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42 minutes ago, Lofty said:

He did not get banned for his views on the CSA, or anything else for that matter. He got banned for completely random and unprovoked harassment of one of the very few female posters here. I seriously wondered whether he had lost his marbles. A mod stated the ban was permanent. If it has now been lifted then why does he need a new login name? And if it hasn't been lifted then why is it not being enforced?

I'm certainly not in favour of banning people lightly or because of their views but in this case I thought the permanent ban was appropriate.

This particular outburst came shortly after he posted a ton of Nazi imagery following Holland's loss to Germany in Euro qualifiers.

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Henry kinda scares me in big games, but he does a lot of very good things otherwise. I really wish he could cut out those bone-head plays, he could be a top level CB if not for that.

Probably he gets called into the T&T games though. He was trusted to start for his Korean club in AFC Champions League. Seemingly that's a good level. If we are talking Jakovic getting called after going 90 minutes in CONCACF Champions League, perhaps Doneil Henry should also get mentioned here.

How would you guys feel if we called Jakovic, Henry, Didic and Waterman as our 4 CBs? 

I am not necessarily advocating for those 4, but just curious to know what others think. Personally I think Vitoria should be in the mix, but it would reward Didic and give Waterman a chance, plus Portugal is a world away from Victoria. Not as far as Germany, I know, but Davies is an essential player.

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4 hours ago, BuzzAndSting said:

I disagree, the last ban was for a meltdown that was completely unwarranted and highly offensive. Combined with multiple previous warnings and even more instances in which his insulting behaviour was simply tolerated there’s no value in allowing him to keep posting here.

I find the pack animal behaviour as bad as a meltdown. 

Just because someone bothered you in the past, does not mean every single post in the present has to be mocked in this manner. It is irrational, and basically cowardly. Because it is done in this mindless pack animal manner.

In any case if you know so much about his past, you must have a thing for him. I simply block those that bother me, I have done this for months and even years, and only occasionally will take a peak at those that I think are not worth following. I often make a deliberate point of not responding to their posts.

What you are saying that you think he's puking on the forum, but you are still going to eat that puke. So I'd say the problem is yours, not his. You are the ones eating it up and encouraging it by obsessing over it.

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27 minutes ago, Obinna said:

Henry kinda scares me in big games, but he does a lot of very good things otherwise. I really wish he could cut out those bone-head plays, he could be a top level CB if not for that.

Probably he gets called into the T&T games though. He was trusted to start for his Korean club in AFC Champions League. Seemingly that's a good level. If we are talking Jakovic getting called after going 90 minutes in CONCACF Champions League, perhaps Doneil Henry should also get mentioned here.

How would you guys feel if we called Jakovic, Henry, Didic and Waterman as our 4 CBs? 

I am not necessarily advocating for those 4, but just curious to know what others think. Personally I think Vitoria should be in the mix, but it would reward Didic and give Waterman a chance, plus Portugal is a world away from Victoria. Not as far as Germany, I know, but Davies is an essential player.

Back on topic: I was watching the Whitecaps highlights, and it looked like Cornelius took a really dumb unnecessary penalty, and that made me worry. We rarely get to see a clean 90 minute performance by a Canadian back against tough opposition. 

I agree with what was posted earlier about Vitoria, he is stuck on the bench now. Too bad, because in principle getting minutes in Portugal top flight is a great calling card.

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50 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

I find the pack animal behaviour as bad as a meltdown. 

Just because someone bothered you in the past, does not mean every single post in the present has to be mocked in this manner. It is irrational, and basically cowardly. Because it is done in this mindless pack animal manner.

In any case if you know so much about his past, you must have a thing for him. I simply block those that bother me, I have done this for months and even years, and only occasionally will take a peak at those that I think are not worth following. I often make a deliberate point of not responding to their posts.

What you are saying that you think he's puking on the forum, but you are still going to eat that puke. So I'd say the problem is yours, not his. You are the ones eating it up and encouraging it by obsessing over it.

Simply because multiple people share a common belief does not make it pack mentality.

What a ridiculous analogy. It's not the responsibility of those of us who abide by the rules to proactively seek out the new profiles of those who've been banned, monitor and block them. This is about wanting healthy and productive space where we can discuss a common interest, it isn't a place where free speech reigns above all else and those who are continually offensive, cruel and disrespectful are allowed to continue to turn people away. 

I don't like Ozzie, I disagree with 90% of what he says. I don't care to ban him because he's allowed his opinion not matter how much I disagree with it. Robert has crossed the line of decency and respect so many times he's created at least 3 new accounts. There's a big difference. Excuse me and others for wanting this forum to be better.

 

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3 hours ago, Obinna said:

Henry kinda scares me in big games, but he does a lot of very good things otherwise. I really wish he could cut out those bone-head plays, he could be a top level CB if not for that.

Probably he gets called into the T&T games though. He was trusted to start for his Korean club in AFC Champions League. Seemingly that's a good level. If we are talking Jakovic getting called after going 90 minutes in CONCACF Champions League, perhaps Doneil Henry should also get mentioned here.

How would you guys feel if we called Jakovic, Henry, Didic and Waterman as our 4 CBs? 

I am not necessarily advocating for those 4, but just curious to know what others think. Personally I think Vitoria should be in the mix, but it would reward Didic and give Waterman a chance, plus Portugal is a world away from Victoria. Not as far as Germany, I know, but Davies is an essential player.

Its a tough call.  All of Jakovic, Vitoria, Henry, Cornelius can put in a fair to good performance from time to time.  But they're all equally capable of some major brain farts.  I dont' know Waterman or Didic enough to comment, but since they're in CPL at 24 and 25, I assume they also have some weak points in their game and styles.  Generally speaking, most CB's develop later than most other positions so I really hope either of them can take a major step forward soon.  Besides that, i feel Kamal Miller is our greatest hope at the moment.  

Broken record time, I'll say it again, our best bet is 3 at the back, with some balance.  One experienced leader and slower guy (Vitoria), one physical beast, but who can be a liability (Henry), and one young, potential future leader (Miller).

 

  

 

 

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We need to move on from Jakovic. Can't just fall in love with 1 performance. Especially when he played a big part on Leon's second goal.

Out of the capped players, the regulars like Henry, Cornelius, Vitoria, Maybe James and Miller are sadly still the best options we may have currently.

Didic against higher quality attackers scare me. He still has speed and agility issues. The fact he hasn't even been signed by Vancouver, while they signed a different CB recently, shows the doubt.

Waterman we will have to see. He was fine in CPL, has good vision from the back, need to see if he's able to do it in higher quality league.

This season, it's all about the kids. Hope and pray they turn out well. Yao, Halbouni, Norman Jr might be used as a CB, etc. To me, the second Canada has the chance to actually experiment with their squad, instead of calling up Nelson and the Okello's, call up these CB's and give them a chance to prove something. Make their club's managers do a double take and consider playing them more. Give them exposure.

The current or old CB's that we regularly call up, we know they're not strong enough, so experiment a little more in that position. Why settle? Look what happened to Kaye when he was actually given the chance to prove something.

Think I've said it here in the past,but heck, if they really want to test things out, why not even try Fraser in that position? He was originally a CB and even played 1 game as a CB with TFC. A CB that can pass well too.

 

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I think we should definitely call Vitoria and play him as someone sitting on the bench late in the season can often get a boost from a National Team call-up. Just his training level is going to be higher than most of our other CBs.

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On 2/17/2020 at 7:44 PM, TOCanada115 said:

We basically know the answer already, but when do the Fifa rankings get updated, so we can officially see if El Salvador lost points against Iceland?

http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/#CONCACAF

Official now. It was a training match. We gained about a third of a point, but now we round up instead of down. El Salvador haven't moved. :(

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1 hour ago, BedBugs said:

We are now officially in "MUST WIN" territory, which is kind of weird considering that CONCACAF World Cup qualifying hasn't even officially started. If the CSA is really as cash-strapped as some on this board claim it is, then we must have a sell-out on March 27th to generate gate-revenue to play more friendlies before the June rankings come out. Was the expense of playing the 3 games in California really worth it? The March 31st really must be opened up to cash-paying supporters, even if we have to give Trinidad and Tobago half of the gate-receipts!

Literally all of this is wrong lol.

We're definitely not in "MUST WIN" territory. We still have the May and June windows to pick up points.

If we're anywhere close to El Salvador, the CSA will play friendlies in June, no matter the cost.

The California games were on neutral ground, so they didn't cost much and despite the loss to Iceland, I think everyone would agree they were worth it.

It would be nice, but no the March 31st game doesn't need to be opened up to the public.

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1 minute ago, Kyle_The_Hill said:

Literally all of this is wrong lol.

We're definitely not in "MUST WIN" territory. We still have the May and June windows to pick up points.

If we're anywhere close to El Salvador, the CSA will play friendlies in June, no matter the cost.

The California games were on neutral ground, so they didn't cost much and despite the loss to Iceland, I think everyone would agree they were worth it.

It would be nice, but no the March 31st game doesn't need to be opened up the public.

I agree with with most of your points but there is no May window. 

El Salvador for whatever reason looks like they are going to play some games.

We may have take some big risks in June and maybe we are saving money for that.  

All games are really must win unless they are against high-ranked sides outside the window (which really would be a waste, in the end.)  A messed-up format and some key losses means there really are not friendlies for us these days.

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1 minute ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said:

I agree with with most of your points but there is no May window. 

El Salvador for whatever reason looks like they are going to play some games.

We may have take some big risks in June and maybe we are saving money for that.  

All games are really must win unless they are against high-ranked sides outside the window (which really would be a waste, in the end.)  A messed-up format and some key losses means there really are not friendlies for us these days.

We've talked about having an out of window camp in May.

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El Salvador will play at home to panama March 27 and away to Costa Rica March 31. Hmm. IF everything goes our way we could be sitting pretty before the June friendlies even happen.

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31 minutes ago, Alex said:

El Salvador will play at home to panama March 27 and away to Costa Rica March 31. Hmm. IF everything goes our way we could be sitting pretty before the June friendlies even happen.

Are they both official friendlies or are they pulling the same antics as last month?

Seems crazy risky. I guess they get to grow and a positive result in either will likely send them through.

I am glad it looks like the CSA might pull their finger out and go for it though. 

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10 minutes ago, Kyle_The_Hill said:

Canada can move into 6th place if we win both matches and they lose both of theirs (exact point totals may change slightly due to Panama and Costa Rica friendlies beforehand).

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This is obviously all of our preference but somewhat a no lose both ways for our morale as Canada soccer fans.  If El Salvador somehow manages to win both games, including an away at CR, I think there is a strong argument they deserve 6th place at this point (assuming no shocking changes in the June window).  That being said, if they get two wins I’d be shocked.

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1 hour ago, Kyle_The_Hill said:

https://us.as.com/us/2020/02/17/futbol/1581968523_520857.html?fbclid=IwAR3VlN-OulKuWdKRC6H_dDIz7EiCNTRm5IpNsyjKwv6hJcGZQIJcaQ9LRmw

@Olympique_de_Marseille slacking 😉

For real though, this is crazy. El Salvador are set to play Costa Rica in Costa Rica on March 31.

 

What's weird about that article is that it says Canada is 18 points behind when it is only 14. It also says that the most points a team can earn in one window is 8 points (4 points for each win). I am not sure where the author is getting his information from, but I would think their FA has a better handle on how FIFA points are calculated.

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40 minutes ago, Floortom said:

Are we sure ES won’t try to make these “training matches” again?

their strategy of playing such losable matches doesn’t make a lick of sense.

I had the same feeling but it’s also pretty risky for them to not try to accumulate any points in this window.

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50 minutes ago, Floortom said:

Are we sure ES won’t try to make these “training matches” again?

their strategy of playing such losable matches doesn’t make a lick of sense.

Panama game will definitely be for points as they are making a push for the Hex. Costa Rica game could potentially be training we'll have to see.

I like how you won't admit you were wrong that "The truth is it’s almost impossible that we overtake El Salvador." and have insert a negative comment every time a friendly gets announced.

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