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15 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Contact sports like football, basketball, hockey, have embellishment, since refs miss real fouls as much as they call them. If you have talent on the ball you will get hacked, and if refs are going to ignore that, you have to remind them. By embellishing. Take Siakam at Raptors, no other top scorer in the league in the paint gets so few calls, so few free throws. The stats are shocking. Happened all last year, one of the least respected players by refs (not American, does not jaw), and this year too (at least until he was named an All-Star).

All commentators say that for him to be respected, he has to learn to make the same moves and ensure the contact is seen or perceived, even if it is the exact same contact as before. Which is: if he does not embellish, or dive, he will not get what he deserves: a fair call against the hack rivals trying to stop one of the top scorers in the league.  

Your mentality favours the football I do not want to see, at least not at top flight. It favours the hacks, boot tacklers and mediocre players, the ones who go out to deliberately destroy the career of fellow players by injuring them. The mentality Clanachan tried to push at the start of last season was destined to make the league insufferable to watch. It also damages the possibility for real talent to rise to the surface (if you noticed, Davies was hacked way more in MLS than he is in the Bundesliga,  and injured, because of this moronic fake toughness paradigm being pushed in North America). 

If you are really worried about opponents diving, the solution is simple: don't let them have the ball. But instead of arguing for possession, which requires skill, you complain about the skill of others to justify hacking them, which requires zero skill. 

Talent will always be hacked to hell, and if you encourage refs to allow this, you get to see hacks vs. hacks. What cleverly done embellishment does is fend off the mediocre defender and force him to tackle the ball cleanly, while ensuring the guy who can dribble is allowed to dribble. It is what ensures talent can flourish. For kids, the most important thing is to eliminate cheap fouling, as that only favours the goons and discourages the smaller or more technical players who are the ones that 90% of serious fans will pay to watch.

Killing off dribblers, that is no small thing: how many players dribble a rival in a normal CPL game? You rarely see it, it is the exception, not the rule. The stats say it is very low in almost all pro football.

Pushing this knee-jerk anti-diving mentality will ensure the CPL is a hackers league where dribblers and guys talented on the ball are expelled. It will leave us with more injuries, stretched rosters, will push up costs to replace the fallen. What is worse, it will drive an even wider wedge between what casual fans see on TV in the big leagues, which is talent and skill on the ball, and what they get in their CPL stadium, which if you have your way will be a roller derby.

I've obviously struck a nerve here.  Not surprising, I feel like this is one of the major schisms of the modern game.  But let's at least drop the condescension, as if those of us to whom diving is like fingernails on a blackboard are rubes who lack a basic understanding of the sport.

Look UT, you have good points here as usual.  Simply put:  some level of embellishment is necessary to protect skilled players and enable positive and attractive soccer.  If someone is fouling you, go down and get the call.  This has been accepted (somewhat reluctantly by  Canadian fans like myself) in soccer for a long time, and often rewarded by referees.  Fine, results in more attractive soccer, we'll try and stomach it.

As with most things though it leads to an overreaction.  Players push the envelope, trying to get opponents carded for zero or minimal contact.  Smart, positional defenders, integral figures on good soccer teams, become victims of phantom calls.  Neymar rolls all the way to the airport.

So, in the name of protecting attractive soccer we corrected one way by overlooking some embellishment.  Now, in order to curb excessive (and especially malicious) embellishment we need to correct the other way: watch replays and suspend the worst offenders, the ones flopping to get perfectly good defensive plays seen as cardable offenses.  Escalante is not one of the worst of these in the game but he walks that line and frequently crosses it.  When he goes down easy after a foul, fine.  When he dives with little-to-no contact, punish him.

Do I think Clanachan went too far with this ice hockey brand of soccer he pushed in year 1?  Yes.  Did I enjoy some of the physicality and hard tackling?  Equally yes.  

With a few corrections, ie call things tighter, protect your skilled players, and meanwhile punish blatant divers, a great balance can be struck.

I've watched a lot of Bayern Munich this year.  You know what gets Bayern fans just as worked up as an electrifying Phonzie run?  Him getting stuck in and physical and tackling tough. Likewise  I've watched Ireland-Scotland games that were just as entertaining for their intensity and forcefulness as any match between the Spains and Brazils and Germanies of the world.

Do I want the goons of soccer allowed to ruin the exquisite exploits of world-class talents?  Obviously no.  But do I want the inveterate divers of soccer to ruin the exquisite exploits of world-class, rugged, physical defenders? Equally no.  

 

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On 2/13/2020 at 12:54 PM, Ruffian said:

You've been listening to Kurt Larson I see.

No clue what Kurt has been saying. I don’t see any reason why they shouldn’t be a top team tho ? I think we have one of the strongest and deepest teams going forward if Cordova is as good as I expect. The backline which was one of the best in the cpl is still intact, we have the best GK in the league... the concern and only real concern for me is midfield. Tommy has to bring in 1-2 solid midfielders, if he does that I predict we are in the finals again. 

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Calgary lost Waterman and the defense is intact??  And Cordova better be good, he has to replace the guy who was #2 scorer in the entire league.  With the moves the other teams have made (yes even WPG) I dont expect we'll see such a lopsided league this year.  

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Definitely see york and Pacific closing the gap. Forge haven't replaced Borges yet so if anything I'd say that have moved slightly backwards. While it's a tad harsh on the squad, Borges was simply the difference maker last year. The final and possibly 2nd place could have been different without him last year. 

If they secure a quality replacement for buscher cavalry will look at least as strong.

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2 hours ago, Bison44 said:

Calgary lost Waterman and the defense is intact??  And Cordova better be good, he has to replace the guy who was #2 scorer in the entire league.  With the moves the other teams have made (yes even WPG) I dont expect we'll see such a lopsided league this year.  

Waterman was actually 3-4 on depth for they Cavs. Malonga sucked, he was carried by his team mates. Statistically he was one of the worst forwards in the league, but the team gave him endless opportunities to score. I too believe the league will be much closer this season. I don’t expect the Cavs or anyone to absolutely dominate the league like last year. 

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Apparently Cavs are bringing in Richard Luca, Mo Farsi, and Elliot Simmons. Very excited about Simmons, seemed to be one of the best player for HFX last season. Farsi could be a top notch prospect, and Luca is pretty unknown but good depth at the very least.

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4 hours ago, Reign said:

Apparently Cavs are bringing in Richard Luca, Mo Farsi, and Elliot Simmons. Very excited about Simmons, seemed to be one of the best player for HFX last season. Farsi could be a top notch prospect, and Luca is pretty unknown but good depth at the very least.

I think people are underestimating what was the general consensus on Cavalry before the start of last season: that they would come last or close to it. We did not properly appreciate the quality of Foothills as PDL (USL2) winner, nor how the continuity of players and the coach would benefit the team. Nor the quality of Wheeldon himself, who seems to get a very high response from his players in all lines and even raises the level of some people under his control. 

I also agree that they are close to where they were last season, they have the best keeper by far, and they have the most balanced system. They simply ran out of gas and failed on the game plan two matches in a row, the finals, they got fairly beaten. 

Or put in another way: improvement on other sides will not mitigate what seems to be deficiencies in coaching, which is what we saw with Valour, clearly the worst IMO, and to a lesser extent York9 and HFX. I don't attribute Pacific's problems as much to coaching as to excess youth, probably because they had eaten up the salary cap unnecessarily with De Jong, Haber and others who were either injured a lot or did not pick up the slack.

I will predict the same finalists as last year in CPL season two.

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3 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

Seriously? Well above his team mates in quality terms.

Nope. I watched every Cavs game last season. I shouldn’t say Malonga sucked, but he was very over rated. I personally as well as many Cavs fans am glad to see him go. Far to lazy. 

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3 hours ago, Reign said:

Nope. I watched every Cavs game last season. I shouldn’t say Malonga sucked, but he was very over rated. I personally as well as many Cavs fans am glad to see him go. Far to lazy. 

Again with the 'many Cavs fans am [sic] glad to see him go' bs. Top scorer says quite a bit despite his reported shortcomings in movement and willingness to meet and greet ffs.

 

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3 minutes ago, Ed_S said:

Again with the 'many Cavs fans am [sic] glad to see him go' bs. Top scorer says quite a bit despite his reported shortcomings in movement and willingness to meet and greet ffs.

 

This repeated slagging Malonga from supporters because he did not come out to greet you is infantile and shows a lack of impartiality. Those of us who did not need our egos lavished by a player's presence saw him objectively for what he was: top scorer, leading player, integral part of the team. 

It is even worse that you just make up lies to justify your childishness. Plenty of strikers are economical with their movements because otherwise they don't score goals, not all, but a huge percentage. 

Apart from the fact that you know nothing about his own personal situation, where if you were adults you would at least give him the benefit of the doubt.

Try to be a bit objective, and stop with this parading around butthurt.

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I’m not a part of the supporters group, and had no interest in meeting Malonga. Didn’t even know about this story you are talking about. I just didn’t like his style of game. Yes he scored goals, but other then that he didn’t do much of anything. Of course you want your striker scoring goals and he did that, but I think he benefitted greatly from the players around him. I could be completely wrong but I expect Cordova to be a better player at that position for us. 

So yeah none of my dislike for his game is a dislike for his character. So chill out.

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2 hours ago, Reign said:

I’m not a part of the supporters group, and had no interest in meeting Malonga. Didn’t even know about this story you are talking about. I just didn’t like his style of game. Yes he scored goals, but other then that he didn’t do much of anything. Of course you want your striker scoring goals and he did that, but I think he benefitted greatly from the players around him. I could be completely wrong but I expect Cordova to be a better player at that position for us. 

So yeah none of my dislike for his game is a dislike for his character. So chill out.

I am not referring to you, but at least two bigwigs from the supporters group have come on the board trying to do a character assassination that is totally off the wall.

I mean, no real supporter slags a top goal scorer in a fabulous season in that way, with that much venom. It's abhorent to real supporter culture, which is to support your players, and even more so when they are doing their job.

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Yes, I can confirm it’s simmons. I’ve known about him coming in for about a week, just wasn’t sure if it was on trial or actual signing. He will fit the Cavs perfectly. Hell of a midfielder. Just need to get some more defensive depth and Cavs should be good to go.

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Eustaquio too. Should have been a big part of Cavalrys midfield and brings a lot of experience. I expect he was more than frustrated with how last year went. Hope he and Serban are back, not sure on Northover. 

With the trialists there are a couple of interesting names. I expected more of Furlano. Interested to see if they pick him up. 

Adekugbe back according to the tweet and the info below which is good news for Cavalry and the league. 

https://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/official-pre-season-training-begins/n-5606163

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