T_Bison Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, toontownman said: Signed! https://canpl.ca/article/valour-fc-signs-canadian-youth-international-shaan-hundal Is it wrong that I'm much more excited about the attackers this year than last year? toontownman and Bison44 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, T_Bison said: Is it wrong that I'm much more excited about the attackers this year than last year? The attackers last year were a New Zealand league semi-pro and an Italian in semi-retirement, both of whom couldn't run; and a teenager who turned out to be our most consistent scorer. So no, your relative excitement is not misplaced. Edited July 17, 2020 by jonovision yomurphy1 and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Its ok to be excited. Even if later down the road they kill your dreams....now we just need a Peruzza loan and then we'll be off and running. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top cheese Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, jonovision said: The attackers last year were a New Zealand league semi-pro and an Italian in semi-retirement, both of whom couldn't run; and a teenager who turned out to be our most consistent scorer. So no, your relative excitement is not misplaced. Hoyle was aweful better mmsl players. Pallucci was 36 and couldn’t keep up. Musse and artardo has no business as Pros. I like the additions they’ve made hopefully they’ll give waters some minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, T_Bison said: Is it wrong that I'm much more excited about the attackers this year than last year? We'll see. I mean that one way or the other I HOPE we'll see, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, top cheese said: Hoyle was aweful better mmsl players. Pallucci was 36 and couldn’t keep up. Musse and artardo has no business as Pros. I like the additions they’ve made hopefully they’ll give waters some minutes The coming years will be telling on with the highlighted point, but otherwise I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top cheese Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, jonovision said: The coming years will be telling on with the highlighted point, but otherwise I agree. Well musse doesn’t have a contract. Won’t be hearing much about artardo I’d say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 11 hours ago, top cheese said: Hoyle was aweful better mmsl players. Pallucci was 36 and couldn’t keep up. Musse and artardo has no business as Pros. I like the additions they’ve made hopefully they’ll give waters some minutes Lofty would be rolling in his CSN grave. Attardo was widely regarded as one of the brightest young striking prospects in the CPL last season. Assuming thats who you are referring too. Musse disappointed for sure. Talent there but couldn't put it all together and make an impact. Bison44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Chakib Hocine signs with the Valour, re-watched one of the HFX games this winter and he looked totally lost,not sure if he was being played out of position. https://canpl.ca/article/valour-fc-inks-former-hfx-wanderers-fc-defender-chakib-hocine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grande Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Former Valour player Josip Golubar has moved from Austria's SV Neuberg to NK Varteks in Croatia's 3rd tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top cheese Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 12:10 AM, toontownman said: Lofty would be rolling in his CSN grave. Attardo was widely regarded as one of the brightest young striking prospects in the CPL last season. Assuming thats who you are referring too. Musse disappointed for sure. Talent there but couldn't put it all together and make an impact. If he was “bright” why isn’t he considered for ynt or have mls teams chomping at the big to get his signature? im excited to see this new group perform. But I do think Gale is on the hot seat for 21/22. After going with Local players who were not good enough to go professional or overestimating the quality of his past ynt players. and some skeptical international Signings. If he doesn’t get a better performance out of a more experienced group in PEI he likely won’t get a third chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Bison Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, top cheese said: im excited to see this new group perform. But I do think Gale is on the hot seat for 21/22. After going with Local players who were not good enough to go professional or overestimating the quality of his past ynt players. and some skeptical international Signings. If he doesn’t get a better performance out of a more experienced group in PEI he likely won’t get a third chance. I'm excited to see this group perform as well, and I think this short tournament makes the rebuild a bit of a crap shoot with systems, players who haven't played together much, etc. That being said, the talent should be there to do some damage and be significantly better than last year. If Valour is buried at the bottom of the table then Gale is probably gone. If they are competitive in that 4/5 zone and it would need to be something cultural that gets him let go. If he makes the second stage he's safe (as well I think he should be). johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 5 hours ago, top cheese said: If he was “bright” why isn’t he considered for ynt or have mls teams chomping at the big to get his signature? Best write off Campbell and Ongaro and every other promising youngster in the league that didn't get bought by an MLS club then. Can't tell you why he hasn't been involved in the youth national set up, certainly can't tell you whether he has been considered for it, likely no-one here could, he might have been. We will also never know if he was considered for the Olympic team, his name certainly cropped up in peoples suggestions but there is so much competition even the above two names, after one pro season bright prospect or not there are others with greater pro experience and playing level in the U23 age bracket. I am just basing the bright prospect label off what I watched, what pundits were universally saying, what the league said of him and the fact he has earned a move abroad. I thought the praise and label was pretty universal? Maybe not from Valour fans anymore after he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, T_Bison said: I'm excited to see this group perform as well, and I think this short tournament makes the rebuild a bit of a crap shoot with systems, players who haven't played together much, etc. That being said, the talent should be there to do some damage and be significantly better than last year. If Valour is buried at the bottom of the table then Gale is probably gone. If they are competitive in that 4/5 zone and it would need to be something cultural that gets him let go. If he makes the second stage he's safe (as well I think he should be). It was had to part ways with managers without club ownerships openly admitting the person they chose to build the club longterm, arguably their most important hire was botched. Especially when he is Canadian. Pacific had a few outs and to their credit held their hands up. At the end of the day all the clubs put faith in their managers for the longterm and should be sticking to that unless there are major personal clashes and professionalism issues. In any other league Gale would have likely been replaced agree he will be if they finish last again. I hope they get it together but Gale didn't seem to get it right at all, even with the advisory role of John Peacock and familiar playing staff. There is so much potential in Winnipeg to grow what is already a great fanbase. I hope it comes together for the club. Edited July 30, 2020 by toontownman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Its not even finishing last. Its when the players cant wait to get out of town and they are talking about dysfunctional dressing rooms, thats what really sticks in my craw. You just never know how a guy will take to handling a team of professional men over a season...when he has mainly been working with kids in isolated camps and tournies. Maybe he isnt cut out for it. But If we get the same toxic dressing room stuff after this partial season they'll have no choice. Cheeta, T_Bison and toontownman 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top cheese Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I think the toxic dressing room was more about a Manitoba Sport culture then it was gales inability to Handle men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 What would be so bad about manitoba sport culture that it would cause a mass exodus of players to all corners of the CPL? Getting a team of teenagers together for a U-17 2 week camp and a 3 game tournie isnt the same as dealing with professional men and getting them to pull together as a team over an entire season. Its the same as some good college coaches (in many sports) never make the transition to pro. They are different animals and being successful in one doesnt always translate to success in the other. Winnipeg Fury and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 18 hours ago, Bison44 said: Its not even finishing last. Its when the players cant wait to get out of town and they are talking about dysfunctional dressing rooms, thats what really sticks in my craw. You just never know how a guy will take to handling a team of professional men over a season...when he has mainly been working with kids in isolated camps and tournies. Maybe he isnt cut out for it. But If we get the same toxic dressing room stuff after this partial season they'll have no choice. Met the man and personally like him, but watching those interviews after a loss was painful. Always blamed the refs, weather and bad luck and never gave credit to the other team. Comes across as a whiner and that is not a trait well suited for professional coaches. Winnipeg Fury and Cheeta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I really am pulling for Gale. I hope the whining, blaming etc was just being unused to daily pressure and scrutiny from the press all summer long. johnyb and Winnipeg Fury 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Seeing his style and results with the Canadian U20 team I was not shocked at all he struggled with Valour. It's telling he brought so many guys he coached in the first year and they bolted after one year. johnyb and NVsoccer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Is Waters still in camp? If he doesn't sign Ottawa should try and sign him since they don't even have enough players to use all five subs with two of their intls out of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Confirmed 2 loans from TFC dyslexic nam, Ivan and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 The dark horses. You heard it hear first. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Agree. Except I thought that last year lol johnyb and Bison44 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 If MLS is back taught us anything is that we have no clue what will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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