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1 hour ago, CanadaFan123 said:

Yes.. so let’s reward the fact we haven’t had a home friendly match in 3 years with “let’s just be happy!”.  2022 here we come. 

I mean.. does anyone really care about having friendlies on home soil? Sure we want them but if it was anything other than this messed up situation where friends are our WCQ I don't think anyone would really bat an eye if this was played in Canada, T&T, or the US.

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6 hours ago, Alex said:

I agree with you guys, it shouldn’t lose money, I’m simply suggesting a theory that maybe friendlies in Canada don’t make any money or even lose money if there aren’t X amount of fans. I’m positive I’ve heard that idea on here before, which is why we don’t have many home friendlies and also why we cater to opposition fan bases. 

The difference being that when people are posing that argument they are including costs like appearance fees for the opponent, and flying players to the game. Everyone is already going to be there so there are no additional expenses other than paying staff in the stadium. You probably would only have to sell about 100 tickets (number pulled out of my rear) to make up the pay for the stadium staff.

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8 minutes ago, BedBugs said:

It appears that Panama is making a late run at the final HEX spot if the following information on Wikipedia turns out to be correct:

2020

25 February 2020Friendly Nicaragua 23px-Flag_of_Nicaragua.svg.png v 23px-Flag_of_Panama.svg.png Panama
Managua, Nicaragua
26 March 2020Friendly Curaçao 23px-Flag_of_Cura%C3%A7ao.svg.png v 23px-Flag_of_Panama.svg.png Panama
 
30 March 2020Friendly Thailand 23px-Flag_of_Thailand.svg.png v 23px-Flag_of_Panama.svg.png Panama
Songkhla, Thailand

 

 

This doesn’t make much sense. Playing the 27 and 28th back to back then flying to Thailand? No way.

 

Edited by archer21
Someone beat me to it. Thailand game is cancelled. Still don’t see them playing 26th and 27th

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31 minutes ago, BedBugs said:

It appears that Panama is making a late run at the final HEX spot if the following information on Wikipedia turns out to be correct:

2020

25 February 2020Friendly Nicaragua 23px-Flag_of_Nicaragua.svg.png v 23px-Flag_of_Panama.svg.png Panama
Managua, Nicaragua
26 March 2020Friendly Curaçao 23px-Flag_of_Cura%C3%A7ao.svg.png v 23px-Flag_of_Panama.svg.png Panama
 
30 March 2020Friendly Thailand 23px-Flag_of_Thailand.svg.png v 23px-Flag_of_Panama.svg.png Panama
Songkhla, Thailand

 

 

To the points guys on the board - should we be happy or sad about this?  Panama making a real run means they will bring a good squad and be looking for the win away in El Salvador. On the other hand, should we be concerned if they win all four matches? 

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1 minute ago, trc2014 said:

To the points guys on the board - should we be happy or sad about this?  Panama making a real run means they will bring a good squad and be looking for the win away in El Salvador. On the other hand, should we be concerned if they win all four matches? 

They’re 27 points behind us, they ain’t catching up. 

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Stating the obvious, whether we make the Hex or not, its good we are playing meaningful friendlies as this team needs to learn to gel as a unit, develop a cohesive yet flexible defensive shape.  Backing in and just making the Hex is not enough - we need to be ready for the expected adversity - both paths will be difficult , so very glad - even if we lose games in the short run and don't make the hex, more important to keep in mind,  the long run we need to get better as a team ...

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1 hour ago, Bdog said:

They’re 27 points behind us, they ain’t catching up. 

Agreed, winning 2 out of window matches won’t do much for them. All 4 of those wins will get them maybe 14 points or something. Assuming we win our matches we’ll still have a healthy lead. And if we don’t win our matches we aren’t catching ES anyways so it doesn’t matter.

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I haven’t been able to find any information about the Curacao game but I’ll assume it’s not happening if they are playing El Salvador March 27th.

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On 2/13/2020 at 5:51 PM, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

The rumour was a tournament in Qatar right?

Croatia, Portugal, Belgium and Switzerland.

Yea, that is confirmed now so none of those teams are coming to north america. Initial rumors were those teams were coming to the east coast of north america.

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4 hours ago, trc2014 said:

To the points guys on the board - should we be happy or sad about this?  Panama making a real run means they will bring a good squad and be looking for the win away in El Salvador. On the other hand, should we be concerned if they win all four matches? 

This is great! They'll try to beat El Salvador. If Panama is able to catch us, that very likely means we didn't catch up to ES so it doesn't really matter.

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On 1/14/2020 at 12:08 AM, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

http://www.concacaf.com/en/world-cup-qualifying-men/article/concacaf-announces-format-for-the-2022-fifa-world-cup-confederation-qualifiers

"...based on the FIFA Ranking published after the FIFA window of June 2020."

According to FIFA, that date is going to be July 16th 2020.

...Just imagine if El Salvador and Canada are within 2 points of each other after June 9th; there could be a mad scramble to find a minnow to play for points on short notice.

It looks like there as been a change!

On 1/14/2020 at 9:44 AM, Kyle_The_Hill said:

I don't understand this, since there has been a June FIFA publish every year since 2010.

A thing of great relevance to the fortunes of the #CanMNT:

FIFA has added a FIFA rankings release date.
I assume at the request of CONCACAF, they have added a ranking date on June 11th.
http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/

The FIFA international match window is June 1st to 9th
The UEFA EURO and the Copa America start on June 12th
https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/1653-men-s-international-match-calendar-2018-2024.pdf?cloudid=vypxfhb9frfxwu25v23z

Looks like they squeezed a date right in between the two!

So mercifully by June 9th we will know if we make the Hex or not; no last minute minnow-match shenanigans!

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7 hours ago, Yoginess said:

If Panama is able to catch us, that very likely means we didn't catch up to ES so it doesn't really matter.

At 27 points behind us, it would take an epic losing streak on our part against several minnows and an epic winning streak against many top teams for them to catch us. Panama is not relevant. Curaçao is not relevant. It is us or (likely) El Salvador.

Panama will play Nicaragua on February 25th:
http://twitter.com/Fenifutnica/status/1229065697541709830

Panama will play Guatemala on March 4th: 
http://www.fepafut.com/noticias/3858/panama-jugara-ante-guatemala-a-inicios-de-marzo

an yes, Panama will play El Salvador on March 27th (the same night we play T&T):
http://www.fepafut.com/noticias/3932/panama-jugara-ante-su-similar-de-el-salvador-el-proximo-27-de-marzo

That last game is hugely important for us. Although both teams don't look like they have any big young names right now, Panama can be at full strength. Like us, El Salvador has to field at U23 squad for Olympic qualifying.

 

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On 2/15/2020 at 8:04 PM, lenny said:

Can anyone tell me how to access the presale tickets?  It says, " Canada Soccer Insiders " will be able to buy tickets the day before they go on sale to everyone else but no further info is provided.

Sign up for the newsletter on the CSA site, they'll send out the presale details.

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1 hour ago, BedBugs said:

In today's brave new soccer world, countries MUST play a number of friendlies on a regular basis in order to maintain a high-enough FIFA/Coca-Cola ranking to have any hope of competing at a level such as the HEX and the World Cup Final.

So is this new FIFA/CONCACAF World Cup qualifying format proving to be a viable concept for cash-strapped national soccer associations like the CSA that want to get ahead? In addition to the costs involved with competing in the Gold Cup competition, the CSA has also recently been forced to absorb the cost of playing an additional number of matches in the new Nation's League competition.

Looking at the attendance figures of the friendlies Canada has played this year in an effort to qualify for the HEX, the financial returns don't look promising at all:

The official attendance for the March 31st, 2020 friendly against Trinidad & Tobago will total less than 100 spectators.

The official attendance for the March 27th, 2020 friendly against Trinidad & Tobago will total at best 6,200 spectators.

The official attendance for the January 15th, 2020 friendly against Iceland totaled 20 spectators.

The official attendance for the January 10th, 2020 friendly against Barbados totaled 5 spectators.

The official attendance for the January 7th, 2020 friendly against Barbados totaled 5 spectators.

The aggregate attendance for these 5 matches would add up to a grand total of 6,330 spectators at best, which is well below the CPL average.

Hadn't thought about it but you're right. CSA is spending big on a longshot. If it works it would be huge though. 

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1 hour ago, BedBugs said:

In today's brave new soccer world, countries MUST play a number of friendlies on a regular basis in order to maintain a high-enough FIFA/Coca-Cola ranking to have any hope of competing at a level such as the HEX and the World Cup Final.

So is this new FIFA/CONCACAF World Cup qualifying format proving to be a viable concept for cash-strapped national soccer associations like the CSA that want to get ahead? In addition to the costs involved with competing in the Gold Cup competition, the CSA has also recently been forced to absorb the cost of playing an additional number of matches in the new Nation's League competition.

Looking at the attendance figures of the friendlies Canada has played this year in an effort to qualify for the HEX, the financial returns don't look promising at all:

The official attendance for the March 31st, 2020 friendly against Trinidad & Tobago will total less than 100 spectators.

The official attendance for the March 27th, 2020 friendly against Trinidad & Tobago will total at best 6,200 spectators.

The official attendance for the January 15th, 2020 friendly against Iceland totaled 20 spectators.

The official attendance for the January 10th, 2020 friendly against Barbados totaled 5 spectators.

The official attendance for the January 7th, 2020 friendly against Barbados totaled 5 spectators.

The aggregate attendance for these 5 matches would add up to a grand total of 6,330 spectators at best, which is well below the CPL average.

The csa has been doing this for years- playing friendlies in front of nobody in neutral sites in Europe. Playing New Zealand in Spain, Belarus in Turkey, and more recently Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan In Austria. 

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4 minutes ago, Alex said:

The csa has been doing this for years- playing friendlies in front of nobody in neutral sites in Europe. Playing New Zealand in Spain, Belarus in Turkey, and more recently Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan In Austria. 

I saw our first friendly under Floro in Oliva, near Valencia, Spain, vs. Mauritania. 

I think me and my son were the only Canada fans there. There were about 35 Mauritanians, including the ambassador. Then, because the camp was a big one, there were about 10 Canucks not dressed for the match.

The best part of that game was that the reffing was very good!

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4 hours ago, BuzzAndSting said:

Sign up for the newsletter on the CSA site, they'll send out the presale details.

Thanks.  I already receive the newsletter.  Is the info in the newsletters or sent out separately?   Looking through my mail from Canada Soccer I don't seem to have received any presale info from them for previous games.

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Just now, lenny said:

Thanks.  I already receive the newsletter.  Is the info in the newsletters or sent out separately?   Looking through my mail from Canada Soccer I don't seem to have received any presale info from them for previous games.

I have no idea, I assume they'll send out a newsletter ahead of the game with ticketing info.

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1 hour ago, BedBugs said:

 

      It is a sad day indeed  

It is a sad day indeed when Robert returns but STILL FEELS THE NEED TO COPY PASTE ENTIRE TABLES ON THE FORUM! It is bad etiquette. The formatting is dreadful. Just stop. It isn't necessary to make your point. Use some esthetic discretion please.

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