toontownman Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I feel as always this place is brimming with too much positivity. So to counter Bisons excellent All star thread lets go the opposite end of the spectrum. Manager: Rob Gale Williams Petrasso Thomas Owundi Legault REB Elton John Issey Haber Cox Hoyle Bench: Roberts, Murrell, Murofushi, Yung-Chan, Arguinarena, Smith Probably a few controversial choices here. Petrasso certainly. Like a few in here they have disappointed in comparison to the hype or previous form. Lofty, ironcub14, RS and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Murrell has to be be in the XI and captain. Also, if we're taking the post seriously, Petrasso has been excellent when he has played. The only thing to fault him with is not staying healthy. Edited August 2, 2019 by jonovision Lofty and toontownman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Great list except Petrasso. He’s been injured. When healthy he was Winnipeg’s best player. Lofty, gator and toontownman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Petrasso surely shouldn’t be there (especially as a fullback?). Elton John has been good in the middle with Simmons so idk how he’s up there. And arguinarena on the bench has been fine too. toontownman and Lofty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Based on reputation and expectation. -------------------------Williams ---------------------- Legault------Thomas-----Murrell-------Zukunda --------Bustos----Carriero----Guitierrez-------- ----Issey---------------Cox------------------REB------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironcub14 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Murofushi has actually been universally acclaimed by most Y9 fans as one of our most consistent and solid players all season long. Didn't come with much reputation either, I doubt anybody thinks that much highly of the Singaporean top flight. Cox is a really interesting situation. My friend and I have wondered if there's a medical condition that's keeping him from flying or something, because off the top of my head, I can't remember him having played much or even making the bench for away trips. Somebody else can take the time to check on the lineups if they wish, this is straight off the top of my head. If I were to make any suggestions to this team from Y9, based on the season as a whole, I think most Y9 fans would join me in pointing towards Porter and Di Chiara in particular. Not great technique or ball control from either of them, to say the least. Edited August 2, 2019 by ironcub14 toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Need to include Bekker in this. Maybe it has just been in the games I went to , but he is always a couple steps behind jogging around the field. He is great at back passes to the CBs or switching the field to noone though. The only actual thing I like about him is that he stands up for his teammates and gets in arguments with the other team. Last night he yelled at Samuel because he played the ball out due to an Antigua player being down (who magically then popped up). Drew a bit of a crowd of Antigua players. hamiltonfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Williams Awuah Thomas Murrell Legault REB Yongchan Ouattara Issey Haber Nanco Bench: sukunda, choineire, de carolis, musse, Roberts, trafford while some of these guys haven’t been horrible, I mostly compared their impact to the hype/expectations for them coming into the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Stryker911 said: Need to include Bekker in this. Maybe it has just been in the games I went to , but he is always a couple steps behind jogging around the field. He is great at back passes to the CBs or switching the field to noone though. The only actual thing I like about him is that he stands up for his teammates and gets in arguments with the other team. Last night he yelled at Samuel because he played the ball out due to an Antigua player being down (who magically then popped up). Drew a bit of a crowd of Antigua players. I don’t get the Bekker hate. I heard someone in my section last night yell “Go back to the MLS Bekker, we won’t miss you.” And I was honestly pissed to hear it. the guy is overly scrutinized. Make 9 out of 10 passes and he’ll be crucified for the one misplay. He’s easily been the most impressive guy in our quiet midfield, his set pieces are as good as always, and he’s been decent when they pushed him up the field as well. maccaliam, Lofty and dyslexic nam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Maybe because his 9 passes are 10 feet backwards to his CB. He is slow, jogs around, and doesn't accomplish much. No way you can say he played well last night. He constantly loses possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Pottsy3 said: I don’t get the Bekker hate. I heard someone in my section last night yell “Go back to the MLS Bekker, we won’t miss you.” And I was honestly pissed to hear it. the guy is overly scrutinized. Make 9 out of 10 passes and he’ll be crucified for the one misplay. He’s easily been the most impressive guy in our quiet midfield, his set pieces are as good as always, and he’s been decent when they pushed him up the field as well. Lol that's like yelling at Altidore to go back to the EPL. Yeah, we don't want you, please leave and go play in a league of higher quality Hahaha RS, CanadaFan123 and Lofty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 32 minutes ago, Stryker911 said: Maybe because his 9 passes are 10 feet backwards to his CB. He is slow, jogs around, and doesn't accomplish much. No way you can say he played well last night. He constantly loses possession. No one stood out much last night, but it’s not as if he played poorly. He’s strong on the ball, wins a good amount of challenges, and his link up play with the wingers (and particularly Borges) has been fine. You’re exaggerating everything and your first concern was him yelling at a teammate lol (as if he isn’t the captain??). 19 minutes ago, Obinna said: Lol that's like yelling at Altidore to go back to the EPL. Yeah, we don't want you, please leave and go play in a league of higher quality Hahaha Yeah exactly LMAO, was astounded by the stupidity Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 54 minutes ago, Stryker911 said: Maybe because his 9 passes are 10 feet backwards to his CB. He is slow, jogs around, and doesn't accomplish much. No way you can say he played well last night. He constantly loses possession. Disagree. Bekker almost always makes the “correct” play to retain possession and also is probably the best player in the league to get into an open pocket to help out a pinned down teammate. In those situations he most often passes back to safety but that’s the system Forge plays. Their possession system relentlessly moves the around, inching forward and patiently waiting for the other team to give them an opening. Bekker along with Frano and Krutzen are the cogs that make that system work. It’s often “safe” but the results speak for themselves. Pottsy3, Lofty, maccaliam and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Nanco hasn't emerged at all, has he?. Bit disappointing and in a way I'm less disappointed that a lot of the veteran former MNT players haven't planned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Haber---Hoyle--Cox Nanco--Issey---Zajac---REB Murell--Thomas--Serban Roberts These guys are here just because I had big expectations for them. Most are vets that arent up to snuff, so it doesnt bug me as in most cases a younger player has emerged to pick up the slack. Circle of life and all that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I'd go easy on Legault. He's a 2000, with no pro experience, who's been put in a tough spot. Unnamed Trialist and NVsoccer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Kadin Chung far more disappointing in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Lofty said: Arguiñarena has been one of Valour's best players. Although his form has admittedly slipped a bit recently, it has certainly not fallen to that level. Petrasso? It's a bit early in the day to be out on the lash! You're on the Ruddles again, aren't you?! Thomas and Murrell definitely the nostars CB pairing though. Not sure Hoyle played enough to warrant selection but he certainly did disappoint and never came close to living up to his billing. Fun exercise though! If I could only get ruddles here! But point taken and I raise my hands in shame for the nonsense. I was disappointed petrasso hasnt played much but thats not his fault. Lofty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, youllneverwalkalone said: Kadin Chung far more disappointing in my view. Many goals against can be pinned on Legault. I can't remember many that I would blame Kadin for. I quite like Verhoven though. He adds much more to the attack than Chung does as a RB Edited August 3, 2019 by Aird25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Bison44 said: Haber---Hoyle--Cox Nanco--Issey---Zajac---REB Murell--Thomas--Serban Roberts These guys are here just because I had big expectations for them. Most are vets that arent up to snuff, so it doesnt bug me as in most cases a younger player has emerged to pick up the slack. Circle of life and all that..... Zajac fwiw has scored well on the Audi index and is a first year pro, so I think it’s unfair to place too much expectation on him. Still he has featured for a good forge team. The others I agree with, maybe replace Roberts with Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, Aird25 said: I quite like Verhoven though. He adds much more to the attack than Chung does as a RB Agreed. He's be really pleasant surprise. Posterchild for why we need CPL. And more of it in other markets. Aird25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I think it is a bit odd to point to Haber and Issey, when the team is prolific in scoring. They have not missed them, and Haber was injured for a long spell. Issey has to step up and show his worth. I don't think he realised that his stellar role in Malaysia only goes to prove that CPL is better than Malaysia top flight. So there you go. So Haber, give him time, he'll help the Pacific attack, give Campbell some competition, and if the defense can get together, he'll be a solid player on the squad. Not sure if his salary will justify that role, but could not say. Different for Issey: he's gone after this year as I see it, unless he can show true leadership in the 3 months remaining. I also agree that mentioning Petrasso was bewildering, and also find Bekker incisive in his own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just shows that reputation means nothing in the league, which I think is a sign of its quality. youllneverwalkalone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 37 minutes ago, PopePouri said: Just shows that reputation means nothing in the league, which I think is a sign of its quality. I think it also shows that we have tons of latent talent that was just waiting for the right opportunity. Not every player wants to leave home and play is some smaller Euro league. The pay can't be that great either. Bbeto and youllneverwalkalone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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