Jump to content
Binky

The Road to Qatar.

Recommended Posts

Not sure who is watching the ES/DR game, but DR had a gift wrapped chance less than a minute into the game thanks to a sloppy back pass.  They also just had a great shot on goal that beat the keeper but not a defender.

Do I dare let myself hope...?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, dyslexic nam said:

Not sure who is watching the ES/DR game, but DR had a gift wrapped chance less than a minute into the game thanks to a sloppy back pass.  They also just had a great shot on goal that beat the keeper but not a defender.

Do I dare let myself hope...?

Not until much deeper into the match.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Kent said:

You are right. Nobody by the name of Davies in the lineup. Also, they didn't bother with any subs! I wonder if they were allowed back then? In fact, I wondered so much I looked it up after typing that, and it looks like they weren't "Substitution during games was first permitted in 1958." Clearly this is a rule that was made to give an advantage to Americans with their deeper player pool, much like the Gold Cup rules around bringing in new players after the group stage.

Canadian line up last time we beat USA in USA, back in 1957.

image.png.777a2997cbf649c1ad523409424b7c9e.png

Substitute reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substitute_(association_football)

Lot of great names on that team sheet. Topped off by the great Wolodymyr Zakaluzny lol.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Obinna said:

Looks like ES scored in the 15th minute...

Yup.  But DR has had some chances.  They are sloppy at the back so I wouldn't be surprised to to see ES score more, but DR does have the capacity to bang in one or two as well.  Setting aside the quirks and injustice of the format, it is appalling that ES is ranked higher than us.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looking ahead now to the Loser's tournament:

I think we can assume Panama, Haiti, Curacao and ourselves are the stronger sides, followed by Trinidad and Guatemala.

Then, there is a huge gap in quality with the rest. There is just no excuse for Concacaf not to have two Hexes now for a qualification system, like in Asia.  Hex winners qualify, second place play off, winner qualifies, loser plays off against winner of the loser's tournament.

Anyway, based on Nations League performances, I'd say the next tier is Bermuda, Guyana, Dominican Rep, Montserrat, Grenada, Surinam.  Everyone else is just happy to be there.

I think the best we can hope for is to be drawn in a group of 3, so we can still play friendlies each window. 

Next year will be a total waste.  Disgraceful. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

After taking 30 minutes to cool the f#ck down, I've gone straight back to straw clutching and math scenarios.  

We're not quite as "out of it" as I thought.  A win against Jamaica with a 10 multiplier is worth 6 points.  Win just two of those and we're three points back. 

If El Salvador really is playing Iceland in January and travelling to Europe in March then their 1346 is not safe.  They'll likely be playing middling opponents in Europe (no giant would play them) so each loss would likely drop them 4 to 5 points.  They could be back below 1340 by the end of March.

This is not done!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We have 4 friendlies to reach the hex. Playing concacaf teams is more beneficial for us versus say, UEFA teams. If anyone is going to lose points by losing to us we want it to be the likes of El Salvador. Playing these teams won’t hurt our prep either. I hope to See Panama, El Salvador, Jamaica and Honduras as friendlies. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Alex said:

We have 4 friendlies to reach the hex. Playing concacaf teams is more beneficial for us versus say, UEFA teams. If anyone is going to lose points by losing to us we want it to be the likes of El Salvador. Playing these teams won’t hurt our prep either. I hope to See Panama, El Salvador, Jamaica and Honduras as friendlies. 

Why would ES agree to play us?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Addona said:

Why would ES agree to play us?

They wouldn't. But I'd still like to see the CSA request a friendly against them and then immediately let the international media know about it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The easiest thing to schedule in March is two of Estonia/Lithuania/Latvia if the weather allows them to host.

Another idea would be Wales (in Wales) and a friendly vs a country like New Zealand on neutral ground in London.

Cyprus and Greece could be another combo.

Edited by Olympique_de_Marseille

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Step 1: January camp with MLS/CPL players.  If we can even get 3 or 4 games against some minnows with a 5 multiplier that could get us to 1335 heading into March.

Step 2: getting 10 points in March.  We could get 6 points from Jamaica and nearly 4 points from a Trinidad.  Jamaica has an inflated ranking and would likely field a weakened side.  That gets us nearly level with El Salvador.

Step 3: El Salvador loses in March on their European tour.  This could bring them back to the 1340 range.

Step 4:  If we're approximately level, we may be able to get El Salvador to play in June and decide this on the pitch.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

our best hope right now is to try and get our ranking close to ES to give us leverage to the point they can't refuse to play us, a scenario where beating us would 100% solidify their spot on the hex, but also run the risk of them not making the hex if they lose. the CSA has A LOT of work to do, ultimately our lack of friendlies is coming back to bite us in the ass, and the cheap bastards better acknowledge that and get to work in trying to fix it NOW

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You absolutely echo me there (regarding the lack of friendlies) and the pressure/hole the bloody CSA has now put themselves into!!!!!!😡

They have to be delusional if they sit on their laurels and provide no solution to the situation!!!!... Look where this stance has gotten them, to look no further!!!

CSA gotta leave all bloody frugality aside and right the ship on this!!!!.... We should all send in a petition, lmfao!!!! 😉

Edited by CANMNT_SUPERFAN

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, CANMNT_SUPERFAN said:

You absolutely echo me there (regarding the lack of friendlies) and the pressure/hole the bloody CSA has now put themselves into!!!!!!😡

They have to be delusional if they sit on their laurels and provide no solution to the situation!!!!... Look where this stance has gotten them, to look no further!!!

CSA gotta leave all bloody frugality aside and right the ship on this!!!!.... We should all send in a petition, lmfao!!!! 😉

This wasn't a problem until CONCACAF decided to use the FIFA rankings instead of the CONCACAF rankings.

 

Yeah the CSA is frugal because THEY HAVE NO MONEY! Did you know that at the end of 2017 the CSA had just $2.3 mil in cash on hand? Read it. It's in their 2017 Financial Statement.

 

That was in a year when nothing was going on. What money they had for this year went into preparing the women for the WWC. Next year, they'll be even more stretched with men's and women's Olympic qualifying.

 

Yet somehow, they're supposed to find money to (presumably) set up a training camp in Florida in January and play two friendlies. And not just that, after the WCQ schedule is announced, they have accept making less money so as to "reward" Halifax/Calgary/Winnipeg with a game.

 

I'm sorry, not just one game. Maybe two. Or three.

 

Give me a break.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hope we play a friendly vs Bulgaria. I've been there living her for 4 years and the banter between me and my friends would be great. Also because they are absolutely SHITE at the moment and I'm confident we could beat them. We played them 6 or 7 years ago IIRC and we drew 0-0. Winner keeps Yankov maybe :D ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, scullion44 said:

I hope we play a friendly vs Bulgaria. I've been there living her for 4 years and the banter between me and my friends would be great. Also because they are absolutely SHITE at the moment and I'm confident we could beat them. We played them 6 or 7 years ago IIRC and we drew 0-0. Winner keeps Yankov maybe :D ?

I want another match vs Macedonia (for family reasons).  Revenge from 10 years ago!  I still have nightmares about that match.... 

Macedonia has improved a lot this year, so I am still not confident Canada would beat them.  

Bulgaria would be interesting as well!

Edited by Buchta

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, Addona said:

Why would ES agree to play us?

They are already playing teams better than we are (Iceland, if the rumour is correct). They beat us last time we played them in Houston. Maybe because they think they are better? If they want to qualify for the HEX and we come knocking with a good friendly date, location they like I’m sure we will play them. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, setting aside the money issue (you know, cuz, no biggie...), what would a solid NA-based side look like if we were to pursue CONCACAF friendlies that were economical and didn't threaten the club positions of our European players (or just generally annoy their clubs)?

K - Crepeau, Carducci

CB - Henry, Cornelius, Zator, Didic, Jakovic?

RB - Laryea, ZBG

LB - Miller, (Kaye)

Centre Mids (def and attacking) - Eustaquio, Piette, Kaye, Oso, Chapman, Teibert

Wings - Tesho, Tabla, (Oso), Borges

Forwards - Cav, AJH, Ricketts

I know I am missing some, and it is possible that some of these guys might not be up for a minnow tour, but a team like that has to be good enough to get points against a lot of lower CONCACAF teams.  No idea if the Liga MX guys would want to be part of this, but i could see Eustaquio wanting to get some game time and wanting to integrate with the Nats. 

If the hex is the best path to WC 2022, it would be interesting to know the most economical way to squeeze in some friendlies.

  • For players out of season, do the games have to fall within international windows to get points or is that just a mechanism to ensure players are released?
  • Would it be cheaper to play a series of traveling away games (winter games would need to be away), or pay to fly visiting teams in  and get some limited gate revenue?
  • Basically, is it possible to do a thrift store version of some friendlies in a way that the CSA could afford and could get behind?
Edited by dyslexic nam

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...