Obinna Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Was there even a Hex back in 57? ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOCanada115 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) I can’t believe anyone in here would actually want to play in that rinky dink tournament. You’d rather pass up the opportunity to play the best in Concacaf (Mexico, USA, Costa Rica, Honduras, and Jamaica) home and away, to play against a bunch of bum teams for 6 matches? What will that prove? Even if Canada finishes 6th in the hex, at least we know where we stand, and will know where can improve. We will not improve playing those small nations. Also, the one thing Canada has been pretty damn good is winning at home. I’ll take my chances with those 5 teams, winning 3 games. And does anyone really believe that Canada in a home and away with Haiti/Curecao/Panama etc wouldn’t find a way to fuck it up on the road? Have people not learned? I’ll take a 10 game league over one bad road game away from being eliminated. Edited November 19, 2019 by TOCanada115 Kyle_The_Hill, lamptern, apbsmith and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, TOCanada115 said: I can’t believe anyone in here would actually want to play in that rinky dink tournament. You’d rather pass up the opportunity to play the best in Concacaf (Mexico, USA, Costa Rica, Honduras, and Jamaica) home and away, to play against a bunch of bum teams for 6 matches? What will that prove? Even if Canada finishes 6th in the hex, at least we know where we stand, and will know where can improve. We will not improve playing those small nations. Also, the one thing Canada has been pretty damn good is winning at home. I’ll take my chances with those 5 teams, winning 3 games. And does anyone really believe that Canada in a home and away with Haiti/Curecao/Panama etc wouldn’t find a way to **** it up on the road? Have people not learned? I’ll take a 10 game league over one bad road game away from being eliminated. This - so sick of watching us play minnows. The last few months were awesome - played Mexico, US twice. Way more captivating than watching us play Cuba and Belize Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFBF Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 ^ totally agree. Honestly If you give me the choice between placing last in the hex. Or have the opportunity to play in the long route. I would rather play in the hex. I give Canada no chance to make the world Cup from the long knockouts. We are too inconsistent and our fields to flat for true CONCACAF knockouts. On a side note, maybe we should train in Calgary... There's a bumpy field and a diving Honduran. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 This thread is way too confusing and depressing. I just think how JH specifically said that scheduling friendlies wouldnt be necessary. apbsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 56 minutes ago, Obinna said: Was there even a Hex back in 57? If there was, we found a way not to make it, apbsmith, Olympique_de_Marseille, ted and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Not sure who is watching the ES/DR game, but DR had a gift wrapped chance less than a minute into the game thanks to a sloppy back pass. They also just had a great shot on goal that beat the keeper but not a defender. Do I dare let myself hope...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, dyslexic nam said: Not sure who is watching the ES/DR game, but DR had a gift wrapped chance less than a minute into the game thanks to a sloppy back pass. They also just had a great shot on goal that beat the keeper but not a defender. Do I dare let myself hope...? Not until much deeper into the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, SthMelbRed said: Not until much deeper into the match. Until the 95th minute based on the Montserrat match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Well crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Kent said: You are right. Nobody by the name of Davies in the lineup. Also, they didn't bother with any subs! I wonder if they were allowed back then? In fact, I wondered so much I looked it up after typing that, and it looks like they weren't "Substitution during games was first permitted in 1958." Clearly this is a rule that was made to give an advantage to Americans with their deeper player pool, much like the Gold Cup rules around bringing in new players after the group stage. Canadian line up last time we beat USA in USA, back in 1957. Substitute reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substitute_(association_football) Lot of great names on that team sheet. Topped off by the great Wolodymyr Zakaluzny lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Looks like ES scored in the 15th minute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Obinna said: Looks like ES scored in the 15th minute... Yup. But DR has had some chances. They are sloppy at the back so I wouldn't be surprised to to see ES score more, but DR does have the capacity to bang in one or two as well. Setting aside the quirks and injustice of the format, it is appalling that ES is ranked higher than us. CANMNT_SUPERFAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Looking ahead now to the Loser's tournament: I think we can assume Panama, Haiti, Curacao and ourselves are the stronger sides, followed by Trinidad and Guatemala. Then, there is a huge gap in quality with the rest. There is just no excuse for Concacaf not to have two Hexes now for a qualification system, like in Asia. Hex winners qualify, second place play off, winner qualifies, loser plays off against winner of the loser's tournament. Anyway, based on Nations League performances, I'd say the next tier is Bermuda, Guyana, Dominican Rep, Montserrat, Grenada, Surinam. Everyone else is just happy to be there. I think the best we can hope for is to be drawn in a group of 3, so we can still play friendlies each window. Next year will be a total waste. Disgraceful. Corazon, Obinna, gator and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 After taking 30 minutes to cool the f#ck down, I've gone straight back to straw clutching and math scenarios. We're not quite as "out of it" as I thought. A win against Jamaica with a 10 multiplier is worth 6 points. Win just two of those and we're three points back. If El Salvador really is playing Iceland in January and travelling to Europe in March then their 1346 is not safe. They'll likely be playing middling opponents in Europe (no giant would play them) so each loss would likely drop them 4 to 5 points. They could be back below 1340 by the end of March. This is not done!! shamrock, johnyb, Obinna and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 We have 4 friendlies to reach the hex. Playing concacaf teams is more beneficial for us versus say, UEFA teams. If anyone is going to lose points by losing to us we want it to be the likes of El Salvador. Playing these teams won’t hurt our prep either. I hope to See Panama, El Salvador, Jamaica and Honduras as friendlies. Addona 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Alex said: We have 4 friendlies to reach the hex. Playing concacaf teams is more beneficial for us versus say, UEFA teams. If anyone is going to lose points by losing to us we want it to be the likes of El Salvador. Playing these teams won’t hurt our prep either. I hope to See Panama, El Salvador, Jamaica and Honduras as friendlies. Why would ES agree to play us? CanadianSoccerFan and JamboAl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Addona said: Why would ES agree to play us? They wouldn't. But I'd still like to see the CSA request a friendly against them and then immediately let the international media know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, BrennanFan said: They wouldn't. But I'd still like to see the CSA request a friendly against them and then immediately let the international media know about it. I’m sure newsrooms across the globe would be set aflame with that bombshell Addona, RS, Kent and 11 others 4 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) The easiest thing to schedule in March is two of Estonia/Lithuania/Latvia if the weather allows them to host. Another idea would be Wales (in Wales) and a friendly vs a country like New Zealand on neutral ground in London. Cyprus and Greece could be another combo. Edited November 20, 2019 by Olympique_de_Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Step 1: January camp with MLS/CPL players. If we can even get 3 or 4 games against some minnows with a 5 multiplier that could get us to 1335 heading into March. Step 2: getting 10 points in March. We could get 6 points from Jamaica and nearly 4 points from a Trinidad. Jamaica has an inflated ranking and would likely field a weakened side. That gets us nearly level with El Salvador. Step 3: El Salvador loses in March on their European tour. This could bring them back to the 1340 range. Step 4: If we're approximately level, we may be able to get El Salvador to play in June and decide this on the pitch. Club Linesman and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 our best hope right now is to try and get our ranking close to ES to give us leverage to the point they can't refuse to play us, a scenario where beating us would 100% solidify their spot on the hex, but also run the risk of them not making the hex if they lose. the CSA has A LOT of work to do, ultimately our lack of friendlies is coming back to bite us in the ass, and the cheap bastards better acknowledge that and get to work in trying to fix it NOW Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANMNT_SUPERFAN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) You absolutely echo me there (regarding the lack of friendlies) and the pressure/hole the bloody CSA has now put themselves into!!!!!!😡 They have to be delusional if they sit on their laurels and provide no solution to the situation!!!!... Look where this stance has gotten them, to look no further!!! CSA gotta leave all bloody frugality aside and right the ship on this!!!!.... We should all send in a petition, lmfao!!!! 😉 Edited November 20, 2019 by CANMNT_SUPERFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle_The_Hill Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Final rankings after November window. CANMNT_SUPERFAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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