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This is incredible news for CPL. There are going to be clubs in the league every year that guarantee multiple matches against MLS and Liga MX competition. League competition will heat up for these spots and higher level talent will join the league to play on this stage. 

It's easy to see the next Davies or David playing CPL before their move to Europe with this format. If I'm a parent/agent and I know that my child/player is going to Europe when they turn 18 I'm wanting them playing day-in day-out in CPL, Vs Cup and CCL and being allowed to move on. If the same kid is in MLS they're likely finding minutes hard to come by and a transfer being made difficult. 

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Great for CPL teams to be able to showcase themselves against MLS and Liga MX teams in group stages, even if it'll be a minnow vs giants. More scouting and attention on CPL.

Also saves CPL teams a little bit of money on travel, instead of going down to Central America

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2 hours ago, Ivan said:

Why do you say that?

Because the man clearly doesn't know what he's doing. Making groups of 5? Absolute madness. Asking for West Germany vs Austria 1982 to happen again. Allowing for 11 of the 16 knockout round spots for teams from North America? UEFAesque. That's one worse than right now. They should have a maximum of 8. This isn't as good as it may seem

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As with most things in world soccer money makes the world go round.  Stadiums that hold 40 or 50000 put a lot more coins in Concacaf’s pocket.   So the more games involving Liga Mx and MLS the better for the bank.  And to be honest the best teams are in those leagues without doubt so there is some validity to giving them more spots at the moment.

Let’s just hope the increase in Concacaf revenue is used to make soccer better in the entire region and not to build Vic a mountain retreat in the Rockies or to make the rich leagues richer and widen the gap.

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1 hour ago, dnina10 said:

Because the man clearly doesn't know what he's doing. Making groups of 5? Absolute madness. Asking for West Germany vs Austria 1982 to happen again. Allowing for 11 of the 16 knockout round spots for teams from North America? UEFAesque. That's one worse than right now. They should have a maximum of 8. This isn't as good as it may seem

In each group of 5, top 2 advance, 3rd goes to the repechage, the two best 4th place teams also go to the repechage, the worst two 4th place teams are eliminated, 5th place is eliminated.  All of those scenarios have to be sorted in only 4 matches.  They've built a ton of scenarios into this to make dead rubbers and collusion unlikely even with one team idle on the last day.

Vic said in the Wheeler interview (at the 12:00 mark) the chance of dead games is only 4%.  

 

As for the 11 teams, this isn't necessarily all his choice.  Politics ( the desire of Liga MX and MLS) and business (TV networks and sponsors)  tend to get what they want regardless of the region.  Just look at the changes UEFA are about to announce which will reportedly include berths for historically large clubs that missed qualification.  

 

 

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I’m not a fan of not having each team home and away. That gives some clubs different advantages that could be solved by having each team home and away. The Europa League used to do this. 
 

But moreover, you can’t call it a Champions League and the then let so many teams in.  There’s the risk of having nearly half of Liga MZ, and a third of MLS. This is not a champions league, it’s a continental league.  Which is fine, don’t call it champions and then let in a (potentially) sub .500 team. 
 

I do like the regions though. It’s a lot of travel saved for some smaller clubs. And sorry, but Pacific FC is not a draw in Trinidad, so this is just fine by me. Same way the other direction.

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9 hours ago, narduch said:

It's totally bloated and convoluted. 

Plus too many teams from USA and Mexico for a tournament that is supposed to be the Champions League. 

 

I honestly don't give a shit about the US & Mexican teams.  I'm happy for the Canadian content, especially what this will do for the CPL.

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On 2/4/2021 at 10:45 PM, Watchmen said:

I actually think CONCACAF recognizing the Leagues Cup is an interesting aspect of it, as it's not something they control and sort of legitimizes a rival competition even while trying to ensure it's still below the Champions League.

It is interesting. But with up to 18 MLS/Liga MX teams making it to the Champions League every year ... and another 16 in Leagues Cup ... (with the 2020 and 2021 format) gosh, that could be 17 Liga MX (or 18 MLS) teams playing in post-season tournaments.

There's only 18 teams in Liga MX! I'd have thought this would simply have replaced Leagues Cup as well. 

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37 minutes ago, nfitz said:

It is interesting. But with up to 18 MLS/Liga MX teams making it to the Champions League every year ... and another 16 in Leagues Cup ... (with the 2020 and 2021 format) gosh, that could be 17 Liga MX (or 18 MLS) teams playing in post-season tournaments.

There's only 18 teams in Liga MX! I'd have thought this would simply have replaced Leagues Cup as well. 

The only reason for the existence of  Leagues Cup is it is owned and controlled by MLS and Liga MX as opposed to CONCACAF.  For fans like us, it seems like a simple choice to prioritize CCL and scrap Leagues Cup and Campeones Cup but to the club owners they view the world differently. The best analogy would be owning your own business as opposed to working for someone else.  

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