Gold Cup 2021

[Unnamed Trialist]

8 minutes ago, Bison44 said:

Even when I am wrong, I am right.  Dont ever change UT.  

But you need to be an asshole about it. 

[Stoppage Time]

6 hours ago, Free kick said:

 

It was an exhibition series.  So it counted for nothing.   Nobody recognized it for anything in any official manner.   Outside of canada nobody knows anything about it or even cares.  What they will look at, if they’re interested in knowing who has supriority, is world chmapionships and olympic gold medals.  It was just a series of eight games (friendlies essentially) that the canadian media decided to politicize.   And as a result, it got gooned up by the canadian players who got caught up in the cold war hysteria.  
 

The 72 summit series is without question the most over rated sports accomplishment in Canadian history.  By far.   Its just something that puck heads in canada ( and the hockey industry) always fall back on and remind us when there is need to propagate the importance of hockey in canada.    Such as justifying why we need to spend so much public money in canada to build hockey arenas in every small town in canada at the expense of other facilities. Equally to justify why there has to be a double standards when its comes to Covid travel restrictions for the Montreal Canadiens versus other Cnd pro teams in MLS, NBA, MLB for example. 

 

Edit:  if you want to know what i am talking about in the second paragraph,  watch this interview with Mike Morreale starting at the 8:45 min mark for the next 3 mins from there. 

 

I remember the Summit Series very well. At the time, and, notably, at the height of the Cold War, the USSR was winning the Olympic hockey gold medal constantly because its "professionals" (Spartak Moscow, Central Red Army, Locomotiv Spartak, etc.), who in the USSR were classified as amateurs, played against real Canadian amateurs from various "non-professional" (read non-NHL) organizations. The USSR hardly lost. The thought in the USSR at the time was that the NHL professionals who played for money in the evil capitalist manner would be wiped off the face of the earth by the people's team from the workers' paradise. Thus, two challenges emerged. First, the NHL players were out to defeat Tretiak and Kharlamov and Yakishev and their peers. Second, the Soviet government was eager to demonstrate on the international stage that the Motherland would prevail and that true sport was not corrupted by greed. Canada won the series on a late Paul Henderson goal. The players' representative,  the infamous Alan Eagleson, was rescued from "the KGB" by players who went into the stands after the game, and the rest is history.                                                                                                                                                                     As for the hockey, the USSR was pretty good and provided a very strong challenge. The series could have gone either way. In fact, the crowd in Vancouver infamously booed the Canadian team off the ice after a lackluster loss to the Soviets. This drew the ire of several Canadian players. The series was a huge deal in Canada at the time.

[JohnnyFranchise]

7 hours ago, gator said:

We would be doing well if our National Soccer Team gains enough recognition and Canada wide support for high school classes to be let out early so the students can watch the matches as was the case in the 72 Summit Series!

if we make the world cup i could see it

[JohnnyFranchise]

8 hours ago, Free kick said:

The 72 summit series is without question the most over rated sports accomplishment in Canadian history.  By far.

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i get in fights with people about this. like you said, nobody outside of canada even knows that series happened. in the meantime, the whole world was watching when our guy broke the 100m world record IN the usa, but some exhibition hockey series that nobody cares about was bigger 

[gigi riva]

5 hours ago, Stoppage Time said:

I remember the Summit Series very well. At the time, and, notably, at the height of the Cold War, the USSR was winning the Olympic hockey gold medal constantly because its "professionals" (Spartak Moscow, Central Red Army, Locomotiv Spartak, etc.), who in the USSR were classified as amateurs, played against real Canadian amateurs from various "non-professional" (read non-NHL) organizations. The USSR hardly lost. The thought in the USSR at the time was that the NHL professionals who played for money in the evil capitalist manner would be wiped off the face of the earth by the people's team from the workers' paradise. Thus, two challenges emerged. First, the NHL players were out to defeat Tretiak and Kharlamov and Yakishev and their peers. Second, the Soviet government was eager to demonstrate on the international stage that the Motherland would prevail and that true sport was not corrupted by greed. Canada won the series on a late Paul Henderson goal. The players' representative,  the infamous Alan Eagleson, was rescued from "the KGB" by players who went into the stands after the game, and the rest is history.                                                                                                                                                                     As for the hockey, the USSR was pretty good and provided a very strong challenge. The series could have gone either way. In fact, the crowd in Vancouver infamously booed the Canadian team off the ice after a lackluster loss to the Soviets. This drew the ire of several Canadian players. The series was a huge deal in Canada at the time.

Thr best thing to ever happen to Canada in Hockey was the Soviets or Russians , I dont care what the  Ignorant Don Cherry Crowd say . Maybe the best Hockey Ive ever seen Canada v Russia 1987, Canada v Russia 1984  both Cabada Cups, Montreal v Central Red Army 1975.

[JohnnyFranchise]

Just now, gigi riva said:

Canada v Russia 1987

that's 3 of the best hockey games i've ever watched, outstanding.

[gigi riva]

3 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said:

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i get in fights with people about this. like you said, nobody outside of canada even knows that series happened. in the meantime, the whole world was watching when our guy broke the 100m world record IN the usa, but some exhibition hockey series that nobody cares about was bigger 

I always thought that Donavan Bailey and his other sprinters in that relay final were treated like crap. I remember going to the BAR that night after Bailey Won the Gold  and nobody seemed to care man was I pissed

[gigi riva]

3 hours ago, gigi riva said:

I always thought that Donavan Bailey and his other sprinters in that relay final were treated like crap. I remember going to the BAR that night after Bailey Won the Gold  and nobody seemed to care man was I pissed

there is a very good documentry on Engraved in a nation on Sportsnet that deal with the nonsence Baily had to put up with  especially with the stupid media here in Canada . Nom wonder Bailey was a bit of a  A hole sometimes

[JohnnyFranchise]

1 minute ago, gigi riva said:

I always thought that Donavan Bailey and his other sprinters in that relay final were treated like crap. I remember going to the BAR that night after Bailey Won the Gold  and nobody seemed to care man was I pissed

absolutely. i was in the states for the 4x100 finals, people there were beside themselves. that was their money in the bank event and we kicked their asses in their backyard!

[gigi riva]

3 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said:

absolutely. i was in the states for the 4x100 finals, people there were beside themselves. that was their money in the bank event and we kicked their asses in their backyard!

And I loved every second of it.  George Strombo said it best That was our momemt Fuck You rest of the world 

[nolando]

19 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said:

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i get in fights with people about this. like you said, nobody outside of canada even knows that series happened. in the meantime, the whole world was watching when our guy broke the 100m world record IN the usa, but some exhibition hockey series that nobody cares about was bigger 

Agreed. This is one of the few examples of when we, collectively as Canadians, sound and act a bit like Americans. 

 

[gigi riva]

Again this just shows how warped the media here in Canada is The 1972 Summit Series I think was a bit overhyped but at the same time was a great lesson in hOCKEY for us Canadians, while Bailey  gets the Gold in the premiere event at the Olympics  right in Atlanta  USA yet the media kind of brushed it aside,  CANADA has a great Gold Cup tourney only TSN seems to mention it, Yet the Leafs make a deal for a 3 rd draft pick yet its the number one story go figure

[narduch]

Starting soon

 

 

[Free kick]

44 minutes ago, gigi riva said:

Again this just shows how warped the media here in Canada is The 1972 Summit Series I think was a bit overhyped but at the same time was a great lesson in hOCKEY for us Canadians, while Bailey  gets the Gold in the premiere event at the Olympics  right in Atlanta  USA yet the media kind of brushed it aside,  CANADA has a great Gold Cup tourney only TSN seems to mention it, Yet the Leafs make a deal for a 3 rd draft pick yet its the number one story go figure

The 72 series would not make the top 100 in my list of top canadian moment. For even hockey, there are the olympic gold medals etc etc.

[apbsmith]

2 minutes ago, narduch said:

Starting soon

 

 

Really? Mexico's A lineup? Many are saying it will prolly only 3-4 of these guys on the starting 11 come September. 

Feels like so many pre excuses by both sides ( from the fans and pundits anyways)

[lamptern]

56 minutes ago, gigi riva said:

Again this just shows how warped the media here in Canada is The 1972 Summit Series I think was a bit overhyped but at the same time was a great lesson in hOCKEY for us Canadians, while Bailey  gets the Gold in the premiere event at the Olympics  right in Atlanta  USA yet the media kind of brushed it aside,  CANADA has a great Gold Cup tourney only TSN seems to mention it, Yet the Leafs make a deal for a 3 rd draft pick yet its the number one story go figure

An perfect example. Maybe most of people care more about professional than amateur sport? I'm a huge olympic fan and always  care more about national teams than club teams. I just turn off the radio when host talking about Louie Erikssen for  whole day long here in Vancouver.

[BearcatSA]

I'm going to watch this match.  Not surprised that Dike has been dropped.  Busio has also not been ready for prime time, either, but is he on suspension?

See if we'll hear more of "the chant," but this time with the American "home" team facing the music.

 

[BearcatSA]

In defence of Wheels and the Legman (Dunfield), I can't listen to those jokers do the commentating here, either, so on goes the mute!

[narduch]

6 minutes ago, BearcatSA said:

In defence of Wheels and the Legman (Dunfield), I can't listen to those jokers do the commentating here, either, so on goes the mute!

I've hated these clowns since Olympic qualifying 

[BearcatSA]

2 minutes ago, narduch said:

I've hated these clowns since Olympic qualifying 

Unfortunately, I am going to have to listen to these guys so I can hear the American crowd in action.

[CanadianSoccerFan]

The pyrotechnics under a fixed roof were probably not the best idea.  Stadium looks like a smoke filled card room

[beachesl]

10 minutes ago, BearcatSA said:

Unfortunately, I am going to have to listen to these guys so I can hear the American crowd in action.

Well, watch  the youtube COncacaf feed, the commentary is minimal if clched, and no commercials. Good stream. 

 

[BearcatSA]

Arriola missed a sitter but the colour game defends him by saying how it was actually a tough chance.  

 

[BearcatSA]

5 minutes ago, beachesl said:

Well, watch  the youtube COncacaf feed, the commentary is minimal if clched, and no commercials. Good stream. 

 

Won't upload for me.  So I will still have to listen to Biff and Skip do the commentary

[beachesl]

4 minutes ago, BearcatSA said:

Won't upload for me.  So I will still have to listen to Biff and Skip do the commentary

Sorry, I guess it is cacancelled for the competition licence. I am watching from Argentina.