WestHamCanadianinOxford 1,110 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Shame. Still get my support against Spurs. Shway 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kadenge 2,098 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, jordan said: Yes, would still require a switch. So had we played a friendly and called him up, the paper work for the switch would have had to have been in place? This makes his assertion of playing for the team that calls him up first a bit dubious no? A bit like Tomori. Herdman has done very well in getting players into our program ( Eustaquio, Tabla, Brym, Bassong etc) and would have made a good case to Yankov I have no doubt. I get the feeling he wanted to play for Bulgaria. Time to refocus on the lads that are proud to wear our shirt.. there is more talent coming up the pipeline right here in Canada. Edited October 7, 2020 by Kadenge dyslexic nam, Northvansteve, MtlMario and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Marc 457 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 10/1/2020 at 8:10 AM, VinceA said: I believe in an interview he mentioned he was going to finish his U21 Euro qualifying commitments because he didn't want to just abandon his team and teammates in the middle of qualification. Lolololololol thought this sounded naive even when it was posted ps - not a personal comment in any way - we got schooled by a 20 year old Shway, hamiltonfan and Obinna 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kadenge 2,098 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, The Real Marc said: Lolololololol thought this sounded naive even when it was posted ps - not a personal comment in any way - we got schooled by a 20 year old To be fair Eustaquio also wanted to complete his Euro U21 with Portugal before he joined up. Obinna 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Unnamed Trialist 5,780 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, LeoH037 said: Im more pointing out how ridiculous it was for Wheeler to grandstand publicly share all the "insider knowledge" (i.e. speculation) he had, irrespective of what Yankov's decision was. As I posted when I heard it, the moment Wheeler says what he does about Akinola, you know the rest is unreliable. That careless optimism about a guy fully in the US system for years, it was not believable. Which meant for me the rest was not either. Then, as we did hear the report on Yankov and call-ups, all that happened was that he followed through. Canada did not even make the choice hard for him. As for Bulgaria, however much you want to diss them, they are there, and there is no reason why their football can't rise again, they certainly have the tradition and the passion. If he feels it, as he probably does on the team he is, then all power to him. Obinna, johnyb and The Real Marc 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MtlMario 1,041 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Does this mean we have to find a name for him if he really never plays for us? 😀 Link to post Share on other sites
jordan 3,387 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 So I guess I wonder if fifa rules actually allow him to turn down a call? Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerack 258 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 It’s concerning that he’s in the squad but I doubt he plays . He’s coming in for an Injured player with zero caps but has been involved in the national team since 2018 . I’m assuming they are just taking a closer look, this happened with Akindele with the US so let’s just hope he doesn’t get cap tied johnyb 1 Link to post Share on other sites
costarg 640 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, Bikerack said: It’s concerning that he’s in the squad but I doubt he plays . He’s coming in for an Injured player with zero caps but has been involved in the national team since 2018 . I’m assuming they are just taking a closer look, this happened with Akindele with the US so let’s just hope he doesn’t get cap tied But they'd be silly and fools to not give him 2 minutes at the end of the match, regardless of the score and situation. You're locking down solid young talent. There is no way they don't pull a Southgate/Tomori. toontownman, hamiltonfan and johnyb 3 Link to post Share on other sites
costarg 640 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Pisses me off and just brought me down to earth. After Tabla, Davies, David, Eustaquio, Arfield... I was actually getting cocky thinking the dark days were behind us and we (Herdman) could actually attract the dual-nationals regularly. Edited October 8, 2020 by costarg toontownman 1 Link to post Share on other sites
nolando 1,395 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, MtlMario said: Does this mean we have to find a name for him if he really never plays for us? 😀 Wankov, definitely. Really, was there going to be any other option? An Observer, Strait Red, apbsmith and 10 others 5 1 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jordan 3,387 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 He’s worn the red and white before, he was mentioned last week in an update, not called up since u15’s. At what point are we required to have an actual path from the youths to MNT, I’m not talking a camp once per year TOcanadafan, Ol'Bill and Nate3322 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 5,216 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 So has Ludogorets just gone from my most loved Bulgarian team to my most hated Bulgarian team or do I have to wait for him to be cap tied first? I need some guidance. N1ckbr0wn and dyslexic nam 2 Link to post Share on other sites
jordan 3,387 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kent said: So has Ludogorets just gone from my most loved Bulgarian team to my most hated Bulgarian team or do I have to wait for him to be cap tied first? I need some guidance. They have Kael Dimitrov there, it could get worse in 5 years when he’s not capped by us Link to post Share on other sites
TOcanadafan 202 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: As for Bulgaria, however much you want to diss them, they are there, and there is no reason why their football can't rise again, they certainly have the tradition and the passion. If he feels it, as he probably does on the team he is, then all power to him. Bulgaria is pretty piss poor at the moment, and has been for some time - not qualifying for a major tournament in 16 years. I’m sure he’s closer to becoming an important player to their senior program than he is to Canada’s which may be a factor. He probably has gotten a lot of pressure from his club team to commit to Bulgaria and maybe even some assurances that he will feature - with many of these second tier national leagues, the top club teams are intertwined with the National federation, basically dictating who gets called up and who plays. johnyb 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 5,216 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 For the people talking about how long it has been since Bulgaria made it to a tournament, they are 2 wins away from the 2021 Euros (if I understand correctly. The system seems more complicated than any competition I have seen before). Also, maybe I am being pedantic, but I cringe every time I see someone mention how Canada is “guaranteed” a spot in 2026. FIFA has NOT yet said that all 3 hosts will get a spot. The 2021 Euros are a more extreme example than 2026, but hosts weren’t guaranteed spots in that tournament. Canada and Mexico will be the first hosts to be hosting less than half the games (even less than a fifth of the games) and also the first hosts to not be hosting any games in the last few rounds (can’t remember if all quarter finals are intended to be hosted by the USA or if USA’s monopoly starts in the semis). The Real Marc, Obinna and Shway 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Shway 3,212 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 thanks @Kent for the sad stat, just reminds me why I’m so anti-USA especially with this “”jOiNt WoRlD cUp”. They and Mexico finagled there way into convincing Canada/CSA that this is a good thing. Without games in Mexico, anywhere they play would feel like home support - we’ve consistently seen it. Without the automatic birth for us, we are no better than a hooker who’s used for pleasing. In this case, it would be the higher powers. I said from the jump that I didn’t like the idea...then it turned to 10 games, and all the finals held in the US. I don’t want to be too pessimistic more than I have, but without the official guarantee of an automatic birth - we’re giving the promises of a used car salesmen. LeoH037 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PiedPilko 472 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Shway said: thanks @Kent for the sad stat, just reminds me why I’m so anti-USA especially with this “”jOiNt WoRlD cUp”. They and Mexico finagled there way into convincing Canada/CSA that this is a good thing. Without games in Mexico, anywhere they play would feel like home support - we’ve consistently seen it. Without the automatic birth for us, we are no better than a hooker who’s used for pleasing. In this case, it would be the higher powers. I said from the jump that I didn’t like the idea...then it turned to 10 games, and all the finals held in the US. I don’t want to be too pessimistic more than I have, but without the official guarantee of an automatic birth - we’re giving the promises of a used car salesmen. Like someone who says they'll commit to you Link to post Share on other sites
toontownman 2,943 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just want to say I was always behind @Free kick LeoH037, Buchta and El Hombre 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
archer21 509 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Kent said: For the people talking about how long it has been since Bulgaria made it to a tournament, they are 2 wins away from the 2021 Euros (if I understand correctly. The system seems more complicated than any competition I have seen before). Also, maybe I am being pedantic, but I cringe every time I see someone mention how Canada is “guaranteed” a spot in 2026. FIFA has NOT yet said that all 3 hosts will get a spot. The 2021 Euros are a more extreme example than 2026, but hosts weren’t guaranteed spots in that tournament. Canada and Mexico will be the first hosts to be hosting less than half the games (even less than a fifth of the games) and also the first hosts to not be hosting any games in the last few rounds (can’t remember if all quarter finals are intended to be hosted by the USA or if USA’s monopoly starts in the semis). I hadn't realized how crazy the Euro Qualifiers are this cycle. Seems a bit ridiculous to give a team from League D of Nations League a big doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
TOcanadafan 202 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Kent said: For the people talking about how long it has been since Bulgaria made it to a tournament, they are 2 wins away from the 2021 Euros (if I understand correctly. The system seems more complicated than any competition I have seen before). 65% or 36 out of 55 nations have either qualified or are 2 wins away... I don’t think this necessarily speaks to the quality of a side with the current format of qualification. I guess my point was that he wasn’t choosing Bulgaria because they were the superior side (now or in the foreseeable future), but rather he’d have a better chance to be a regular member, and a lot sooner. Edited October 8, 2020 by TOcanadafan Link to post Share on other sites
MtlMario 1,041 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Even if we don't get a guaranteed spot for 2026 (I'm sure we will) there are 6.5 spots for Concacaf. I think we should be able to qualify easily for f*&ks sake. (i hope 😀). Edited October 8, 2020 by MtlMario Mikmacdo and Red and White 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MtlMario 1,041 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Kent said: For the people talking about how long it has been since Bulgaria made it to a tournament, they are 2 wins away from the 2021 Euros (if I understand correctly. The system seems more complicated than any competition I have seen before). Also, maybe I am being pedantic, but I cringe every time I see someone mention how Canada is “guaranteed” a spot in 2026. FIFA has NOT yet said that all 3 hosts will get a spot. The 2021 Euros are a more extreme example than 2026, but hosts weren’t guaranteed spots in that tournament. Canada and Mexico will be the first hosts to be hosting less than half the games (even less than a fifth of the games) and also the first hosts to not be hosting any games in the last few rounds (can’t remember if all quarter finals are intended to be hosted by the USA or if USA’s monopoly starts in the semis). See above post pls. Link to post Share on other sites
Ansem 8,659 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Kent said: For the people talking about how long it has been since Bulgaria made it to a tournament, they are 2 wins away from the 2021 Euros (if I understand correctly. The system seems more complicated than any competition I have seen before). Also, maybe I am being pedantic, but I cringe every time I see someone mention how Canada is “guaranteed” a spot in 2026. FIFA has NOT yet said that all 3 hosts will get a spot. The 2021 Euros are a more extreme example than 2026, but hosts weren’t guaranteed spots in that tournament. Canada and Mexico will be the first hosts to be hosting less than half the games (even less than a fifth of the games) and also the first hosts to not be hosting any games in the last few rounds (can’t remember if all quarter finals are intended to be hosted by the USA or if USA’s monopoly starts in the semis). If you go back to Montagliani interview, he said once the tournament has been awarded, it's FIFA'S tournament, not the USSF or CSA or FMF. FIFA are under no obligations to follow the bid book. That being said, Vancouver not being there is a blow and Alberta potentially not helping Edmonton would be terrible as obviously, the more stadiums you get in there the most games you could get. Honestly, I'd be shocked if FIFA doesn't split the knockout games and leave them all in the US. Link to post Share on other sites
Stryker911 1,773 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Noone should be upset with Yankov at all. He did exactly what he said he was going to do. Play for the team that called him first. Very simple, didn't lead anyone on or bs either side. toontownman 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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