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3 hours ago, SthMelbRed said:

It was also the final straw. MDS' unsuitability as an MLS manager was proven without reservation in that match. Actively trying not to create scoring chances in a must-win game is never a good look.

Maybe MDS took too much to heart back when Floro was doing clinics in Canada when he was national team manager...

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It's a pandemic.  It spreads easily.  One player catching it could easily spread it to the others.  This has all been known for a long time.  You've spent the last few months choosing to ignore this, 

Question for anyone.  If there were no longer any Canadian teams in the MLS (for whatever reason) would you still watch it? I wouldnt, other than maybe to catch the odd game if there were ma

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9 hours ago, Aird25 said:

Who would you take back first... Kianz Froese or Marco Bustos?

Neither. This team needs more than patchwork. It needs more than pieces. It needs a proper squad development, and someone capable of doing that. 

I personally believe if you take a step up with your coach (say the rumoured Michel), you could probably hang on to a lot more players than most folks think. You have a core, and then you tweak it. Upgrade where needed (creative mid, a wing attacker with speed, probably the right back, maybe a very experienced central defender), and go from there.

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2 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Neither. This team needs more than patchwork. It needs more than pieces. It needs a proper squad development, and someone capable of doing that. 

I personally believe if you take a step up with your coach (say the rumoured Michel), you could probably hang on to a lot more players than most folks think. You have a core, and then you tweak it. Upgrade where needed (creative mid, a wing attacker with speed, probably the right back, maybe a very experienced central defender), and go from there.

I mostly asked because I find it an interesting comparison between two former academy players that have had remarkably similar careers to date, despite one choosing the European route and one the N. American route. Their ages, games played, goal contributions, and positional flexibility are all eerily similar. 

Regardless, they both fit the bill for creative mid and/or wing attacker with speed 

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1 hour ago, Aird25 said:

I mostly asked because I find it an interesting comparison between two former academy players that have had remarkably similar careers to date, despite one choosing the European route and one the N. American route. Their ages, games played, goal contributions, and positional flexibility are all eerily similar. 

Regardless, they both fit the bill for creative mid and/or wing attacker with speed 

We could go back through a number of players, like your namesake Aird--was he really a major step down from what Nerwinski offers us? Then Adekugbe, another player who was on track until he got an injury. I don't folllow him or watch him in Norway but he seems to have consistency there, he's coming to the end of his third year in Norway top flight. Okay, usually left back, not right. We also lost Norman who was promising. 

I just think that we should not be signing former players for nostalgia's sake, but building a competitive team that Canadians can have a place in. Veterans, like Teibert and Cavallini, then young guys. The players are there in fact, but the results aren't. And that hurts them in the end, as what can you get out of the Whitecaps in their current state for the CMNT? Not much.

 

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2 hours ago, BearcatSA said:

If you ignored the passport, how enthused would you be about signing a player from that level?

Probably about the same excitement as signing someone from Vojvodina, Independiente del Vallee, Ashdod, or Stade Tunisian. Maybe even more so. 

The question wasn't how enthused I would be. It was who would you prefer. Also, yes, Froese would help this team.

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1 hour ago, Stryker911 said:

Probably about the same excitement as signing someone from Vojvodina, Independiente del Vallee, Ashdod, or Stade Tunisian. Maybe even more so. 

The question wasn't how enthused I would be. It was who would you prefer. Also, yes, Froese would help this team.

This team needs more from the attacking midield spot than what can be provided from a third tier league player.  Why sign yet another of the same quality?

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So, with the season now mercifully over, the Whitecaps have the following record...

Overall
P23 W9 L14 D0

Against playoff teams
P17 W4 L13 D0

Against non-playoff teams
P6 W5 L1 D0

Against rival teams (Canadian/Cascadian clubs)
P11 W2 L9 D0

It's worth noting that of those wins against playoff teams, 1 was against Montreal, who are actually barely a 'playoff' team, and relied largely on a stupid red card for the Impact, one was against LAFC's youth team, and another was against San Jose, another barely 'playoff' team. The 'Caps finished 0-5 in Cascadia Cup competition and dead last in the MLS' Voyageurs Cup standings. 

Considering the record and some of the ridiculous team selections we've seen, I'll be very angry if MDS is brought back next year.

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On 11/8/2020 at 9:43 PM, Watchmen said:

Disappointing effort from Damiano Pecile out there.  Really need to see more effort out of him.  Barely even sprinted on to the field!

To be fair who scored kindly gave him a 6 match rating so it was a least an above average saunter onto the pitch.

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So, Milinkovic won't be back. After they bought him for $100k (triggered by a clause in the loan agreement). Both sides agreeing to part ways.

Also sounds like they're likely to try to loan out Hasel next year to get him some playing time. I can't see him unseating Crepeau.

 

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1 hour ago, Watchmen said:

So, Milinkovic won't be back. After they bought him for $100k (triggered by a clause in the loan agreement). Both sides agreeing to part ways.

Also sounds like they're likely to try to loan out Hasel next year to get him some playing time. I can't see him unseating Crepeau.

 

It's a good article. If they really think they improved on last season and they are on an upward curve, all power to them. I don't see it. MDS does not have it. But if they want to throw his third attempt at us next season, great, will be amazing  to watch how merely making the playoffs will be celebrated as a major trophy.

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3 hours ago, Watchmen said:

So, Milinkovic won't be back. After they bought him for $100k (triggered by a clause in the loan agreement). Both sides agreeing to part ways.

Also sounds like they're likely to try to loan out Hasel next year to get him some playing time. I can't see him unseating Crepeau.

 

Good to know they have a plan for him unlike TFC who lets young players rot on the bench (although that has been changing lately). I suspect he will be in the CPL next year

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40 minutes ago, Stryker911 said:

Disappointed to see that Bush has another year on his contract. Really hooe he doesn't block Crepeau like he did in Mobtreal.

I'm pretty sure that Max will be #1, with the 2 Americans backing him up. Hasal will go on a season-long loan where he can play every week and Boehmer will play with the U23s and wherever they can get him developmental minutes.

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