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Canada vs Iceland - Jan 15th (Camp Poutine Match #3)

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21 minutes ago, king1010 said:

You dont think wed finish ahead of honduras jamaica or costa rica one out of every 5 times? 
 

id place money on that. 

You mean finish ahead of Hondurass AND Jamaica AND Costa Rica 1 out of 5 times. Because that is what we would need to do to finish 3rd.

And, based on fairly recent results, they are ALL BETTER than us. Even if we were all EQUAL, we'd only finish ahead of all three of them 1 out of every 4 times!

So, emphatically, no!

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6 hours ago, Lofty said:

You mean finish ahead of Hondurass AND Jamaica AND Costa Rica 1 out of 5 times. Because that is what we would need to do to finish 3rd.

And, based on fairly recent results, they are ALL BETTER than us. Even if we were all EQUAL, we'd only finish ahead of all three of them 1 out of every 4 times!

So, emphatically, no!

Yes, we’d have to finish ahead of all 3 of them. Just as they’d have to finish ahead of all 3 of us. Doesn’t change the odds at all.
 

Why are we all so damn scared to play good teams? I’d put our team against any of those teams and say we are as good as any of them. Sure, history says we won’t be able to win but historically we’ve been terrible so that’s really not relevant. Our “recent results” are such a small sample size that IMO you can’t take much from them. Our only real bad result recently with an A squad is the loss to Haiti.

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16 hours ago, toontownman said:

Forgive the ignorance here but has there been any update on 2026 in terms of qualification. 

Last I heard all 3 hosts would be in but then a mate told me he read it was only going to be 2. Didnt see anything announced. If so it would likely be the 2 highest ranked teams. Cant believe they would break from a host not being involved though.

There was supposed to be more news this year about 2026.   I recall at the time that the WC was awarded to the joint bid,  that the Organizing  committee indicated that the final list of host cities would be announced in 2020.   This list should (one would suspect) coincide with the other info like “ whose automatically in”.   

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9 hours ago, Lofty said:

You mean finish ahead of Hondurass AND Jamaica AND Costa Rica 1 out of 5 times. Because that is what we would need to do to finish 3rd.

And, based on fairly recent results, they are ALL BETTER than us. Even if we were all EQUAL, we'd only finish ahead of all three of them 1 out of every 4 times!

So, emphatically, no!

We’ll have to agree to disagree. Id take the odds of us finishing ahead of those teams just one out of 5 times. 
 

give us 5 shots at the hex, and i see us finishing third at least one of those 5 times. 

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8 hours ago, archer21 said:

Yes, we’d have to finish ahead of all 3 of them. Just as they’d have to finish ahead of all 3 of us. Doesn’t change the odds at all.
 

Why are we all so damn scared to play good teams? I’d put our team against any of those teams and say we are as good as any of them. Sure, history says we won’t be able to win but historically we’ve been terrible so that’s really not relevant. Our “recent results” are such a small sample size that IMO you can’t take much from them. Our only real bad result recently with an A squad is the loss to Haiti.

I have not seen one person post that they do not want to be in the hexagonal. Nobody is scared of playing against the best teams. On the contrary, that is exactly what we all want.

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Caldwell & KJ latest podcast. Given Caldwell is an assitant, lots of tidbits on recent camp which is about half the podcast.

https://kj-caldwell-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/mls-inside-canmnt-camp-tfc-search-for-a-dp-inbeom-the-whitecaps

Caldwell liked Brym for being fluid; Bassong for being quick and can play either side, Nelson surprised him given his age but started off shy; Borges first camp, a bit quiet and needed time to learn system but came on towards end; Didic had advantage of being in second camp; Fraser was exceptional and Vanney must need to see this - Fraser chewing out Akindenle shows he has what it takes.

A lot of the debutants and other u23s now need to make a mark at the club level - become starters. Crepeau showed good leadership. Miller one for the future for true leadership - could be one of the best MLS CB down the line. Tesho & Tos helping to bring along Nelson & Schaffleburg. Cav says culture is now real in team to KJ. 

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1 hour ago, red card said:

Caldwell & KJ latest podcast. Given Caldwell is an assitant, lots of tidbits on recent camp which is about half the podcast.

https://kj-caldwell-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/mls-inside-canmnt-camp-tfc-search-for-a-dp-inbeom-the-whitecaps

Caldwell liked Brym for being fluid; Bassong for being quick and can play either side, Nelson surprised him given his age but started off shy; Borges first camp, a bit quiet and needed time to learn system but came on towards end; Didic had advantage of being in second camp; Fraser was exceptional and Vanney must need to see this - Fraser chewing out Akindenle shows he has what it takes.

A lot of the debutants and other u23s now need to make a mark at the club level - become starters. Crepeau showed good leadership. Miller one for the future for true leadership - could be one of the best MLS CB down the line. Tesho & Tos helping to bring along Nelson & Schaffleburg. Cav says culture is now real in team to KJ. 

The only thing I want to know:  how many times did Caldwell use "quality" to describe these players?

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1 hour ago, red card said:

Caldwell & KJ latest podcast. Given Caldwell is an assitant, lots of tidbits on recent camp which is about half the podcast.

https://kj-caldwell-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/mls-inside-canmnt-camp-tfc-search-for-a-dp-inbeom-the-whitecaps

Caldwell liked Brym for being fluid; Bassong for being quick and can play either side, Nelson surprised him given his age but started off shy; Borges first camp, a bit quiet and needed time to learn system but came on towards end; Didic had advantage of being in second camp; Fraser was exceptional and Vanney must need to see this - Fraser chewing out Akindenle shows he has what it takes.

A lot of the debutants and other u23s now need to make a mark at the club level - become starters. Crepeau showed good leadership. Miller one for the future for true leadership - could be one of the best MLS CB down the line. Tesho & Tos helping to bring along Nelson & Schaffleburg. Cav says culture is now real in team to KJ. 

Caldwell had a lot of amazing comments on Fraser's performance from camp.  But it sounds like the two players chewing each other out were two Icelandic players that was in reaction from Fraser's pass to Akindele.  Caldwell wants young players to understand the standards that these Icelandic players demonstrate by showing their emotion and the excellence that they demand from one another even in a closed door friendly with a "B" squad.

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Caldwell also said something interesting about Gutierrez..

KJ talks about Cristian and says he was picked up by Vancouver (which we all know) and in that dialog he mentions that he's eligible for Canada, but as he continues to talk, Caldwell says under his breath ..."kinda". It's around the 26:10 mark of the podcast.

Perhaps this means that Cristian doesn't yet have a passport. Being an assistant, Caldwell would be up on the situation, so my guess is that he is not yet eligible  but the CSA is on top of the situation.

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11 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

Passport? or one-time switch has not yet been filed?

Probably the latter actually.

Now that I think about it, he probably has a passport considering he is playing for Vancouver.

Then again, if it is a matter of a one-time switch, he wouldn't be "kinda" eligible, he would simply be eligible, no? 

I guess it depends on how we interpret it? Technically he is eligable to play for Canada or Chile, as he was born here, but he is also technically ineligible for Canada if he needs to file a one-time switch to play for us.

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14 minutes ago, Obinna said:

Probably the latter actually.

Now that I think about it, he probably has a passport considering he is playing for Vancouver.

Then again, if it is a matter of a one-time switch, he wouldn't be "kinda" eligible, he would simply be eligible, no? 

I guess it depends on how we interpret it? Technically he is eligable to play for Canada or Chile, as he was born here, but he is also technically ineligible for Canada if he needs to file a one-time switch to play for us.

"KInda" probably doesn't refer to "can he play for Canada", rather more of "does he actually want to play for Canada". 

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