Terry_Canuck Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 A really solid signing with Arnone...I wish we still had him. Wonder why he can't stay at a club for more than a year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) Only 50% paid for their opening match tickets. This applies to other stuff: people on twitter complaining Canada matches are behind a paywall, people who get upset when Toronto gets Canada matches but then get upset about ticket prices when a match does come to their town. https://twitter.com/boatical/status/1426241758426509313 Edited August 13, 2021 by red card narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 ...and what percentage of the rest was $1 or some token amount like that? ^^^this has always been the conventional wisdom on why papering the house should be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) For AtO it's a gesture of general gratitude to the community and the fund's destination reinforces that. Everyone understands this, including the vast majority of more committed fans. But are they arguing that too few with freebie tickets will convert to season tickets? And bickering about possible amounts? Everyone going to an Atlético match, even paying a dollar, is already a potential future fan, I think that'll be clear today. I also accept that hoping for a result for them, despite being neutral, makes sense on the level of building for the future. Edited August 14, 2021 by Unnamed Trialist narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Why would somebody go out of their way to obtain the tickets through ticketmaster and then not show up? If you did that work you are interested in attending. Personally think this was a good marketing ploy by the club. Get some positive buzz for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) The danger is you build a culture where people simply wait for the freebie discount coupon they know will be coming for the games the local club want to hype up as a big event or through Fury style youth soccer group sales to watch a few soccer games each summer without ever really paying for it. Eventually the owners tend to get fed up of covering the losses needed to prop up their Potemkin village operation and pull the plug when they see no end to it due to the low conversion rate described. Calgary overdid it a bit at the top end of the price range but accepting the optics of smallish crowds that do pay and generating large gate receipts at modest capacity the few times there is wider interest is arguably the better way to go long term in building a culture where the product always has a realistic pricetag attached to it so you can slowly build towards break even. Edited August 14, 2021 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 39 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: The danger is you build a culture where people simply wait for the freebie discount coupon they know will be coming for the games the local club want to hype up as a big event or through Fury style youth soccer group sales to watch a few soccer games each summer without ever really paying for it. Eventually the owners tend to get fed up of covering the losses needed to prop up their Potemkin village operation and pull the plug when they see no end to it due to the low conversion rate described. Calgary overdid it a bit at the top end of the price range but accepting the optics of smallish crowds that do pay and generating large gate receipts at modest capacity the few times there is wider interest is arguably the better way to go long term in building a culture where the product always has a realistic pricetag attached to it and you slowly build towards break even. A "danger" for one match, a home opener, 500 days later than originally planned? In any case by arguing for "building" up, you are justifying what they are doing. jonovision and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 How do you know it is only going to be for one match? If the ownership group involved isn't comfortable with the optics of what the actual paid numbers are going to wind up being that doesn't tend to be a one off. CanPL is interesting to watch unfold on this because there appear to be very different mentalities on how to approach this issue in the different cities. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlugan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: How do you know it is only going to be for one match? If the ownership group involved isn't comfortable with the optics of what the actual paid numbers are going to wind up being that doesn't tend to be a one off. CanPL is interesting to watch unfold on this because there appear to be very different mentalities on how to approach this issue in the different cities. How do you know it's not? Or why do you assume it won't be? If you are so concerned with the financial well being of the CPL clubs why don't you support one...once...by actually going to a game? Oh right...now I remember...it doesn't help your case if you actually support the league instead of shitting on it. I'll skip the usual insult...this time. Let's see if you answer me for a change or just keep hiding. Cblake and Unnamed Trialist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senorpopps Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Sorry to be off topic, but with Arnone signing for Atletico Ottawa and Fisk signing for Cavalry, does that make them the only players to have played for 3 CPL clubs? toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) A civil war era Spanish Republican flag? That would probably be OK among Rayo Vallecano fans in Madrid but might get a mixed reception from an Atletico crowd? https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-everything-you-know-about-madrid-derby-might-be-wrong Edited August 15, 2021 by Ozzie_the_parrot Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: A civil war era Spanish Republican flag? That would probably be OK among Rayo Vallecano fans in Madrid but might get a mixed reception from an Atletico crowd? https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-everything-you-know-about-madrid-derby-might-be-wrong Actually, it's not that simple. There are maybe only 5-6 teams in LaLiga where it'd be less probable. Most teams have had supporter groups both on the left and the right, often confronted. Republicanism (rejection of hereditary heads of state) is on the rise because of little details like resigned King Juan Carlos I in exile for the last year to escape justice. The institution is terribly weak. I could go through it team by team but the point is that Atleti is also a team from Madrid south, more working class and far less establishment than El Real. That said, it could be a guy from Canada doing grad studies on Spanish republicanism, no way of knowing. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Although it will likely not be with Atletico Madrid, Alberto Soto has a bright future. His G/A rate might not show it yet but he's looked very good in every game so far IMO. The skill is evident but I think he tracks back very well and provides support well in the buildup despite being a very attacking minded midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-g-williams Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Did anyone catch the attendance tonight? It seemed like a solid crowd, but I didn't hear them announce the final figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, m-g-williams said: Did anyone catch the attendance tonight? It seemed like a solid crowd, but I didn't hear them announce the final figure. I didn’t hear them announcing an attendance but for a midweek evening, it seemed rather healthy and loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-g-williams Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Agreed. Great atmosphere in the stands, and pretty happy with how the Bytown Boys and CCSG kept at it tonight. Also impressed with how many people already have/were lining up to buy merch. It feels good to be back. youllneverwalkalone and Cheeta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I don’t post in this section often but I love being back and had a great time tonight. Mista was in the box behind me. Opened the door and absolutely torched Uche’s behaviour coming off. Has to be the most passionate coach, no one in the seats around me knew who he was and kept looking around anytime he reacted. Never felt so great being back in a stadium! JamboAl and Bison44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Yeah, I didn't see what the reason was for Uche being yanked so early in the match. Regardless, he was not a happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) The Td staff kept on saying it was around 2000. Lots of people were buying jerseys and hats, great to see. Also did any notice that mista was not on field or did I miss something ? Edited August 19, 2021 by SpecialK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, jordan said: I don’t post in this section often but I love being back and had a great time tonight. Mista was in the box behind me. Opened the door and absolutely torched Uche’s behaviour coming off. Has to be the most passionate coach, no one in the seats around me knew who he was and kept looking around anytime he reacted. Never felt so great being back in a stadium! That is a lot of dead space between the touchline and the first row of seats. 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 hours ago, SpecialK said: The Td staff kept on saying it was around 2000. Lots of people were buying jerseys and hats, great to see. Also did any notice that mista was not on field or did I miss something ? Looks like a reasonable estimate from the picture above and fan video clips that are easy to find on twitter through the #CanPL hashtag. Lots of empty seats that would need to be mainly filled to be in the 4000+ range. Not surprised they didn't announce it because although that's not disastrous by any stretch of the imagination it's not particularly encouraging either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I have heard around 2700. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ingham Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Going to Ottawa this Wednesday for our game there. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingham Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 What is the Ottawa supporters group and where can I meet them pre-game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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