COQ | Match Thread: Mexico U24 vs Canada U24 | March 28 @ 9:00pm Eastern 6:00pm Pacific

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

We'll this will be tough. Later in the day after WCQ vs the Caymans.

9:00pm Eastern / 6:00pm Pacific

In the previous two cycles we lost to Mexico by two goals.

3-1 in 2012:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_CONCACAF_Men's_Olympic_Qualifying_Championship

and 2-0 in 2015:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_CONCACAF_Men's_Olympic_Qualifying_Championship

 

Having lost TMG to injury, having shipped Sturing to the senior team and with Cornelius possibly injured now too we are very weak at CB. This could actually be much worse than previous cycles. That Mexico side is incredibly strong and at least 12 of those guys have senior Mexican caps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_national_under-23_football_team

Edited March 26, 2021 by Olympique_de_Marseille

[LeoH037]

so who wants to start taking bets... how long can we keep it 0-0 for?

[JasonDias]

2 minutes ago, LeoH037 said:

so who wants to start taking bets... how long can we keep it 0-0 for?

Lol if Cornelius is good / fit 35 min if he isn't playing 5 min. 

[gator]

47 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

We'll this will be tough. Later in the day after WCQ vs the Caymans.

9:00pm Eastern / 6:00pm Pacific

In the previous two cycles we lost to Mexico by two goals.

3-1 in 2012:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_CONCACAF_Men's_Olympic_Qualifying_Championship

and 2-0 in 2015:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_CONCACAF_Men's_Olympic_Qualifying_Championship

 

Having lost TMG to injury, having shipped Sturing to the senior team and with Cornelius possibly injured now too we are very weak at CB. This could actually be much worse than previous cycles. That Mexico side is incredibly strong and at least 12 of those guys has senior Mexican caps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_national_under-23_football_team

[El Hombre]

7 hours ago, LeoH037 said:

so who wants to start taking bets... how long can we keep it 0-0 for?

I say four minutes because by the fifth we'll be up 1-0.

[dyslexic nam]

Tough, but you never know what will happen.  Could be a good time for a bit of good old fashioned CONCACAFing.  Maybe draw them into a couple of early yellows to make them more cautious or (fingers crossed) lead to a red card.  We will see. 

[MtlMario]

Yes you never know what can happen. Mexico could hit 14 goalposts and we score on our 1 shot.😎

[gator]

Richard Hastings needs to do a Zoom motivational talk before the match!🏆

[Addona]

23 minutes ago, MtlMario said:

Yes you never know what can happen. Mexico could hit 14 goalposts and we score on our 1 shot.😎

That' the spirit baby ... so you're telling me there's a chance!!!

[BearcatSA]

2 hours ago, Addona said:

That' the spirit baby ... so you're telling me there's a chance!!!

Someone needs to canadian-ize a meme for this speech:

 

[PopePouri]

Well....

https://www.espn.com/soccer/mexico-mex/story/4346980/fifa-threatens-sanctions-for-mexico-after-anti-gay-chant-reemerges

We could be playing the US after all.

Edited March 26, 2021 by PopePouri

[dyslexic nam]

2 minutes ago, PopePouri said:

Well....

https://www.espn.com/soccer/mexico-mex/story/4346980/fifa-threatens-sanctions-for-mexico-after-anti-gay-chant-reemerges

We could be playing the US after all.

I initially thought that you meant they would be DQ’d and I thought that would never happen.  But deducting 3 points to drop them to second isn’t entirely out of the question.  That would be amazing on two fronts.

1. It would give us an easier path.  
2. It would screw over Honduras. 

[Club Linesman]

Cmon Vic. Make it happen. 

[LeoH037]

2 hours ago, PopePouri said:

Well....

https://www.espn.com/soccer/mexico-mex/story/4346980/fifa-threatens-sanctions-for-mexico-after-anti-gay-chant-reemerges

We could be playing the US after all.

shiiit... don't give us more reason to hope 

[Gian-Luca]

Forfeiting the 3 points they earned against DR shouldn't be the punishment. FIFA needs to be consistent here and apply the same punishment that Haiti received for not meeting the COVID protocols in time. Have them start the game against Canada with just 10 men, including an outfield player in goal, a fat Burrito chef as a false 9 and have nobody on the bench. After 25 minutes they can go up to 11 men, but then are required to go back down to 10 by the end of the match.

Failing that, tell Mexico they have to field the group of portly fans who lost 15-0 to Haiti in a pre-tournament friendly against us. That might also be fair punishment.

[LeoH037]

55 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said:

Forfeiting the 3 points they earned against DR shouldn't be the punishment. FIFA needs to be consistent here and apply the same punishment that Haiti received for not meeting the COVID protocols in time. Have them start the game against Canada with just 10 men, including an outfield player in goal, a fat Burrito chef as a false 9 and have nobody on the bench. After 25 minutes they can go up to 11 men, but then are required to go back down to 10 by the end of the match.

Failing that, tell Mexico they have to field the group of portly fans who lost 15-0 to Haiti in a pre-tournament friendly against us. That might also be fair punishment.

honestly... even then I still think they beat us haha

[MtlMario]

Don't tell me for once luck is on our side. We'll see soon enough I guess.

[dyslexic nam]

I just looked for an update on the decision but don’t see anything yet.  They would probably have to make the decision fairly soon since it affects both of the semis tomorrow.   Teams need time tomorrow for specific opponents.  

[Floortom]

At most it will be a fine..we’re not going to be playing the US

[shorty]

Actually a fine and no fans allowed in the stadium would be a minor gain. Still a huge uphill battle of course but removing the home field advantage would be good. Plus it is a punishment that suits the crime. Fans don’t get to watch the home team qualify for the Olympics live. I agree that it’s unlikely they dock 3pts.
 

Happy to be surprised though. Mexican fans are friendly enough one in one in my experience but as a group are pretty dismissive of things like bans on racist and homophobic chants. Won’t change unless there is a real consequence. An empty stadium is a consequence, but not as unusual or powerful a statement in COVID times as it was previously. 

[dyslexic nam]

18 minutes ago, Floortom said:

At most it will be a fine..we’re not going to be playing the US

The only reason I think a points deduction could happen is because it wouldn’t necessarily stop Mexico from qualifying.  It would send a strong signal for future cases that FIFA takes the issue seriously without having a catastrophic impact on the region’s superpower.  Given that this isn’t the first time they have sanctioned Mexico about this specific behaviour I could see it happening.  

[gator]

Maybe they will misbehave and do the anti gay chants tomorrow and have to forfeit the match, if any action such as a fine is levied beforehand and they defy it there is a possibility!

[lamptern]

If Luxembourg can beat Ireland 1:0, why can't we grind out to a shootout?

[maccaliam]

Because this Mexican under 24 team would probably beat Ireland’s current squad too. 

[Bdog]

On 3/26/2021 at 2:44 PM, PopePouri said:

Well....

https://www.espn.com/soccer/mexico-mex/story/4346980/fifa-threatens-sanctions-for-mexico-after-anti-gay-chant-reemerges

We could be playing the US after all.

Without reading the article I'm assuming it's the Puto chant after goal kicks. I've seen a lot of Mexicans point out the word translates more to "bitch" or "asshole" when used in this context. I know a strange amount about Mexican swearing from my time on Xbox Live, there's another word that gets used instead for that slur. It CAN mean the F word depending on context, but there's a lot of black and white thinking these days so the Americans that usually are the ones getting offended about it aren't exactly using context.

To be fair, if supporters in English countries started saying "none offensive" things like Fuck You! after goal kicks, I can still see FIFA wanting people to stop since it probably gets them in trouble with sponsors haha.

Either way it's hilarious that FIFA is holding the 2022 world cup in a country where being gay is literally illegal and has a death penalty. Great job being hypocrites.