CanadaFan123 2,318 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 By this logic the NHL should also get rid of the draft. Even fewer players make it onto rosters there. That's just nonsense - if fewer players come through then the picks lose value, simple as. No need to do away with something that gets players in the league. Without the draft it turns into a bidding war for top young talent out of the NCAA and the MLS would never go for that. Link to post Share on other sites
Bison44 6,259 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 It'll go down to 1 round. That will be enough to nab the top guys for MLS and USL can fight over the chicken feed. Remember the NBA also used to have 3-4 rounds and they tightened it up. Link to post Share on other sites
MM3/MM2/MM 846 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/15/2021 at 6:48 PM, aredding77 said: On January 21st, the MLS will be holding the 2021 Superdraft. I went through the list of eligible players for the draft and tried to compile a list of Canadians. Below is the list I've compiled, not sure if I'm missing any. https://mlssoccer.app.box.com/s/955kx899bpc6dniq1l1a459j7jjcwvmt/file/764163998643 Matt Constant - '98 - CB Joel Harrison - '99 - CB Noah Jensen - '99 - CM Ryan Khedoo - '99 - CM Sameer Fathazada - '99 - CM Kyle Hiebert - '97 - CB/DM In addition to the Polisi brothers, Simon Fraser's Chris Guerreiro is also eligible for the draft. Link to post Share on other sites
red card 1,124 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 hours ago, CanadaFan123 said: Without the draft it turns into a bidding war for top young talent out of the NCAA and the MLS would never go for that. I agree with this. They don't want to the teams competing on wages. But attempting to control draft player wages via Generation Adidas has created unintended consequences. The higher GA player wages don't count against the cap for a few years but this creates a cap time bomb later. So, if the GA player lives up to expectations, his wage increase after the GA label expires makes the player often overvalued given the cap hit. If he underperforms, he also becomes overvalued even without a raise. He is then often dumped as no other MLS team won't like the cap hit either - likely the Shome situation. This year's draft is also a hodge podge. Most haven't played a college soccer season. A number have already played in the USL. And again, a draft isn't required to get young players into MLS as no draft means open season on signing any NCAA player. Most new MLS players now come through the academies or bought from other leagues. This is in contrast to the NHL where the majority of the players playing in the NHL still come via the draft. But having 7 rounds (x31 teams) means the percentages don't look good. Link to post Share on other sites
Gian-Luca 3,955 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Matt Constant was drafted by Sporting KC in the 2nd round in today's draft. Congrats to him! Fullback and Northvansteve 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Fullback 517 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 The only players that were selected are both center backs Matthew Constant (UNC) - Sporting Kansas City 50th overall Joel Harrison (Michigan) - Vancouver Whitecaps FC 53rd overall I can't imagine either will figure into their teams plans for this season but you never know Link to post Share on other sites
Gian-Luca 3,955 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Also Joel Harrison was picked by Vancouver a few picks later. Congrats to Joel! Fullback 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Shortdutchcanuck 1,730 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Also #46 Trevor Martineau originally from Montreal. Really like Tani Oluwaseyi with St. John's, I think he has some real pro potential: https://www.torchonline.com/sports/2020/09/21/tani-oluwaseyis-road-to-achieving-first-team-preseason-all-american/ Bison44 and johnyb 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bison44 6,259 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Hiebert is having a nice NCAA career. He made a lot of 2nd team All american lists as a junior. Missouri lists him as a potential Herman candidate. 6 foot CB....mmmmmmmm. Top drawer has him as a preseason 2nd team All american. Also had him on a list of top 10 defenders in NCAA. They also have Jacen Rusell-Rowe as a preseason all freshman best 11. Dominic94, johnyb, Northvansteve and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Shortdutchcanuck 1,730 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, Bison44 said: Hiebert is having a nice NCAA career. He made a lot of 2nd team All american lists as a junior. Missouri lists him as a potential Herman candidate. 6 foot CB....mmmmmmmm. Top drawer has him as a preseason 2nd team All american. Also had him on a list of top 10 defenders in NCAA. They also have Jacen Rusell-Rowe as a preseason all freshman best 11. DeAndre Kerr at Syracuse and Brandon Cambridge at Portland also in that preseason freshman best 11 https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/2020-21-mens-di-preseason-best-xi-teams_aid49006 Bison44 and Dominic94 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MM3/MM2/MM 846 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/8/2021 at 4:43 PM, Bison44 said: They also have Jacen Rusell-Rowe as a preseason all freshman best 11. Russell-Rowe make his NCAA debut scores a goal in 79 minutes, team loses 2-3 to Penn state. Bison44 and johnyb 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bdog 903 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 15 minutes ago, MM3/MM2/MM said: Russell-Rowe make his NCAA debut scores a goal in 79 minutes, team loses 2-3 to Penn state. Really nice goal on a really awful field. I usually don't pay attention to the NCAA but Russell-Rowe seems like he could turn out to be a decent player. jordan, johnyb, Corazon and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Dominic94 1,234 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Bdog said: Really nice goal on a really awful field. I usually don't pay attention to the NCAA but Russell-Rowe seems like he could turn out to be a decent player. He would have been a TFC homegrown to my knowledge if he had wanted to be, they may still have his rights, if not he should go high in the MLS draft or even in first when the time comes. jordan and Shway 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bfque8 654 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Will just note as well, NCAA is now being updated in the full database at http://www.canucks-abroad.ca/, with a full separate tab added. Coverage on Twitter is also going for as many games as we can cover in a night. Edited February 20 by bfque8 Shway and MM3/MM2/MM 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Shway 3,739 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 15 hours ago, Dominic94 said: He would have been a TFC homegrown to my knowledge if he had wanted to be, they may still have his rights, if not he should go high in the MLS draft or even in first when the time comes. Didn’t want to sign a TFC II contract, opted for college. He’s definitely still has a hg tag for TFC.... I foresee him doing two years and signing with TFC. Link to post Share on other sites
Dominic94 1,234 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Shway said: Didn’t want to sign a TFC II contract, opted for college. He’s definitely still has a hg tag for TFC.... I foresee him doing two years and signing with TFC. By 2 years I hope you mean this season and fall season. Reality is he won’t have much business there if any. glut of young players at TFC but this gives him a chance to see how they transition to the play the kids movement. Link to post Share on other sites
archer21 650 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Dominic94 said: By 2 years I hope you mean this season and fall season. Reality is he won’t have much business there if any. glut of young players at TFC but this gives him a chance to see how they transition to the play the kids movement. Don’t really understand why players would go to college with the intent of leaving after a year or 2. If you don’t want to go for the education, why not just sign with TFC 2 or try to find a USL/CPL team or something? red card and Junkie 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Dominic94 1,234 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 12 minutes ago, archer21 said: Don’t really understand why players would go to college with the intent of leaving after a year or 2. If you don’t want to go for the education, why not just sign with TFC 2 or try to find a USL/CPL team or something? No idea, I’m sure he had Euro interest too and could still go. He was rated highly maybe more so than Nelsen but could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Shway 3,739 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 32 minutes ago, archer21 said: Don’t really understand why players would go to college with the intent of leaving after a year or 2. If you don’t want to go for the education, why not just sign with TFC 2 or try to find a USL/CPL team or something? It's the experience that I assume they go for. It's also believe it or not a greater opportunity to increase your stock. Let's say he signs for TFCII...thats what 30-50k contract. But in him going NCAA route, he can have two really great seasons and potentially get a GA deal or GA Academy Deal - those deals guarantee you 100K+. And you have 2 years of university credits that you can hopefully utilize later to finish your degree. Link to post Share on other sites
archer21 650 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Shway said: It's the experience that I assume they go for. It's also believe it or not a greater opportunity to increase your stock. Let's say he signs for TFCII...thats what 30-50k contract. But in him going NCAA route, he can have two really great seasons and potentially get a GA deal or GA Academy Deal - those deals guarantee you 100K+. And you have 2 years of university credits that you can hopefully utilize later to finish your degree. I guess it makes sense if you can get that contract from the draft. Seems like a flaw in the system if you can get it by going to college, and it just by working your way through the academy ranks. Link to post Share on other sites
Stryker911 2,009 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I wonder of there would be a way to get a NCAA player to play CPL for the summer and go back to college in the fall? If they dont get paid and the CPL just calls it a tryout/amateurs would that work? Alot of them play League 1 or similar so it would be awesome for their development to move up a level. Link to post Share on other sites
Shortdutchcanuck 1,730 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 6 goals on 4 games for Gloire Amanda with 4-0 Oregon State. Brother of FC Edmonton's Prince Amanda. Played with FC Edmonton academy and Whitecaps II before going NCAA route. Latest 2 in a 2-1 win over Washington: NVsoccer, Shway, Trois Reds and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
MM3/MM2/MM 846 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 13 hours ago, Stryker911 said: I wonder of there would be a way to get a NCAA player to play CPL for the summer and go back to college in the fall? If they dont get paid and the CPL just calls it a tryout/amateurs would that work? Alot of them play League 1 or similar so it would be awesome for their development to move up a level. That would be against NCAA regulations, you can play against pros but not with, Academy players often play with MLS USL teams before they commit to a university program, but once they commit they can only play amateur, usually PDL or L1O. Jacen Russell-Rowe is an example, he played 1 game for TFC 2 before going to Maryland. Stryker911 1 Link to post Share on other sites
canadianbacons 124 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 13 hours ago, Shortdutchcanuck said: 6 goals on 4 games for Gloire Amanda with 4-0 Oregon State. Brother of FC Edmonton's Prince Amanda. Played with FC Edmonton academy and Whitecaps II before going NCAA route. Latest 2 in a 2-1 win over Washington: A couple of really nice goals. Little doubt that he's a level above the other players out there. Link to post Share on other sites
Dominic94 1,234 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 14 hours ago, canadianbacons said: A couple of really nice goals. Little doubt that he's a level above the other players out there. MLS soon hopefully canadianbacons 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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