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Totally need to respect all our opponents and would take 4 1-0s cause that would get us through.  But if we are afraid of Suriname, then we might as well not even bother with playing Mexico.

This is the perfect progression for us. If we can't beat Suriname or best Haiti over two legs we don't deserve the Oct or have much chance of doing well in it.  This is what we have been working

If this was a home and away I wouldn't be concerned at all. We should beat Suriname 8 out of 10 games, but a one off in CONCACAF with this much on the line, scares the shit out of me. I'm definitely m

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They could probably win two of the groups - El Salvador, Trinidad and compete against Curacao and Panama. They could easily be better than Curacao, at least in terms of player quality/club pedigree.  

I think Curacao 2019 was a little overrated. Curacao have 2 championships players who have been down relative to 2019. Their EPL guy never really played in the EPL and is on Unattached United right now. They have a guy who has had a little bit of success in Portugal, and is currently in the second tier there. Then they have a lot of Dutch players at places like Waalwijk and also Middle Eastern leagues. Pretty impressive for a little island. But not a big wow, or anything.

If they get Riedewald (he's not eligible, yet, correct?), then Donk, Riedewald, and Becker would be better than Martina, Bacuna, Bacuna. After that, Suriname's quality is basically below average Eredivisie. But that's probably than Curacao's. 

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3 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said:

Why would Riedewald join Suriname? He's only 24 with 3 Dutch caps to his name - no chance he switches IMO. He might use them to leverage a Dutch call up but it would be crazy for him to switch. 

It all depends on how willing he is to wait out his time. Between Gini, De Jong, Klassen, Van De Beek, Propper, Fer andthey even got some you guys getting called up.

Unless you’ve moved to a world class club, it seems the Dutch rate the guys at their local clubs (AZ, Ajax, Feynoord) over a club like Crystal Palace.

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58 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said:

Why would Riedewald join Suriname? He's only 24 with 3 Dutch caps to his name - no chance he switches IMO. He might use them to leverage a Dutch call up but it would be crazy for him to switch. 

No chance that he'll be selected again. His previous caps were ages ago when he was more rated as a defender than midfielder. Why not take the opportunity now and enjoy playing with Suriname instead of waiting years and miss a chance of a World Cup for that 1% chance?

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7 minutes ago, SCF08 said:

No chance that he'll be selected again. His previous caps were ages ago when he was more rated as a defender than midfielder. Why not take the opportunity now and enjoy playing with Suriname instead of waiting years and miss a chance of a World Cup for that 1% chance?

I'd say his chances of playing for Netherlands at a World Cup are still better than Suriname making the World Cup. That chance has to be less than 1%. If he's going to switch it would make sense to wait until Suriname is in the Octagon at least.  

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-------------------- Warner Hahn --------------------

Dankerlui ----- Ryan Donk --- Leeuwin ----- Miquel Nelom ---

(Kelvin Leerdam-Shaquille Pinas-Myenty Abena)

--------------- Dion Malone --- Mitchell Donald -----

(Ryan Koolwijk-Comvalius-Roscello Vlijter)


--- Sheraldo Becker ----- Chery ----- Diego Biseswar ---

(Roland Alberg -Gleofilo Vlijter)

-------------------- Jozefzoon --------------------

(Nigel Hasselbaink)

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For whatever it’s worth Suriname is not on the Netherlands “safe country” list where you can travel to and from freely. 
 

Safe countries within the Kingdom of the Netherlands

If you live in the Caribbean part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the EU travel ban does not apply to you.

You do not need to have a negative test result for COVID-19 if you are coming from:

  • Aruba
  • Bonaire
  • Curacao
  • St Maarten
  • Saba
  • St Eustatius

Safe countries outside the EU/Schengen area

  • Australia
  • New Zealand
  • Rwanda
  • Singapore
  • South Korea
  • Thailand

https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/eu-list-of-safe-countries

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1 hour ago, Alex said:

For whatever it’s worth Suriname is not on the Netherlands “safe country” list where you can travel to and from freely. 
 

Safe countries within the Kingdom of the Netherlands

If you live in the Caribbean part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the EU travel ban does not apply to you.

You do not need to have a negative test result for COVID-19 if you are coming from:

  • Aruba
  • Bonaire
  • Curacao
  • St Maarten
  • Saba
  • St Eustatius

Safe countries outside the EU/Schengen area

  • Australia
  • New Zealand
  • Rwanda
  • Singapore
  • South Korea
  • Thailand

https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/eu-list-of-safe-countries

I wonder if there will be a push to skip this window. 

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8 hours ago, Alex said:

For whatever it’s worth Suriname is not on the Netherlands “safe country” list where you can travel to and from freely. 
 

Safe countries within the Kingdom of the Netherlands

If you live in the Caribbean part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the EU travel ban does not apply to you.

You do not need to have a negative test result for COVID-19 if you are coming from:

  • Aruba
  • Bonaire
  • Curacao
  • St Maarten
  • Saba
  • St Eustatius

Safe countries outside the EU/Schengen area

  • Australia
  • New Zealand
  • Rwanda
  • Singapore
  • South Korea
  • Thailand

https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/eu-list-of-safe-countries

I'm surprised Bonaire isn't getting harder. Was checking them out and they're still pretty soft. Their roster must be getting up there in age

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Just now, Dominic94 said:

I saw that Berhalter is a dual and could be recruited for them. (Sebastian)

Oh ha. Well that'd be awkward given his dad is the USMNT coach.

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Just now, Dominic94 said:

I saw that Berhalter is a dual and could be recruited for them. (Sebastian)

Yea okay lol.....where did you see that?
Unless he has a desire to play international ball right away...but I highly doubt he makes that commitment at 19yo.

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17 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

Here is their squad:

 

Think Becker and Riedewald are the only two rumoured names that didn’t it make it to the squad (never thought the latter was likely though).

Clearly this is a huge improvement from what they would have normally fielded. They should be better than Bermuda in our Group. We should still beat them but they are no minnow anymore.

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