Binky Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 John van 't Ship, the Canadian-born coach and much despised by many on this board, was named coach of the Greece national team on Wednesday. Born in Ft. St. John, British Columbia, van 't Ship becomes the first Canadian to coach a European national team. Greece, off to a difficult start to its EURO 2020 qualifying campaign, currently sits in fourth place of Group F with a record of: 1 win, 1 draw, and 2 losses. John will begin to try and right the Greek ship (no pun intended) on September 5th, when Greece plays its 5th qualifying match away in Finland. Greece Hires John Van’t Schip as National Team Coach By Associated Press August 1, 2019 FILE - Greece's players celebrate with their teammate midfielder Dimitris Kourbelis, 21, after he scored against Turkey, during a international friendly soccer match between Turkey and Greece, in Antalya, Turkey, Thursday, May 30, 2019. Turkey won the match 2-1. (AP Photo) ATHENS (AP) — Former Netherlands national team player John van’t Schip has been named coach of Greece’s national team, which is off to a disappointing start in qualifying for next year’s European Championship. The Greek Football Federation said Wednesday that the 55-year-old van’t Schip has been hired on a two-year contract, replacing Angelos Anastasiadis, whose dismissal was also announced on Wednesday. Greece, the Euro 2004 champion, has not played in a major tournament since the World Cup in Brazil five years ago, and has lost two of its four qualifying games for Euro 2020, including a 3-0 home defeat to Italy. Van’t Schip is a Dutch Canadian who was born in British Columbia. The former midfielder has been an assistant coach for Ajax and the Dutch national team and has also coached clubs in Mexico and Australia. johnyb and ted 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Robert, why do you feel the need to continue to copy-paste news articles? You do know that a couple key sentences and a link to the rest would suffice? ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binky Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Robert, why do you feel the need to continue to copy-paste news articles? You do know that a couple key sentences and a link to the rest would suffice? Okay. Here's for all you guys who have a little one: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/dcunited/greece-hires-john-vant-schip-as-national-team-coach/2019/07/31/5c6fbb94-b3c2-11e9-acc8-1d847bacca73_story.html?utm_term=.d555072b5288 https://www.thenationalherald.com/255318/greece-hires-john-vant-schip-as-national-team-coach/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 "Much despised by many on this board," deschamp86, ted and El Hombre 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binky Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 ^ True, there was also a lot of love shown John van 't Ship in the first thread. However, when I proposed that he be hired by the CSA there were many reasons given why that couldn't, shouldn't and wouldn't happen. Many of those reasons, now with 20/20 hindsight, have been proven wrong. John van 't Ship was fired by PEC Zwolle on December 19, 2018. https://www.tellerreport.com/sports/--pec-chairman-visser-thinks-that-dismissal-trainer-van--t-schip-was-inevitable-.BJpeQiPlN.html John van 't was hired by the Hellenic Football Federation on July 31, 2019. http://www.ekathimerini.com/243179/article/ekathimerini/sports/greece-goes-dutch-for-the-national-teams-bench Which means he was on the market for more than 7 months. It is also interesting to note that van ’t Schip will have Aron Winter and Michalis Valkanis as his assistants, both of them signing a contract with the same duration, and that Takis Fyssas has been hired as the sporting director of the men’s national team, and of Costas Constantinidis as the technical director for all national teams of Greece. In other words, the HFF has shown that when a coach has had a couple of poor results in a qualifying campaign, they get rid of him, and hire another coach while there is still time to right the ship. Very unlike the CSA, who will hire a risky candidate, and then paint themselves into a financial corner by given that risky candidate an outrageous contract. Recently, that risky candidate achieved two poor results in quick succession and the CSA feels that they are stuck with him and refuse to terminate his contract. So now that risky candidate after poor results in the Gold Cup, is given a second opportunity to get even more poor results in the Nations League, which will cause Canada to miss out on the HEX, and then finally, to top it all off, that same risky candidate who achieved poor results in the Gold Cup and the Nations League, will be given a third opportunity to get even more poor results in the CONCACAF Best of the Rest World Cup qualifying campaign, which will ultimately result in Canada failing to qualify for Qatar 2022, which is something completely opposite of what the risky candidate guaranteed to deliver. When that happens, the masses will get pissed off at Herdman, instead of those at the CSA who hired him, signed him to his outrageous contract, and failed to fired and replace him while there was enough time left to right the SHIP. At that time, those at the CSA will finally end up terminating Herdman because he failed to deliver on his guarantee, and thereby save their own _ss in the process. Canadian soccer. It's so predictable! Now before many of you get on my case, led no doubt by my good and soccer-savvy friend TED, let's just wait one month, until September 10th, and see how John van 't Ship does against Finland and Liechtenstein, and how John Herdman does in the two matches against Cuba? After that, let me have it full-blast! Either way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Lol still cant get the name right..Schip not Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binky Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, Big_M said: Lol still cant get the name right..Schip not Ship Listen to how Johan Cruijff pronounces John van't Schip's name in the following, it starts around the 5:30 mark and continues past the 6:25 mark. Anyhoo, we'll see if you're still Lol-ling next month? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDLk6fUtpA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binky Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Binky said: Listen to how Johan Cruijff pronounces John van't Schip's name in the following, it starts around the 5:30 mark and continues past the 6:25 mark. Anyhoo, we'll see if you're still Lul-ling (that's Dutch) next month? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDLk6fUtpA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlugan Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 On 8/4/2019 at 11:14 AM, Binky said: Listen to how Johan Cruijff pronounces John van't Schip's name in the following, it starts around the 5:30 mark and continues past the 6:25 mark. Anyhoo, we'll see if you're still Lol-ling next month? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDLk6fUtpA Next month? I'm already lolling now. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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