greater threat as its only 1 game, they are a well balanced and professional squad. On paper they have more quality than Honduras and Panama with players featuring in squads from the Bundesliga, Turkey and Eredivisie. While the latter are mostly domestic and MLS these days. Over 2 games Canada is heavy favorites against any of these opponents but a one off at a neutral venue is nerve wracking. Can take some comfort in the fact that they haven't looked all that dominant, they beat Bermuda by a good margin but were gifted goals and converted on all their few chances. Against Bermuda Canada had 26 shots while Suriname had 10ish while playing in front of a home crowd against a weaker Bermuda squad. Suriname hasn't shown anything like what Canada flexed when they subbed on Davies, David and Larin. It was dominance where the opposition couldn't get the ball passed half. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) This is a one off match but the next round is a two match affair, correct?\ Edit: okay, I see that it is a two match affair vs either Haiti/Nicaragua. Edited June 7, 2021 by BearcatSA Obinna and Ivan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: This is a one off match but the next round is a two match affair, correct? Correct...supposed to be home and away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigorio Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shway said: Correct...supposed to be home and away. In our case “home” Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Shway said: Correct...supposed to be home and away. I have some big concerns about the CB situation. I just like the idea of having a familiar pairing in there. I would have preferred the first choice pairing starting against both Aruba and Surinam, and if an injury happens, then it's next man up. It just seems like too big a focus on squad rotation in an area of the pitch where there are some serious question marks for such a crucial one off match. Tyson M, costarg, gator and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: I have some big concerns about the CB situation. I just like the idea of having a familiar pairing in there. I would have preferred the first choice pairing starting against both Aruba and Surinam, and if an injury happens, then it's next man up. It just seems like too big a focus on squad rotation in an area of the pitch where there are some serious question marks for such a crucial one off match. Agreed. Completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 11 hours ago, nazzer said: Can someone please educate me a bit. If the idea holds true that we are doing two separate squads for Aruba and Suriname. Then what for Haiti/Nicaragua? Does the two legged tie against the likely better opponent (Haiti) just get the best 11 run out for both games? how does rotation look 4 days after Suriname? I assume we will put the "Suriname" team out for the first leg, then since we will be up by 4 or 5 goals after that match we can play the "Aruba" squad in the final leg. At least that's what I'm hoping will happen. apbsmith, narduch, dyslexic nam and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Everything has been building up to this moment of tomorrow. Tomorrow is match day and honestly I cannot wait. Surinamese fans have been talking too much and honestly it is about time to shut them up. Canada needs to step their game up. Kent, scullion44, apbsmith and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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