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44 minutes ago, SoccMan said:

So is the CSA going to schedule any games to try and move up the rankings . I mean If there is a chance of moving up then why wouldn’t they? What’s the worst that can happen ? They don’t get the right results and there ends up being no change in the rankings. However, if you do get the right results you could be in the Hex. 

If El Salvador adopts a "catch-us-if-you-can" approach and plays no more friendlies between now and June, then how many friendlies do you think Canada would have to play to earn 16 points? Even though we're all praying that the CSA is going to announce any day now that we're going to play a handful of friendlies over the next six months, it seems very unlikely considering they've only organized one over the course of the last two years. The CSA only has enough money to invest in the WNT, and that's the reality of soccer in Canada today.

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On 11/28/2019 at 6:37 AM, Kyle_The_Hill said:

How is it that a "terrible team" like El Salvador is able to arrange friendlies against Iceland and the United States? And why is it that after this "terrible team" decides to cancel these two matches that the CSA is not immediately jumping on the opportunity to contact both the Iceland and United States associations/federations to pick up both of these matches? Has the CSA already made the decision to try and qualify for Qatar via the minnows route? And if so, why hasn't the CSA publicly announced that they have opted for this route? Is the CSA just planning to quietly lay low as it usually does when the optics don't look that good?

Of course, it much easier to deflect from answering these question by simply saying F U to me, right?

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2 hours ago, Ove said:

How is it that a "terrible team" like El Salvador is able to arrange friendlies against Iceland and the United States? And why is it that after this "terrible team" decides to cancel these two matches that the CSA is not immediately jumping on the opportunity to contact both the Iceland and United States associations/federations to pick up both of these matches? Has the CSA already made the decision to try and qualify for Qatar via the minnows route? And if so, why hasn't the CSA publicly announced that they have opted for this route? Is the CSA just planning to quietly lay low as it usually does when the optics don't look that good?

Of course, it much easier to deflect from answering these question by simply saying F U to me, right?

Because El Salvador is not "arranging" the friendlies.  Match promoters are.  El Salvador is attractive to these middlemen because they consistently sell 20K tickets in the US.  

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1 hour ago, CanadianSoccerFan said:

Because El Salvador is not "arranging" the friendlies.  Match promoters are.  El Salvador is attractive to these middlemen because they consistently sell 20K tickets in the US.  

Really? An El Salvador vs Iceland friendly is going to attract 20,000 in the United States? So if then why don't we play more friendlies against El Salvador? Aren't there approximately 30,000 Salvadoreno Canadians living in Toronto and Mississauge? Surely such an attractive team as El Salvador you would draw more bums in seats than the 17126 that turned up for the unattractive United States team in a meaningless CONCACAF Nations League match? Aren't there any promotors in TO who like to make $$$$? 

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How many friendlies in the last 25 years, since the June 12th, 1994 match at Varsity Stadium, in Toronto, against the Netherlands (Oh God, why did it have to be against the Dutch), which attracted 20,104 fans, has the CSA arranged for the MNT against an opponent that would attract a casual Canadian sports fan to buy a ticket? The answer is a big fat ZERO! The only interesting opponents that have played in Canada during the past QUARTER OF A CENTURY are Mexico and the United States whenever we are drawn against them in World Cup or Nations League qualifying. Why in all of those years have teams like England, Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Brazil or Argentina never been invited to come and play in Canada? Why hasn't the CSA ever promoted the MNT the same way it promotes the WNT?

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2 hours ago, CanadianSoccerFan said:

Because El Salvador is not "arranging" the friendlies.  Match promoters are.  El Salvador is attractive to these middlemen because they consistently sell 20K tickets in the US.  

Just for the record could you please indicate which of the following friendlies that El Salvador has played in the United States consistently attracted sales of 20,000 tickets in the last 10 years:

November, 2019
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Nov 19
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2 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Nations League
Sat, Nov 16
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1 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Nations League
 
October, 2019
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Oct 15
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0 - 2
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FT CONCACAF Nations League
Sat, Oct 12
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0 - 2
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FT CONCACAF Nations League
 
September, 2019
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Sep 10
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1 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Nations League
Sat, Sep 7
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3 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Nations League
 
June, 2019
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Jun 25
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4 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Fri, Jun 21
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0 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Mon, Jun 17
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0 - 1
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Sun, Jun 9
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2 - 0
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FT International Friendly
Sun, Jun 2
slv.png&w=20&h=20
1 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
March, 2019
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Mar 26
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0 - 2
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FT International Friendly
Sat, Mar 23
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2 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Nations League Qualifying
Wed, Mar 6
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1 - 3
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FT International Friendly
 
November, 2018
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Nov 20
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1 - 0
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FT International Friendly
Fri, Nov 16
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1 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Nations League Qualifying
 
October, 2018
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sat, Oct 13
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3 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Nations League Qualifying
 
September, 2018
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Sep 11
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5 - 0
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FT International Friendly
Sat, Sep 8
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1 - 2
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FT CONCACAF Nations League Qualifying
 
June, 2018
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sat, Jun 2
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0 - 1
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FT International Friendly
 
October, 2017
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sun, Oct 8
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1 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
July, 2017
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Jul 19
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2 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Sun, Jul 16
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1 - 1
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Thu, Jul 13
slv.png&w=20&h=20
2 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Sun, Jul 9
mex.png&w=20&h=20
3 - 1
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
 
June, 2017
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Jun 13
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3 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
May, 2017
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sat, May 27
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2 - 2
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FT International Friendly
 
March, 2017
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Mar 22
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1 - 1
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FT International Friendly
 
September, 2016
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Sep 6
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3 - 1
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Sep 2
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1 - 3
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
 
June, 2016
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Jun 1
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4 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
May, 2016
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sat, May 28
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3 - 1
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FT International Friendly
 
March, 2016
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Mar 29
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2 - 0
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Mar 25
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2 - 2
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Wed, Mar 9
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0 - 0
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FT International Friendly
Wed, Mar 2
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0 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
February, 2016
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Feb 17
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0 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
November, 2015
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Nov 17
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0 - 0
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Nov 13
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3 - 0
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
 
September, 2015
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Sep 8
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1 - 0
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2nd Leg
FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Sep 4
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0 - 1
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1st Leg
FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
 
July, 2015
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Jul 14
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1 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Sat, Jul 11
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1 - 1
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Wed, Jul 8
slv.png&w=20&h=20
0 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
 
June, 2015
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Jun 16
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4 - 1
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2nd Leg · El Salvador wins 6-3 on aggregate
FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Thu, Jun 11
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2 - 2
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1st Leg
FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Jun 5
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1 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
March, 2015
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sat, Mar 28
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0 - 2
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FT International Friendly
 
October, 2014
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Oct 14
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1 - 5
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FT International Friendly
Fri, Oct 10
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3 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
June, 2014
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sat, Jun 7
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0 - 2
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FT International Friendly
Wed, Jun 4
slv.png&w=20&h=20
1 - 2
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FT International Friendly
 
July, 2013
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sun, Jul 21
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5 - 1
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Mon, Jul 15
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1 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Fri, Jul 12
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1 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Mon, Jul 8
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2 - 2
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
 
May, 2013
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, May 22
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2 - 1
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FT International Friendly
 
March, 2013
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Thu, Mar 21
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5 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
February, 2013
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Feb 6
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3 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
October, 2012
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Oct 16
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2 - 0
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Oct 12
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0 - 1
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
 
September, 2012
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Sep 11
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2 - 3
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Sep 7
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2 - 2
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
 
August, 2012
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Aug 15
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0 - 2
jam.png&w=20&h=20
FT International Friendly
Sat, Aug 11
slv.png&w=20&h=20
1 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
June, 2012
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Jun 12
slv.png&w=20&h=20
1 - 2
mex.png&w=20&h=20
FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Jun 8
crc.png&w=20&h=20
2 - 2
slv.png&w=20&h=20
FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Sat, Jun 2
slv.png&w=20&h=20
0 - 3
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FT International Friendly
 
May, 2012
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sat, May 26
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2 - 0
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FT International Friendly
Wed, May 23
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2 - 2
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FT International Friendly
 
March, 2012
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sat, Mar 31
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2 - 3
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FT CONCACAF U23 Tournament
Mon, Mar 26
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3 - 3
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FT CONCACAF U23 Tournament
Sat, Mar 24
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0 - 4
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FT CONCACAF U23 Tournament
Thu, Mar 22
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0 - 0
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FT CONCACAF U23 Tournament
 
February, 2012
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Feb 29
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0 - 2
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FT International Friendly
 
November, 2011
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Nov 15
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4 - 0
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Nov 11
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1 - 3
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
 
October, 2011
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Oct 11
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4 - 0
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Oct 7
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1 - 2
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
 
September, 2011
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Sep 13
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0 - 0
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Postponed International Friendly
Tue, Sep 6
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1 - 4
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
Fri, Sep 2
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3 - 2
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FT FIFA World Cup Qualifying - CONCACAF
 
August, 2011
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Aug 10
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0 - 0
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Postponed International Friendly
Sun, Aug 7
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2 - 1
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FT International Friendly
 
June, 2011
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sun, Jun 19
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1 - 1
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El Salvador wins 3-5 on Penalty Kicks
Shootout CONCACAF Gold Cup
Sun, Jun 12
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6 - 1
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Thu, Jun 9
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1 - 1
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
Sun, Jun 5
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5 - 0
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FT CONCACAF Gold Cup
 
May, 2011
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Sun, May 29
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2 - 2
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FT International Friendly
 
October, 2010
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Fri, Oct 8
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1 - 0
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FT International Friendly
 
September, 2010
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Tue, Sep 7
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2 - 1
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FT International Friendly
Sat, Sep 4
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2 - 2
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FT International Friendly
Fri, Sep 3
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2 - 2
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FT International Friendly
 
March, 2010
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Mar 3
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1 - 2
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FT International Friendly
 
February, 2010
 
DATE MATCH RESULT COMPETITION
Wed, Feb 24
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2 - 1
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FT International Friendly

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1 hour ago, Ove said:

How many friendlies in the last 25 years, since the June 12th, 1994 match at Varsity Stadium, in Toronto, against the Netherlands (Oh God, why did it have to be against the Dutch), which attracted 20,104 fans, has the CSA arranged for the MNT against an opponent that would attract a casual Canadian sports fan to buy a ticket? The answer is a big fat ZERO! The only interesting opponents that have played in Canada during the past QUARTER OF A CENTURY are Mexico and the United States whenever we are drawn against them in World Cup or Nations League qualifying. Why in all of those years have teams like England, Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Brazil or Argentina never been invited to come and play in Canada? Why hasn't the CSA ever promoted the MNT the same way it promotes the WNT?

I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for here.  I can almost guarantee that Canada has invited a number of those teams to come and play here, and there was as strong rumour during Canada soccer's 100th anniversary that England was coming to play.  Ended up being the US. But the reality is that the CSA doesn't have the money to bring in those teams, and o one here is arguing that the CSA has been historically well run.  Is your argument that an independent promoter should be bringing these teams in? 

As for your giant list of El Salvador games, you've mixed in games not played in the US.  But the first couple of games that have attendance listed on Wikipedia have them at 17k and 18k. They didn't hit the 20k mark, they only came really close.  So...congrats?

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@admin

Can we please nip this **** in the bud and ban this fuckwit permanently before he spends months wrecking the forum for everybody else until his inevitable next step over the line? Why must we wait for history to repeat itself, again, with this clown?

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27 minutes ago, Watchmen said:

I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for here.  I can almost guarantee that Canada has invited a number of those teams to come and play here, and there was as strong rumour during Canada soccer's 100th anniversary that England was coming to play.  Ended up being the US. But the reality is that the CSA doesn't have the money to bring in those teams, and o one here is arguing that the CSA has been historically well run.  Is your argument that an independent promoter should be bringing these teams in? 

As for your giant list of El Salvador games, you've mixed in games not played in the US.  But the first couple of games that have attendance listed on Wikipedia have them at 17k and 18k. They didn't hit the 20k mark, they only came really close.  So...congrats?

What I'm looking for from the countless CSA defense attorneys on this board is some factual evidence, such as links to creditable source, that substantiate the excuses that are being offered for the CSA's inability to do their job. "I can almost guarantee" is not factual evidence. A "strong rumour" is not factual evidence. Saying "that the CSA doesn't have the money" is not factual evidence. Falling 10% and 15% short of a mark is not exactly hitting the mark consistently. England coming to play, but the United States ending up being the opponent instead, is not exactly England playing here, now is it? All these are is lots of unsubstantiated and lame excuses. This has been going on for years. Why are you and others saying these things that aren't true? Better yet, how has defending the CSA like you and others really been working out for us? Apparently, we can't even seem to interest any other countries to play a friendly with us. Is the CSA so broke that they have to wave the white flag six months before qualify for the HEX ends. I am sick and tired of hearing that the CSA don't have money. I am sick and tired of hearing that nobody wants to play us. I call B.S. 

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16 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said:

@admin

Can we please nip this **** in the bud and ban this fuckwit permanently before he spends months wrecking the forum for everybody else until his inevitable next step over the line? Why must we wait for history to repeat itself, again, with this clown?

Hey I'll do you a favour Vuckface. You can have your loser forum. I'll leave of my own volition.

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22 hours ago, Ove said:

How is it that a "terrible team" like El Salvador is able to arrange friendlies against Iceland and the United States? And why is it that after this "terrible team" decides to cancel these two matches that the CSA is not immediately jumping on the opportunity to contact both the Iceland and United States associations/federations to pick up both of these matches? Has the CSA already made the decision to try and qualify for Qatar via the minnows route? And if so, why hasn't the CSA publicly announced that they have opted for this route? Is the CSA just planning to quietly lay low as it usually does when the optics don't look that good?

Of course, it much easier to deflect from answering these question by simply saying F U to me, right?

The mysterious and enigmatic CSA, sometimes I think it was more closed than the National Football Association of North Korea. Sorry for the pessimism, but Canada has immense potential and the CSA seem not to appreciate it.

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1 hour ago, Kyle_The_Hill said:

The sweet spot for potential March friendlies, where a win is manageable and the amount of points gained would be impactful.

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Greece and Cyprus would be a good pair. minimal travel from one to the other and both are winnable games.

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It's too early to start a Gold Cup 2021 thread, so I will post this here:

http://www.goldcup.org/en/article/draw-delivers-matchups-for-2021-gold-cup-qualifying-matches

It looks like these games will have little effect on the teams ranked 7th to 14th in CONCACAF based on FIFA rankings.

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12 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

It's too early to start a Gold Cup 2021 thread, so I will post this here:

http://www.goldcup.org/en/article/draw-delivers-matchups-for-2021-gold-cup-qualifying-matches

It looks like these games will have little effect on the teams ranked 7th to 14th in CONCACAF based on FIFA rankings.

Too bad Montserrat gets Guatemala. I was hoping they would play Barbados or Bahamas in the first round. I’m really hoping to see them in the gold cup. 

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