mtlsab Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Hi, This would be a conversation where we would post all the news regarding the transfert Market between 2019 and 2020 season. Please insert your sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Isn't it starting January 2020? Edited October 23, 2019 by Ansem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Saw speculation on Twitter that most contracts were only 1 year with options. So we should expect a lot changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Quite worried about this to be honest, almost completely unnecessarily so I am sure but I hope clubs hold on to their better players for another year at least to help the league grow. Hopefully those like Borges that take a step up (which was also part of the aim of the league) will be replaced with equally as exciting signings. There are certainly still a swath of Canadian talent out there that could make the CPL move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlsab Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Does anybody knows if any OFFICIAL rumour has filtered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlsab Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) Elliot Simmons (HFX Wanderers) won't be there in 2020 https://northerntribune.ca/halifax-wanderers-elliot-simmons/ Europe? Does anybody knows if he had a mutli year contract? Edited November 1, 2019 by mtlsab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reign Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Skublak is out of HFX too. Rumour that HFX isn’t paying a 5% increase on Simmons contract, and that’s why he is leaving. Kind of worrying that they are losing two two of their best players and money issues is the only rumour so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlsab Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 A couple are leaving from HFX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reign Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, mtlsab said: A couple are leaving from HFX Makes sense they were the worst team in the league, but to me they are losing some of their better players. Should be a interesting off season for HFX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Reign said: Makes sense they were the worst team in the league, but to me they are losing some of their better players. Should be a interesting off season for HFX. A team's best players usually want more money. If they are the best players on the last place team, they could very well be bench players on a top team. No use paying starting money to bench players if they want to improve CanadaFan123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reign Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, deschamp86 said: A team's best players usually want more money. If they are the best players on the last place team, they could very well be bench players on a top team. No use paying starting money to bench players if they want to improve That is a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 After those waves of releases... maybe they weren't kidding about being a lots of Canadians pros wanting to come home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlsab Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Ansem said: After those waves of releases... maybe they weren't kidding about being a lots of Canadians pros wanting to come home Probably, I don't see all these players been released without having some back-up plans. It is just sad that a lot of players are released without indemnities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 If these teams are releasing players en masse to try to catch Forge and Cavalry its pretty ironic. Forge and Cavalry were good because they had familiarity in their team and with the coach. A massive turnover will make it tough to catch those two even more so unless teams can bring in X-factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: If these teams are releasing players en masse to try to catch Forge and Cavalry its pretty ironic. Forge and Cavalry were good because they had familiarity in their team and with the coach. A massive turnover will make it tough to catch those two even more so unless teams can bring in X-factors. Sure, that was probably a factor but they also had more talented and deeper squads. You can’t just sit idle and hope to improve shamrock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 hours ago, CanadaFan123 said: If these teams are releasing players en masse to try to catch Forge and Cavalry its pretty ironic. Forge and Cavalry were good because they had familiarity in their team and with the coach. A massive turnover will make it tough to catch those two even more so unless teams can bring in X-factors. They seem to be releasing bench players for the most part so I don't think it will affect chemistry that much. There is a pretty big gap between Cavs/Forge compared to the rest and keeping players for the sake of familiarity is not going to close that gap mtlsab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 So, we haven't in fact seen any transfers so far have we? We've only seen players cut, but not that they're going to other clubs. I wonder if we'll even see an inter-league transfer this offseason. And Yes I do know the transfer season hasn't officially started yet, doesn't mean there's nothing happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Impact Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Apparently the Impact are interested in Borges dyslexic nam, Red and White and T_Bison 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Chad_Impact said: Apparently the Impact are interested in Borges I wonder what the financial implications for Forge/CPL would be. Given that a number of players with a number of clubs only had one year contracts (and have been let go), I am not clear on what this means for player transfers. If Borges was a player signed to a multi year contract (and he may have been given his reputation) it would seem to be pretty straightforward - Impact would have to pay a transfer fee, presumably to the club and not the league. But if he was on a one year contract and they just planned to resign him at a salary contingent on his first year performance, I don't know what this would mean. The whole Bosman thing (I think) means he would be free to walk if out of contract, but it would seem odd that a league seeking to make money on player transfers would structure things that would just let guys walk for free after year 1. Anyone with insight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Similar note - don't know if it has been posted elsewhere, but... https://northerntribune.ca/vancouver-whitecaps-canadian-premier-league-scouting/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stouffvillain Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: I wonder what the financial implications for Forge/CPL would be. Given that a number of players with a number of clubs only had one year contracts (and have been let go), I am not clear on what this means for player transfers. If Borges was a player signed to a multi year contract (and he may have been given his reputation) it would seem to be pretty straightforward - Impact would have to pay a transfer fee, presumably to the club and not the league. But if he was on a one year contract and they just planned to resign him at a salary contingent on his first year performance, I don't know what this would mean. The whole Bosman thing (I think) means he would be free to walk if out of contract, but it would seem odd that a league seeking to make money on player transfers would structure things that would just let guys walk for free after year 1. Anyone with insight? If his contract was a one year contract that has ended then Borges is free to sign with any club he chooses to with no compensation to Forge. If he had an option year that Forge picked up (or if he was on a multi-year deal) then there will need to be negotiations between the clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Stouffvillain said: If his contract was a one year contract that has ended then Borges is free to sign with any club he chooses to with no compensation to Forge. If he had an option year that Forge picked up (or if he was on a multi-year deal) then there will need to be negotiations between the clubs. That is what I figured. Too bad there is such a black box around league financials and transactions. It would be nice to know if Forge stood to gain from this. Seems hard to believe they wouldn’t have something in place to stop promising players from just walking away. Without something, and if the razor thin budgets are to be believed (as implied by the idea that a solid HFX player would be let go rather the give him a 5-10% increase - again heresy), the league could easily lose all promising players to MLS teams able to offer them a spot even on the low end of their pay scale. Hell, if you bought into the (plausible) idea that MLS was hostile to CPL, they could easily siphon off the best young CPL talent for a relatively small investment (relative to their player budgets). All of this makes me think that there is no way there aren’t provisions in place to prevent this sort of thing. Edited November 6, 2019 by dyslexic nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Nothing about it being multi-year in the press release for his signing: https://canpl.ca/article/forge-fc-sign-former-sc-heerenveen-and-canada-youth-player-tristian-borges In contrast with the Marcel Zajac one a few days earlier: https://forgefc.canpl.ca/article/forge-fc-signs-forward-marcel-zajac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlsab Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 Any information regarding the players not renewed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFBF Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just a thought, one major flaw in being a salary cap league is the inability to extend a contract midseason with a raise. For example, Jonathan David after going on a run got a contract extension (which likely would have come with a raise given his performance). If Borges is on a 1 year deal, it would have been smart to give him a raise midseason just to get a fee at the end of the year. Even a $30k would be worth it if they could get $50k for him rather than a free. This is all just speculation, but if the league really wants to be a selling league they need to consider this. Real top quality talent could go for free just because a team has no room in the cap. I feel like our 17-20 year olds are at risk in leaving given they would likely be on low salaries for 1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now