Kent Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I have always loved Osorio and never understood the criticism. I’m not sure where the “not flashy” comment comes from above either, I disagree with that. He has fantastic dribbling in tight spaces and always has. The 2 things I have thought he could improve on are defence (which he most certainly has improved by now) and shooting from outside the box. He still isn’t much of a threat from far out but he scored a heck of a good volley for TFC last weekend from outside the box. Shway, Kadenge and toontownman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Burst on the scene looked potentially amazing Went backwards, wasn't given opportunities and looked like he was going to get lost and fade into obscurity. Got his chance, took it, has become amazing. The End. JamboAl, nolando, apbsmith and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Oso has been very strong for two straight years now, maybe a bit longer. He is a smart player, which I like to see. While Piette will get a lot of kudos for his performance vs. the US last week, the roles that Oso and Arfield played were massive. Very disciplined, smart positional play from both of them. And they made things happen going forward too (an assist each!) There was a time when I did not see a massive difference in quality between Osorio and Tiebert, but that is certainly no longer the case. (I love Rusty, but Oso offers a lot more.) toontownman and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 13 hours ago, Kent said: I have always loved Osorio and never understood the criticism. I’m not sure where the “not flashy” comment comes from above either, I disagree with that. He has fantastic dribbling in tight spaces and always has. The 2 things I have thought he could improve on are defence (which he most certainly has improved by now) and shooting from outside the box. He still isn’t much of a threat from far out but he scored a heck of a good volley for TFC last weekend from outside the box. Completely agree, when he burst on the scene what made him stand out was his flair and skill on the ball. imo. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Love his development over the past 3 years. I remember when Floro wouldn’t call him into the squad - maybe it made him a better player ? Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 15 hours ago, RS said: Osorio is so good he makes me and Macksam agree on something. 11 hours ago, toontownman said: Burst on the scene looked potentially amazing Went backwards, wasn't given opportunities and looked like he was going to get lost and fade into obscurity. Got his chance, took it, has become amazing. The End. Yes, I remember when him and Kyle Bekker both came onto the team at the same time, with Bekker getting more hype being the number 1 draft pick and all. No disrespect to Bekker as I am glad he is doing good things with Forge but after watching both guys play that initial year, I knew fully well who was going to struggle and who was going to thrive. Not unlike Cavallini, his time spent in Uruguay gave him that South American guile (you know where you have to literally throw everything and the kitchen sink at him to pry him off the ball) that made him a cut above all the American college boys. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stouffvillain Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 20 hours ago, Lansdude said: Honestly think he's a guy who doesn't have a super high ceiling, but he's got such a good head on his shoulders that he's gone up to his potential and beyond through hard work and taking notes from coaching. He's now a very solid all-around player who shows bursts of creativity and skill. Very humble guy whose commitment level is always 100%. This is the prime of his career not really a time to be measuring his ceiling. Davies, David knock yourself out talking about potential. He consistently performs at a high level whenever called upon and in whatever competition. I think when he found his scoring boots it gave him all sorts of confidence in himself and it shows every time he's out there. For my money he's been the best player for TFC post-Giovinco. Obinna, Macksam, TGAA_Star and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I always liked him and Floro was a fucking idiot for not picking him. Cheeta, Gian-Luca, PopePouri and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Stouffvillain said: This is the prime of his career not really a time to be measuring his ceiling. Davies, David knock yourself out talking about potential. He consistently performs at a high level whenever called upon and in whatever competition. I think when he found his scoring boots it gave him all sorts of confidence in himself and it shows every time he's out there. For my money he's been the best player for TFC post-Giovinco. Oso has a few things he can add to his repertoire, even at this age. The big one: leadership. Yeah, it is not a technical skill, but it is vital all the same. He is becoming one of more reliable, more experienced, savvier players, and he will play an increasingly critical role as a leader on the field and in the dressing room. He's a quieter guy, but so is Hutch. Stouffvillain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lansdude Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Stouffvillain said: This is the prime of his career not really a time to be measuring his ceiling. Davies, David knock yourself out talking about potential. He consistently performs at a high level whenever called upon and in whatever competition. I think when he found his scoring boots it gave him all sorts of confidence in himself and it shows every time he's out there. For my money he's been the best player for TFC post-Giovinco. Change the tense to "didn't have". He's definitely worked his way up and matured well. Stouffvillain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stouffvillain Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 16 hours ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: Oso has a few things he can add to his repertoire, even at this age. The big one: leadership. Yeah, it is not a technical skill, but it is vital all the same. He is becoming one of more reliable, more experienced, savvier players, and he will play an increasingly critical role as a leader on the field and in the dressing room. He's a quieter guy, but so is Hutch. I think with his play over the last few seasons he's definitely got some younger players within the national program and at TFC looking up to him. The role of mentor to younger players is a position that he's played himself into. You're right that Osorio isn't a vocal player but he leads by example. Any young player can look at his career and see that there are ups and downs but hard work and determination can pay off. Being more of a silent leader may also present himself more as an older brother to younger players and thus more approachable. It'll be interesting to see how he grows in this area of the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Osorio 1 of 3 canadian players featured as a top concacaf player. jordan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) Still performing at a top level playing for one of the best clubs in MLS, TFC. Osorio now is 27 set to turn 28 this year (1992). If we get to Qatar in 2022, Osorio will be 30 years old. Surprises me because I actually thought that he was younger that's all I'm saying. Edited May 9, 2020 by TGAA_Star X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 For the record, he is one of 3 CMNT players. There are also some women in there too (Sinclair and Huitema at least, I skipped parts of the video so I might have missed someone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 On 10/23/2019 at 1:40 PM, Stouffvillain said: This is the prime of his career not really a time to be measuring his ceiling. Davies, David knock yourself out talking about potential. He consistently performs at a high level whenever called upon and in whatever competition. I think when he found his scoring boots it gave him all sorts of confidence in himself and it shows every time he's out there. For my money he's been the best player for TFC post-Giovinco. Exactly he is in his prime he's 27 turning 28 or he's at least nearing his prime. But still even so by the time Qatar 2022 starts up, he will be 30 years old which means he could play in Qatar provided we get there but will he even be able to play in 2026? He will be like what 33/34 by then when the 2026 FIFA World Cup is here at home in Canada-USA-Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) This thread deserves a serious bump. I always support all CMNT players, but I was on him way back in 2015 when he would sometimes be played out wide and look awful. He has turned into quite the exceptional talent and I don't think it is being appreciated enough on here. Two recent things for the recognition bump: 1) rocking the captain armband for TFC who currently sit top of the table in MLS. 2) How much his defensive ability has improved and how he has looked quite capable in his hybrid Defensive Midfield role. The reality is if Canada is going to make a deep WC qualifying run, and say I dream make a world cup, we need our mids to be very well rounded on both sides of the ball. I'm not calling Osorio our #1 defensive mid by any means but his ability and his defensive improvements have been quite impressive. Here is to hoping he continues his upwards trajectory and form for the rest of 2020 and carries that into March WCQ for us.💪 *it's Friday and I seem to be in a really good supporter mood* haha Edited October 16, 2020 by apbsmith Kadenge, MtlMario, sebdeserio and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I couldn't agree more. He's expadnded his game immensely and developed into an overall excellent player. He rightfully earned that improved contract and he has not slowed down since either. apbsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I think he really opened a lot of peoples eyes during TFC’s run to the Champions League final . Yes he was a solid contributor in TFC’s incredible 2017 winning season but then upping his game against some of the best teams in Mexico really established him in my eyes. Moreover, I think with all that experience behind him it will hopefully help in in those make or break games Canada will have in the upcoming World Cup qualifying . Club Linesman, Corazon, Ruffian and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 He understands space so well, has a weird jinky style to his play, has been underappreciated for much of his career... A deep lying Thomas Muller? 🙃 Corazon, yomurphy1, Shway and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I agree with all of these recent takes. I find that he plays best when amongst better players - great awareness to play off his teammates... part of me wishes he would have left TFC to join a higher tier just to see... but glad he’s improved his overall game with TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Aside from his kick out in the 1st half, he was the only good player for Toronto FC today in my opinion. He's become such a complete player recently. Had some great tackles tonight too. I know TransferMarkt isn't the greatest source but they currently rate him the 16th most valuable player in MLS. With the majority of the players in front of him being foreign designated players. The only American in front of him is Brenden Aaronson who is heading to Salzburg at the end of the season I believe. The players ahead of him are Diego Rossi, Carlos Vela, Gonzalo Higuain, Cristian Pavon, Josef Martinez, Ezequiel Barco, Rodolfo Pizarro, Brian Rodriguez, Alan Pulido, Brenden Aaronson, Alejandro Pozuelo, Jurgen Locadia, Matias Pellegrini, Victor Wanyama & Lucas Zelarayan. I can't confirm for sure but they may all be Designated Players. Not bad company to be in. Canadian Market Values in MLS 16th - Osorio 24th - Cavallini 27th - Kaye 51st - Akinola 72nd - Laryea (Market Value has gone up nearly $2 million this year) Obinna, yomurphy1, Kadenge and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Would love to see him in a better league. Corazon and gator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Corazon said: Aside from his kick out in the 1st half, he was the only good player for Toronto FC today in my opinion. He's become such a complete player recently. Had some great tackles tonight too. I know TransferMarkt isn't the greatest source but they currently rate him the 16th most valuable player in MLS. With the majority of the players in front of him being foreign designated players. The only American in front of him is Brenden Aaronson who is heading to Salzburg at the end of the season I believe. The players ahead of him are Diego Rossi, Carlos Vela, Gonzalo Higuain, Cristian Pavon, Josef Martinez, Ezequiel Barco, Rodolfo Pizarro, Brian Rodriguez, Alan Pulido, Brenden Aaronson, Alejandro Pozuelo, Jurgen Locadia, Matias Pellegrini, Victor Wanyama & Lucas Zelarayan. I can't confirm for sure but they may all be Designated Players. Not bad company to be in. Canadian Market Values in MLS 16th - Osorio 24th - Cavallini 27th - Kaye 51st - Akinola 72nd - Laryea (Market Value has gone up nearly $2 million this year) To add to this. Laryea currently has the 8th highest market value for defenders in MLS. There are 6 center backs with higher value than him and he is tied with Anton Tinnerholm for the highest market value of all the outside backs in MLS currently. Edited November 25, 2020 by Corazon h coach and N1ckbr0wn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I think we might see some big changes in Toronto this off season. Some of the old guard has to go, maybe he finds a new challenge ? He’s good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Speaking of TFC players and transfermarkt, Liam Fraser has hit a valuation of 1M euros. https://www.transfermarkt.com/liam-fraser/profil/spieler/377109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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