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On 8/9/2019 at 7:34 PM, nolando said:

 

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Yes, that's exactly what it's like living in a country, whose national soccer association and national team coach do not want the national men's soccer team to be a top-6 CONCACAF country.

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On 8/9/2019 at 10:23 PM, Binky said:

What's this @Binky sh_t? There is no  @Binky. Just Binky! I not on the twitter, and I don't do Facebook, and I also don't own a smart phone, or post on one, or watch streamed soccer games on one. I'm just an old fashioned big-screen commercial broadcast kinda guy. As to when it comes to copying and pasting no-discernible-value stuff, I find that there is a whole bunch of worse no-discernible-value stuff that gets posted on this board than the statistical material that I post. So my answer to you is, respectfully, NO!

Might I respectfully suggest you invest in a MacBook Air, or a MacBook Pro, and that way you will not experience the frustrations one has to put up with when depending so heavily on a smartphone!

Sorry to tell you old man but this site is social media and you are a trendy hipster no matter how much you dislike it.

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Has it been confirmed that they will even rank the teams 1-8 in the non-hex side? Everywhere I have read says it will be a draw, maybe I missed it?

I'm hoping they seed it into 2 pots 1-4 & 5-8 or set up the entire tournament ranking format #1-#8. From what I'm understanding though is there will be draws after every round of the 8 team tournament? 

With CONCACAF who knows what they decided, but there could potentially be some very sweaty 1st round matchups for some countries, if the draw is not seeded.

 

 

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It looks like Honduras has their September friendlies confirmed since they don't start Nations League until October. Elo lists them as playing 2 home matches, September 5th against Puerto Rico and September 10th against Chile.

If our Nations League match against Cuba is only expected to earn us around 3 FIFA points, Honduras will earn even less than that since their match is only a friendly. If their match against Chile goes how you'd think it would, hopefully they lose more points than they gain and they finish the September window lower than 1350 points.

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If I was someone at Canada Soccer looking at friendly results within CONCACAF and comparing them to the current FIFA rankings so that I could try and maximize our points to get us closer to the top 6, I would be thinking that the group of 3 countries right underneath Curacao and Haiti (Trinidad and Tobago, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis) would be ideal opponents if you don't want to set up a friendly with a country you're also competing with for a top 6 spot. Those 3 countries are just 3, 4, and 5 spots below us in the FIFA rankings so they would be the next best thing.

We defeated Trinidad and Tobago 2-0 in the closed door friendly and Saint Kitts and Nevis 1-0 in Nations League Qualifying. Saint Kitts and Nevis just hosted Antigua and Barbuda for 2 matches the last 3 days and defeated them 3-0 and 4-3. They would be ideal opponents, if possible, at some point before June 2020 and would earn us more points than minnows, who we shouldn't be considering anyway.

Those 3 countries aren't available for the October or November window unfortunately where we need to have a 2nd match scheduled. Saint Kitts and Nevis and Antigua and Barbuda both have 2 Nations League matches in October and November. Trinidad and Tobago was available for a 2nd match in October until Mexico snapped them up for an early October friendly. Panama and Curacao (currently ranked 7th and 9th in CONCACAF) each only had 1 October match (Nations League), but they have created a 2nd match for themselves by playing a friendly against each other on October 10. The clock is ticking to get a 2nd October match set up, and within our own region, the number of good, comparable teams available are diminishing.

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17 minutes ago, Club Linesman said:

Don't hold your breathe.  We need to win out (or close to it) in Nations League to have a hope in hell of making the top 6.

This especially with Jamaica in group B playing lesser opponents. The reggae boys drew a nice card with them not getting into League A of CNL. 

They'll most likely stay in the top 6.

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Posted (edited)

I have a legit question.. what's in it for the US as far as Nations League goes. If we beat them twice is it possible they drop out of the top 6?

I ask because I think they genuinely dont look very good and they could get caught between 2 minds. They kinda need Bradley and Altidore but it's also kinda pointless to play them at the moment because they'll be past it come Qatar

Edited by SpursFlu

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43 minutes ago, SpursFlu said:

I have a legit question.. what's in it for the US as far as Nations League goes. If we beat them twice is it possible they drop out of the top 6?

I ask because I think they genuinely dont look very good and they could get caught between 2 minds. They kinda need Bradley and Altidore but it's also kinda pointless to play them at the moment because they'll be past it come Qatar

I dont think they could even fall that far.

They are ranked 22 and Costa Rica are 43 I think and Jamaica are 57 or something. Even if they lose all their games I don't think they can slip that far.

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8 hours ago, Shway said:

This especially with Jamaica in group B playing lesser opponents. The reggae boys drew a nice card with them not getting into League A of CNL. 

They'll most likely stay in the top 6.

Again showing how asinine these League A's and B's are given they mean jack **** now. 

Edited by grigorio

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22 minutes ago, PopePouri said:

We still should have been playing friendlies to develop as a cohesive unit and bring in different sets of players to test out their full abilities. 

This still isn't an excuse for one friendly in 18 months.

If the CSA's logic was "we're already guarantted the hex so we don't need to play any friendlies" then that was flat out wrong. Friendlies should have been played regardless. 

Edited by king1010

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5 minutes ago, king1010 said:

We still should have been playing friendlies to develop as a cohesive unit and bring in different sets of players to test out their full abilities. 

This still isn't an excuse for one friendly in 18 months.

If the CSA's logic was "we're already guarantted the hex so we don't need to play any friendlies" then that was flat out wrong. Friendlies should have been played regardless. 

And U-23 camps, and a camp poutine whether we had a game or not.  

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“We were originally notified that it was a CONCACAF-rankings table and we were tracking everything and building all our planning on the CONCACAF rankings, and that’s what had originally been presented when the Nations League was formally presented to the member associations,” Herdman said in a conference call with a select group of media outlets Wednesday announcing the squad selection for the game against Cuba. “That changed in July 2019. So we woke up one morning and the rankings table isn’t there anymore, it’s gone. We changed gears, that’s in the past and the future is the future now. We’re focused now on what we can control and what we have to do now to put ourselves in the best position to qualify for the HEX (top-six).”

I'm glad the boss still wants us to make the top 6 and make the Hex, at least try. Herdman still executed to be in the top 6 in CONCACAF rankings and originally make the hex. These 2 matches vs Cuba would have gotten us tons of CONCACAF points & 1 result vs USA and we probably in. What an annoyance, additional annoyance is we played FG & Martinique basically earning 0 Fifa points.

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4 minutes ago, apbsmith said:

“We were originally notified that it was a CONCACAF-rankings table and we were tracking everything and building all our planning on the CONCACAF rankings, and that’s what had originally been presented when the Nations League was formally presented to the member associations,” Herdman said in a conference call with a select group of media outlets Wednesday announcing the squad selection for the game against Cuba. “That changed in July 2019. So we woke up one morning and the rankings table isn’t there anymore, it’s gone. We changed gears, that’s in the past and the future is the future now. We’re focused now on what we can control and what we have to do now to put ourselves in the best position to qualify for the HEX (top-six).”

I'm glad the boss still wants us to make the top 6 and make the Hex, at least try. Herdman still executed to be in the top 6 in CONCACAF rankings and originally make the hex. These 2 matches vs Cuba would have gotten us tons of CONCACAF points & 1 result vs USA and we probably in. What an annoyance, additional annoyance is we played FG & Martinique basically earning 0 Fifa points.

If FIFA Rankings are the only  acceptable way to seed teams for WCQ then CONCACAF really needs to somehow address allowing non FIFA members into Gold Cup and Nations League. There just isn't a level playing field if teams are playing one maybe two games a tournament against non FIFA opponents. 

Edited by king1010

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35 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said:

I’m sorry, but what? Herdman is supposed to be the man on top of everything and focused on details is he not?  Probably should have thought this one out better.

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4 hours ago, king1010 said:

If FIFA Rankings are the only  acceptable way to seed teams for WCQ then CONCACAF really needs to somehow address allowing non FIFA members into Gold Cup and Nations League. There just isn't a level playing field if teams are playing one maybe two games a tournament against non FIFA opponents. 

I'd like to see non-FIFA members removed from CONCACAF official competitions. Either throw off the colonial shackles and be a nation on your own, at least for football purposes, or stand down and stick to being a provincial outpost for the French/Dutch.

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22 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said:

I'd like to see non-FIFA members removed from CONCACAF official competitions. Either throw off the colonial shackles and be a nation on your own, at least for football purposes, or stand down and stick to being a provincial outpost for the French/Dutch.

It does seem odd that they can be official enough to be recognized by CONCACAF as a legit footy nation, but not official enough to be treated that way by FIFA. 

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Herdman: “Then, at the same time, we weren’t taking FIFA games in those windows because our priority was to gather those ranking points."

Absolute hot garbage. Every other Concacaf team was playing friendlies in those windows as well, to gain FIFA points, to get better, because every serious team always plays two games in a FIFA window. We sat idle. We cheaped out. And we got screwed in the end.  

We are not victims of circumstance, we are the authors of our own misfortune.

Edited by BrennanFan

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2 hours ago, CanadaFan123 said:

I’m sorry, but what? Herdman is supposed to be the man on top of everything and focused on details is he not?  Probably should have thought this one out better.

Kinda hard to plan for being given incorrect info.

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57 minutes ago, BrennanFan said:

We are not victims of circumstance, we are the authors of our own misfortune.

Why not both?

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