youllneverwalkalone Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 30 matches left. That's still a big opportunity. Wednesday is a big club with pressure to promote. Isn't this exactly the adversity that Wolves would like him to overcome? That's what it will take to play in the Premier League. Going out to D2 France or whatever isn't the answer. Work hard in training and break into the first team son. CanadaFan123, narduch, El Hombre and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, youllneverwalkalone said: 30 matches left. That's still a big opportunity. Wednesday is a big club with pressure to promote. Isn't this exactly the adversity that Wolves would like him to overcome? That's what it will take to play in the Premier League. Going out to D2 France or whatever isn't the answer. Work hard in training and break into the first team son. Yeah that's a good point. I can imagine Wolves are disappointed he hasn't played more yet, but I am not sure they'd be upset at Wednesday. Unless there is a clause in place for x number of games, it's squarely up to Corbeanu for Corbeanu to get minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Marc Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 While I agree that saying anything is a bad idea, I think Corbeanu is right to question the move if it was in fact decided by Wolves. The pressure to promote is absolutely existential for a teetering club like Wednesday. There was never any room for error in a move like this. Moore doesn't have the flex to blood in an unproven kid. that his club doesn't own. Unless Wednesday were using loans to stocking up on backup subsidized players FM-style, this move never made sense. Of course, all is not lost. He still has 2/3 of a season to prove his worth. Hopefully he doesn't slink back to reserve football in January, his opportunity may come later than he'd like. johnyb and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Loans are about working through being a real professional as much as playing. League one in a dressing room fighting with players who’s livelihood is on the line is much different from u23s football. trust me I’m talking from experience (First loan at Kilmanock!!) This is about growth and maturing. Fighting for your place and taking your Chance. This is his first loan and I think we need to be patient with it. He needs to do the dirty not glamourous things off the ball. The tracking back and staying in shape and following a game plan and more important doing that in training. All the step overs and flair is great but being a proper pro is about all the other things. Darren Moore has to trust him and Theo has to hve the maturity to walk in Darren’s office and ask him what he needs to do to play more(that’s the advice I gave Liam) … Wolves like all clubs send players out to grow and be better players when they return… Theo is a very talented player there no doubt about that but what he does with it is up to him. Let’s hope he puts his head down and gets going nothing is guaranteed except death and taxes… plying time is earned not given…Liams time in the SPFL and league 1 helped him immensely… just mho Edited October 19, 2021 by spitfire Obinna, Corazon, CanadaFan123 and 26 others 25 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I think everyone is to blame but can only make the most of it. The Real Marc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 My Owls contact says, "there is always one player that the fans love but the manager hates, and this year that player is Theo." He added that, "Honestly, if he had the chance I think he'd take it. I can understand why he's upset, but our results have been poor since mid-September, and an 18 year old rookie, rightly or wrongly, may not be seen as the answer." masster, johnyb and frmr 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 15 hours ago, nolando said: My Owls contact says, "there is always one player that the fans love but the manager hates, and this year that player is Theo." He added that, "Honestly, if he had the chance I think he'd take it. I can understand why he's upset, but our results have been poor since mid-September, and an 18 year old rookie, rightly or wrongly, may not be seen as the answer." These old adages come to mind: Marv Levy quote: "If a coach starts listening to the fans, he's going to wind up sitting next to them." Everyone's favourite player is the backup goalie Floortom, johnyb, Watchmen and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe MacCarthy said: These old adages come to mind: Marv Levy quote: "If a coach starts listening to the fans, he's going to wind up sitting next to them." Everyone's favourite player is the backup goalie As crazy as it sounds why not a loan to the MLS, if he comes here and does a Tajon Buchanan and gets a lot of playing time I think it can also help in his development. Yes I agree playing in these lower leagues over there can really toughen you up and make you a better player . But an MLS loan is not such a bad thing either looking how it has helped with guys like Davies, Larin and now Buchanan who hopefully can continue his great play in Europe when he gets there. grigorio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, SoccMan said: As crazy as it sounds why not a loan to the MLS, if he comes here and does a Tajon Buchanan and gets a lot of playing time I think it can also help in his development. Yes I agree playing in these lower leagues over there can really toughen you up and make you a better player . But an MLS loan is not such a bad thing either looking how it has helped with guys like Davies, Larin and now Buchanan who hopefully can continue his great play in Europe when he gets there. I thought the same thing. MLS isn’t some shitty league where experience and ability counts for nothing. If you get solid playing time here, you will be performing at a level that hones your craft. And if you can excel here in NA, you will show that you are ready for the higher tiers of European leagues. Grandbloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: I thought the same thing. MLS isn’t some shitty league where experience and ability counts for nothing. If you get solid playing time here, you will be performing at a level that hones your craft. And if you can excel here in NA, you will show that you are ready for the higher tiers of European leagues. I'm watching Salzburg v Wolfsburg, and if John Brooks is a starting calibre CL centre back what does that make Miles Robinson, a guy who is 10x better? (not to mention Aaronson is starting in this one, too). The quality that NCAA/MLS is pumping out is fantastic. El Hombre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgkiss Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 In my opinion, Brooks is not a good measuring stick - I have not seen many well played matches by him... ever. It feels like the best thing about American players is the agents that represent them. I think most of the American players are average at best. Northvansteve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, hodgkiss said: In my opinion, Brooks is not a good measuring stick - I have not seen many well played matches by him... ever. It feels like the best thing about American players is the agents that represent them. I think most of the American players are average at best. I don't disagree, I'm just saying that he's an American centre back who is playing heavy minutes for a team in the CL, and he's definitely not the best American centre back out there. The gap is not as big as some people think -- we are seeing MLS guys go into good European clubs and becoming important contributors right away El Hombre, Club Linesman and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, El Diego said: I'm watching Salzburg v Wolfsburg, and if John Brooks is a starting calibre CL centre back what does that make Miles Robinson, a guy who is 10x better? (not to mention Aaronson is starting in this one, too). The quality that NCAA/MLS is pumping out is fantastic. Brooks performance just deteriorated this season. He was a regular starter last year but now is on the bench for various matches. If he continues to play like he has, he won't be at Wolfsburg next season. Likewise, with the US, pre Octo, he was considered a locked-in starter by their fan base. After Long's injury, everyone was thankful for Brooks. But after his bad performance in the first window and his shambolic performance vs Lille, most have already moved on to the next new shiny candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) Manager Darren Moore with lots to say on Theo: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/darren-moore-responds-to-reports-theo-corbeanu-will-be-recalled-to-wolverhampton-wanderers-3429761 Edited October 22, 2021 by nolando johnyb, WestHamCanadianinOxford, canuckgbp and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, nolando said: Manager Darren Moore with lots to say on Theo: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/darren-moore-responds-to-reports-theo-corbeanu-will-be-recalled-to-wolverhampton-wanderers-3429761 That's a whole lot of words to say he's improving and when he's ready to play he'll play. Nice to read, nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Looks like he subbed on in the 82 minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/20/2021 at 1:00 PM, SoccMan said: As crazy as it sounds why not a loan to the MLS, if he comes here and does a Tajon Buchanan and gets a lot of playing time I think it can also help in his development. Yes I agree playing in these lower leagues over there can really toughen you up and make you a better player . But an MLS loan is not such a bad thing either looking how it has helped with guys like Davies, Larin and now Buchanan who hopefully can continue his great play in Europe when he gets there. At least in MLS landing on a bad team doesn’t mean relegation, sending managers scrambling for steely vets to eek out a few points to stay up and perpetuating a treadmill to nowhere for many. Not at all a bad suggestion but with the MLS season nearly over maybe a few other options will arise in the next window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Did anyone see how he did in his +8 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, Obinna said: Did anyone see how he did in his +8 minutes? didn’t watch but reviews on Twitter and the SWFC forum are all quite good. Apparently he was direct, positive and created a few good opportunities. He started on the left and switched to the right. they all want to see more of Corbeanu at this point - he may get a start soon with how poor Sheffield have been Approve My Account Pls, NVsoccer, Obinna and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 His first start rkomar, gator, dyslexic nam and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Floortom said: His first start Hope he friggin kills it. Good luck kid. Ruffian and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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