The Beaver 2.0 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Miller had a tough game on the weekend. Lots of poor giveaways, poor passes. The team looks a shambles, and I do not have a lot of confidence in the manager, so perhaps I shouldn't be too harsh on Miller, but there were far too many mistakes from a top defender. Also: hoping that ZBG gets a lot more playing time this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 8 hours ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: hoping that ZBG gets a lot more playing time this year. CFM adding Herrera was very puzzling. RWB was the last position I thought they needed help with. Very bizarre, makes me think ZBG was very close to being sold. So many holes in the lineup, while they have two top tier MLS RWBs. I also have doubts about Losada there. Something about a coach who makes his players run marathons his first days with them rubs me the wrong way. Power trip? Sending a message? They finished 2nd dude, what is the message you're trying to send? Starting with a punishment to declare your arrival never gets the players on your side. Shway and The Beaver 2.0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 He's been playing as a LCB in a back 3 since the Miller trade Bison44 and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, narduch said: He's been playing as a LCB in a back 3 since the Miller trade Herdman whenever Waterman puts in good perfomances johnyb, Olympique_de_Marseille, gator and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, narduch said: He's been playing as a LCB in a back 3 since the Miller trade I saw that on the lineup and though it was an error....hmmmm versatility, do we know anyone who like that in a player?? narduch and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bison44 said: I saw that on the lineup and though it was an error....hmmmm versatility, do we know anyone who like that in a player?? They play Corbo in the right and Camacho in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 MOTM in the Voyageurs Cup v TFC tonight according to FotMob Fresh Prince of MTL, Shway, Chad_Impact and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Does anyone have the post game video of him calling out Herdman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, VinceA said: Does anyone have the post game video of him calling out Herdman? This is all I've seen Edited June 22, 2023 by narduch johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Is there a justification for calling him over McGraw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, InglewoodJack said: Is there a justification for calling him over McGraw? Probably wants to cap tie McGraw and Bombito DeRo_Is_King, Jack1997, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I am less mad about this in the sense that Herdman has seen both Waterman and Zator in camp. Assume he wants another look at Zator? LCB is stacked and don’t see Waterman as Vitoria’s replacement in the middle. johnyb, Kadenge and Shway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Waterman is really a RCB but plays LCB since the Miller trade. One of his pluses is his versatility. Montreal has used him in all 3 spots of a back 3 An Observer, MCa, Obinna and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, narduch said: Probably wants to cap tie McGraw and Bombito I figure, but even if McGraw was 100% single-nationality Canadian, I still think you take him before Waterman because he's better (and 2 years younger). Is Bombito a dual? That's one that perplexes me, I really wonder what Herdman sees in him to call him up after a handful of MLS appearances. Especially because we also have Vitoria, Miller, Zator, McGraw, and that's also with Hiebert and Waterman at home- for a team like ours that had a lot of trouble finishing against the US, taking 4 CBs over some of our more offensively minded fringe players is a very strange move IMO, unless Bombito has this "tier 1 league potential" that no one else sees yet. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, InglewoodJack said: I figure, but even if McGraw was 100% single-nationality Canadian, I still think you take him before Waterman because he's better (and 2 years younger). Is Bombito a dual? That's one that perplexes me, I really wonder what Herdman sees in him to call him up after a handful of MLS appearances. Especially because we also have Vitoria, Miller, Zator, McGraw, and that's also with Hiebert and Waterman at home- for a team like ours that had a lot of trouble finishing against the US, taking 4 CBs over some of our more offensively minded fringe players is a very strange move IMO, unless Bombito has this "tier 1 league potential" that no one else sees yet. Might be excited about his speed and size. We need both on the backline. He has seen Hiebert so maybe he wants to see where Bombito is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) My thing is Waterman is the better passer out of all of them and has has improved in 2023. Herdman isn't even bothering to take a look. Edited June 22, 2023 by VinceA Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, VinceA said: My thing is Waterman is the better passer out of all of them and has has improved in 2023. Herdman isn't even bothering to take a look. better passer but weaker 1v1 defender. Corazon, NVsoccer, Obinna and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Shway said: better passer but weaker 1v1 defender. This. The #1 priority for an upgrade at CB is a player that is strong defensively, including on set pieces. Kamal and Vitoria are decent at passing. Obinna, Shway and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, VinceA said: Does anyone have the post game video of him calling out Herdman? Did he really "call out" Herdman? It sounds more like he simply expressed his frustration at the fact that he was not selected. Edited June 22, 2023 by Olympique_de_Marseille johnyb, Kadenge, Corazon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I am glad Waterman is angry. Competition is good. We'll see if McGraw, Zator and especially Bombito prove themselves. If not Waterman is waiting in the wings. Would have found room for Waterman myself, but we get more depth if any of those guy has themselves a tournament. WestHamCanadianinOxford, h coach, johnyb and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Did he really "call out" Herdman? It sounds more like he simply expressed his frustration in not being selected. It was framed to me as such before the quote. Reading the actual quote its much more about his own feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I'm neither shocked nor disappointed by the Waterman snub at the moment. We've seen him and know what he brings as well as his ceiling, the other CB call ups are no brainers. The only major question mark is the Choiniere exclusion, and to an extent Sirois as well. but that too can be explained. Kadenge, Shway, Floortom and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I agree with Obinna, glad he is mad, and its ok for him to say that. On the flip side I understand why McGraw and Bombito were called. Bombito might have a crazy up side and McGraw you need to captie while he is interested eh? Its not a bad message to send to these guys that just because you are an MLS starter its enough and you'll get regular calls. There is Zator and Cornelius out there too fighting for a spot, with Heibert,Waterman, McNaughton all staying home they know they need to turn it up a notch or two for next go round. johnyb, cronaldo7 and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Reality is, time is ticking for all the CB's that are on the same level. (Waterman, Bombito, MacNaughton, McGraw, Zator..then there's Miller, Kennedy, and Corneilius who aren't miles better) Soon, and very soon we should be looking to find a new CB partnership that will lead us into the friendlies we'll play in the fall (or lack thereof) . I seen a stat the other day about Germany under Hansi flick..24 games, 21 different CB pairings....we don't have the quality to experiment that much, so statements or performances need to be had soon, because I can't see JH rotating the pairings that often. Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saladroit Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 johnyb, WestHamCanadianinOxford and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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