red card Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Colliedor said: I'm a graphic designer.... I literally make logos. You're overthinking this WAY too much or you just like to hear yourself talk, I can't tell anymore. You've forgotten this is a sports logo. It's there to market. It's supposed to advertise a team. Many people aren't going to know half the **** you just said. If the logo is reminding them of something else, the logo isn't done properly. This is exactly what they tell us to prevent when making a logo. When you have the colour schemes (famous red, white, and blue) mixed in with the same pattern (red and white stripes with a blue bar) It resembles too close to the American flag. Just look at this sub. It's living proof. Which means there's a lot of fault in the logo. People will like it, it's all opinions in the end. But it could've been sooo much more. To be honest, the empty white space bugs me more. I can't believe they did that lol. Anyway i'm going to end the conversation here. Gotten stale. It also means there is a lot of people who haven't paid much attention to AM's 100+ year history. If you're actually a follower of world football, AM's should one of the clubs imprinted on you. It tells me there is still lots of work to be done in terms of football culture in Canada. So I'm glad AM kept to its roots rather than following the uninformed braying masses. Ams1984, Acid-Tone and Unnamed Trialist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viruk42 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Then explain to us how red and white are really communist colours and we should not use them in Canada. As a socialist I support the continued use of communist colours in Canada! 😛 More seriously I think the logo is good. Is it amazing? Nah, probably not. Is it bad? No, I don't think so. It fits, it makes sense, and I don't really buy the links with the US. As has been said, a lot of countries and teams use red and white stripes with or without the blue. The comparison with that specific US logo, I mean, okay, they're both shield shaped with similar colours, so what? Half of the world's flags are the same shape with similar colours. I'd argue the bigger question would be the kit design - if that looks like an American kit then fine, but I doubt it, if for no other reason than I can't find a single time the Yanks have used vertical red and white stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, BuzzAndSting said: Pretty cool signing bonus! deschamp86, Ivan, BuzzAndSting and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-g-williams Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Missed a lot today due to workload insanity, but for what it's worth: -Very happy to see the Commissioner, the Mayor, the CEO of Atletico Madrid and even the Spanish ambassador participate in today's event. Gets things off on the right foot. -Very happy to see all the kids and youth clubs present at the launch. It'll be important to build those connections and get kids and families on board early on. -I'm neither here nor there on the head coach announcement, only because I know nothing about Mista. It sounds intriguing to have someone that closely affiliated with Atletico Madrid, but curious to see how he finds soccer on this side of the pond. -For a nickname, I've already seen some CPL articles pushing "Ottleti". I get it, but personally I think this is a bit forced. I'd personally go with "le rouge et blanc"; this would be a good nod to "los rojiblancos" of Atletico and also consistent with their friendly neighbours "le Rouge et Noir" - the formal French-language name of the Ottawa Red Blacks. -With respect to the logo, it's simple, clean and easily identifiable. My only gripes are that the top part of the shield seems a bit too empty with so much white space, and the maple leaf looks like it was added as an afterthought. I'd prefer something a bit more front and centre, and I'd go with black rather than blue as an homage to Ottawa typical sporting colours. By no means am I a graphic designer or an out-of-the-box thinker, but this would be my stab at an upgrade. Edited February 12, 2020 by m-g-williams Shway, Red and White, An Observer and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 The scarf colours seem to be black with the crest. The white at the top is made to sit over the black, enhancing the contrast. Apart from the 4 stripes being directly from the Atlético crest and shirt, they are also meant to reflect the four smaller towers on the Parliament Building, which if you look at the building itself essentially stripe or rib it. They're aligned even. There are really 2 leafs on the crest, one implicitly which we all "see" on the flag at the top, another at the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: If you are going to argue that Atlético's colours, if used in Canada, are too American, let's be consistent and argue that Canadian colours are too communist. Especially since our flag was approved just after Bay of Pigs. Now is not the time to let down our guard. Shhhhh, we all see through you. dnina10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 18 hours ago, JamboAl said: Are certain people saying that a Canadian team can never have red, white and blue as their team colours? I personally love the badge. But again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ....or how I like to say "Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder".😀 Lofty and Cheeta 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Bold prediction, Atletico Ottawa becomes bigger than the parent club by 2040. Screen capture this so we can reflect in 20 years. BuzzAndSting, TFC2017 and Viruk42 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senorpopps Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Macksam said: Bold prediction, Atletico Ottawa becomes bigger than the parent club by 2040. Screen capture this so we can reflect in 20 years. Just captured it on my iPhone - be prepared to pay a heavy price for this proof should your prediction come to fruition Macksam, TFC2017 and BuzzAndSting 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Senorpopps said: Just captured it on my iPhone - be prepared to pay a heavy price for this proof should your prediction come to fruition The heavy price of turning into the Messiah of the Voyageurs, "Oh great Macksam, please tell us what else awaits for the future of Canadian soccer?" MM3/MM2/MM, BuzzAndSting and Ams1984 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Ottawa vs. San Luis? Ottawa vs. their B team? johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ansem said: Ottawa vs. San Luis? Ottawa vs. their B team? B team lines up well with the Training camp being in Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I would think pre-season in Ottawa would be better for exposure of the team, from both a media and ticket sales standpoint, would allow you to ramp up hype and interest. There are enough indoor facilities to make it viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viruk42 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, Cblake said: I would think pre-season in Ottawa would be better for exposure of the team, from both a media and ticket sales standpoint, would allow you to ramp up hype and interest. There are enough indoor facilities to make it viable. Yes but the time frame probably makes it difficult to do - they already said the first home games wouldn't be until May, despite the season starting mid-April, which is likely to give them more time to market the team, get staff reaching out to people who made season ticket deposits, etc. I imagine those same factors impact their ability to have a good pre-season game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 3:26 PM, Cblake said: Any word on the jersey sponsor, wonder if any of the past companies that had their logo on the Fury jersey has been approached? Clanachan was asked about this at the evening session, and his response that there were several shirt sponsors vying for the rights and that the fans would be blown away by the kit. Got the chance to speak with a few other fans and like me they were not Fury STHs but we all will be be buying season tickets this year. MtlMario, Unnamed Trialist, johnyb and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 3:17 PM, Unnamed Trialist said: If he was at TFC for two years, you are saying he did not understand anything of what was going on? In retrospect, that would explain a few things! Also, he was at TFC for less than five months. h coach and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shamrock Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ansem said: To me, the undermining was pretty obvious. Lofty, Unnamed Trialist, CDNFootballer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Would the league really have input on that or would it have been Atletico Madrid's call? Mista being hired suggests the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 hours ago, nfitz said: In retrospect, that would explain a few things! Also, he was at TFC for less than five months. 14 games, I was wrong. In any case, I think that his limited MLS experience, the fact that he is young, the possibility to have him in their development system, his solid work with u-19s at pro clubs in Spain, and his past with Atlético, all make him a good candidate. Also his age, he can accept Ottawa as he is probably getting a raise, while still not being paid anything out of this world. The team doing pre-season in Madrid, in close proximity to the other teams training in Majadahonda, will get the entire group into the Atlético mentality in all respects, they will all be groomed in methods, medical, technical, internal procedures--and playing style. But also Mista and his technical team, as he has never coached with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Would the league really have input on that or would it have been Atletico Madrid's call? Mista being hired suggests the latter. If the league started talking to Atlético around the time of the Champions final in Madrid, then the league must have expressed their feelings at that time. At another time, we might want to wonder if Concacaf and the CSA pressuring Fury was done in collusion with the CPL working Atlético Madrid on the sidelines, with the help of Mediapro. Even with Hunt involved. If the case, the CPL played their cards very well, once shunned in September 2018, they took down Fury pretty fast. CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Initial B Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I think that's a stretch, considering that one of the members of OSEG who ran the Fury was also a part of the Atletico project. As for JdG, I went to several Fury events where he was in attendance over the last 18 months and I never heard him badmouth CanPL even once no matter how the question was asked. Maybe privately he had doubts but he never expressed them publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Initial B said: Maybe privately he had doubts but he never expressed them publicly. Undermining the league behind doors and telling players/agents to avoid CPL is justification enough for the league not wanting you around. I get the whole Canadian legend thing but that's just how the real world works. Ams1984 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 He sounds like a footballer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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