Free kick Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) People are forgetting: in the 2018 CCL, he was named on the best XI of the tournament and tied for the golden boot with Giovinco. As a U20, i recall a key game whereby he came on as a sub and after that there were several comments wondering he didnt start. I maintain, the reason that there isnt a greater appreciation is because he plays for TFC. This is a national forum. There are people from all over the country here and who support other Canadian MLS clubs. As i said before, Soccer is a sport that if you are rating a player with the mindset to search for negatives, you will always find negatives. He is a victim of the emergence club soccer and club soccer rivalrises in canada because when people rate him, they see him as a TFC player. He was at his peak and played his best soccer at a time when he wasnt named to the MNT which was around the time of the last round of WCQ. Thats in itself speaks to the incompetance of Benito Floro. Because if you look at one of the things that have been missing with our MNT for ages, its been that link up ability in midfield. And that ability to control the ball and dribble in tight spaces and high traffic would have been invaluable in 2018. But, unlike someone like Arfield today, you would seldom here a peep here about his exclusion for the MNT in 2018 WCQ. Today, our MNT is deadly down the flanks and stacked with players who are lethal on the wings. So he would not be as critical to our success as he would have been in 2018 because he plays more in the middle. In short, he is a victim of soccer club rivalrises. if he would have played for another Canadian team, he would have been much more appreciated on this forum. Edited October 8, 2021 by Free kick Ivan, narduch, red card and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Aird25 said: I wonder if a Liga MX club makes him an offer I wonder what he wants to do, he is making some pretty good coin while living in the comfort of his own city.I think it will take something significant for him to take on such a challenge. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, El Diego said: Osorio is one of those barometer players -- you can tell a lot about how trustworthy someone's opinion on soccer is based on their opinion of Osorio Yes. Absolutely. And use it also to judge which club you support and if you a fan. Unnamed Trialist and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kadenge said: To be fair he was a very different player during the Floro era. Oso upped his work rate and commitment to the defensive side of the game. He's added a leadership role to boot. We don't have another player like him on our squad. Sorry. but I dont agree at all. He was at his best during the Floro era. Barely one or two years after that he was getting awards for his play in the CCL. Edited October 8, 2021 by Free kick red card 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Floortom said: He's pretty old to be making the move. He's in a good spot with TFC and on good wages. I doubt he goes anywhere else at this stage It was strictly the way he talked about Azteca that made me think he might be interested. Mexican teams aren't afraid to buy players in, or past, their prime though. They're out there to win, not to just to profit on player development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, Free kick said: Sorry. but I dont agree at all. He was at his best during the Floro era. Barely one or two years after that he was getting awards for his play in the CCL. We were done with 2018 WCQ a long time before 2018. We didn't make it to the Hex. Oso always had the skill but he rounded out his game and work ethic while developing a mental toughness that was lacking. He did not have that at the start of Floro's era. I'm not here to defend Floro lol... CanadaFan123, red card and Cblake 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, El Diego said: Osorio is one of those barometer players -- you can tell a lot about how trustworthy someone's opinion on soccer is based on their opinion of Osorio It would really piss me off at TFC matches hearing all of the grumblings about Osorio, not that he didn't make mistakes but he became the latest Canadian to hate on from all of these soccer experts who were new to the game and spent a good part of the match on their phone! We had a viewing party here in Hamilton for I believe the French Guiana match and we welcomed an out of town guy in TFC gear to our table, he was into about his 3rd season watching the sport, first bad pass and he was into the "Oso sucks" which I had heard all too often at BMO, I had some rather stern words with him about supporting all of our Canadian players including one who is a target of TFC fans! Ivan, narduch, Cblake and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Right now his salary is the impediment to a move to Europe, which corresponds to his age. If he'd agree to the same money but in Belgium or Netherlands or a top 2nd tier, fine, but not sure he has that ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 9:57 AM, El Diego said: Osorio is one of those barometer players -- you can tell a lot about how trustworthy someone's opinion on soccer is based on their opinion of Osorio I think he has some really good traits and they are shining through with the team right now but I have always seen him as a key supporting cast guy and not the focal point of your midfield. He has thrived because he knows his niche and plays to those strengths as a linkman who can pop some timely goals and assists but put in the defensive work. Not sure if that opinion puts me in the circle of trust(worthy), but that's my two bits. nolando, CanadaFan123, Ivan and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_twelve Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I've made this analogy before - he's like a good bass player for a band. He connects the other members, doesn't need to do anything too fancy to contribute and something's not quite right when he's missing. Cblake, baulderdash77, Approve My Account Pls and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 14 hours ago, davey_twelve said: I've made this analogy before - he's like a good bass player for a band. He connects the other members, doesn't need to do anything too fancy to contribute and something's not quite right when he's missing. Meghan Trainor would disagree with you...."I'm all about that bass, no treble" Cblake and The Real Marc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 What is there not to like about Oso. Says it like he sees it. Salty. Love it 😃 johnyb, TOCanada115, N1ckbr0wn and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoaleks Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 He is a legend ….. am also a TFC fan in addtion to our national team so balancing all that he has done for both club and country too TBH The goals he has scored v Mexican teams with TFC and Can Mnt are amazing - quantity and quality both Glad we have players of this standard Club Linesman, sebdeserio, narduch and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Approve My Account Pls Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Heart on his sleeve kind of guy, absolutely love it sebdeserio, Markoaleks and Addona 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoaleks Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Hockey reference incoming and depending on your age…… he is the Ken Linseman or Brad Marchand of our team Player you would prefer to have on your team versus playing against An Observer, Bison44 and chalms04 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 51 minutes ago, Markoaleks said: Hockey reference incoming and depending on your age…… he is the Ken Linseman or Brad Marchand of our team Player you would prefer to have on your team versus playing against How about a Glenn Anderson?? Not Gretzky or a sniper like Kuri, not as tough nosed as Messier, not a slick defender like Coffee, but still someone who does almost everything well, bags you 40 goals a season, shows up big in big games and in the end is a hall of famer?? Lansdude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoaleks Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Bison44 said: How about a Glenn Anderson?? Not Gretzky or a sniper like Kuri, not as tough nosed as Messier, not a slick defender like Coffee, but still someone who does almost everything well, bags you 40 goals a season, shows up big in big games and in the end is a hall of famer?? Not wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club Linesman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Agree more with the Anderson reference. Not the biggest name but extremely dependable and intelligent. Our Linseman or Marchand has to be Richie. He is an extremely talented shit disturber and the kind of guy you love on your team, but you hate to play against him. gator, Ruffian, Xavier. and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoaleks Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) @Club Linesmangreat call re Richie L reference Edited October 24, 2021 by Markoaleks Addona and Club Linesman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Linseman would make the dirty plays and then turtle when challenged to a fight. Richie seems keen on getting into scraps, so I think the comparison breaks down in the details. johnyb, Free kick and Addona 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A_Gagne Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Cblake said: What is there not to like about Oso. Says it like he sees it. Salty. Love it 😃 Seriously classless "question" on her part. Oso's response was about what it deserved. I don't expect he or any TFC players will be accepting interviews from her in the future. Ruffian, Mattd97 and Sal333 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 13 hours ago, A_Gagne said: Seriously classless "question" on her part. Oso's response was about what it deserved. I don't expect he or any TFC players will be accepting interviews from her in the future. I thought it was a good tough question to ask. We complain about the media not doing their job and when they finally do we still shit on them. I have heard from others covering the team that they do indeed have locker room issues. But you will never see the flaccid journos who do cover TFC go down this same line of questions Dort, nolando, Ivan and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, narduch said: I thought it was a good tough question to ask. We complain about the media not doing their job and when they finally do we still shit on them. I have heard from others covering the team that they do indeed have locker room issues. But you will never see the flaccid journos who do cover TFC go down this same line of questions Agreed - the rumour has been going around awhile. It's a totally fair question. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Not to mention that he set up the question with his own comments. Good sequence all around. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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