narduch Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, SoccMan said: So TSN has the rights to Qatar 2022 are they showing any of the World Cup qualifiers like the UEFA World Cup qualifiers for example? If not is anyone showing these qualifiers here in Canada ? I checked their schedule and it doesn't look like it. The only way to legally watch WCQ in Canada appears to be: -One Soccer (Canada matches) -TLN (Italy and Portugal matches) -Uefa.TV app (a handful of Euro qualifiers). I couldn't find anything on Sportsnet or DAZN schedules either. nfitz and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, narduch said: I checked their schedule and it doesn't look like it. The only way to legally watch WCQ in Canada appears to be: -One Soccer (Canada matches) -TLN (Italy and Portugal matches) -Uefa.TV app (a handful of Euro qualifiers). I couldn't find anything on Sportsnet or DAZN schedules either. I remember when a lot of World Cup qualifying games for the last World Cup could be seen on either TSN and Sportsnet, it looks like soccer coverage is going backwards rather than forward on our two main sports stations unfortunately. johnyb, narduch, NVsoccer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SoccMan said: I remember when a lot of World Cup qualifying games for the last World Cup could be seen on either TSN and Sportsnet, it looks like soccer coverage is going backwards rather than forward on our two main sports stations unfortunately. Definitely going backwards, no doubt about that one. Not long ago one could at least routinely see soccer being played on weekend afternoons, now it's hard to even know it exists. Hardly any games or mentions on the highlight shows. I don't know if they're doubling down on more hockey or if the viewer ratings show less interest in soccer. Perhaps they focus on hockey and just add other sports which are more convenient as "fillers" and less expensive to broadcast? Either way, I feel their vision does not have much space or plan for soccer. Edited March 24, 2021 by costarg narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I want to add that Onesoccer is doing a great job. I really like the service. Its got room to grow for sure but if it can add a few more properties I think it could really flourish. Maybe African or South American qualifiers? CanadaFan123, JuicyHam, NVsoccer and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Checked BeIn's schedule and they don't appear to be showing anything either. Although I think they have South America WCQ which was canceled. They are showing Africa Cup of Nations qualifiers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I’m guessing they were getting the rights to soccer matches at ridiculously cheap prices because there was really no competition. Now that they have to bud against streaming services, they are not willing to pay up to keep the rights. Kind of ridiculous that they can’t beat out a start up like One Soccer for the rights, but it shows their lack of interest in acquiring rights to Canadian soccer. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, archer21 said: I’m guessing they were getting the rights to soccer matches at ridiculously cheap prices because there was really no competition. Now that they have to bud against streaming services, they are not willing to pay up to keep the rights. Kind of ridiculous that they can’t beat out a start up like One Soccer for the rights, but it shows their lack of interest in acquiring rights to Canadian soccer. I've criticised TSN plenty in the past but there is far more nuance to it than that. Listen from the 5:00 mark in this podcast and the frosty relations between TSN and mediapro will make sense. https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mb290YmFsbHRvZGF5LmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz/episode/MDU4YWNiMGMtOTljOC00M2I4LWE5NDEtOThiNzFjODk2NmI2?ep=14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: I've criticised TSN plenty in the past but there is far more nuance to it than that. Listen from the 5:00 mark in this podcast and the frosty relations between TSN and mediapro will make sense. https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mb290YmFsbHRvZGF5LmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz/episode/MDU4YWNiMGMtOTljOC00M2I4LWE5NDEtOThiNzFjODk2NmI2?ep=14 That talks about MediaPro’s strategy in France, with a public that would demand access to Ligue 1 content. Sure it seems aggressive but I am not sure how that equates to Canada and the TSN’s almost absolute ignoring of CPL. Unless there is clear evidence that MediaPro is trying to grossly overcharge our established national sports networks for CanCon (and the fact that CBC managed to get access to some games suggests the pricing was likely accessible), I am not convinced. I would put far more emphasis on the fact that TSN is currently all-in with MLS which they would see as a competing product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: I've criticised TSN plenty in the past but there is far more nuance to it than that. Listen from the 5:00 mark in this podcast and the frosty relations between TSN and mediapro will make sense. https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mb290YmFsbHRvZGF5LmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz/episode/MDU4YWNiMGMtOTljOC00M2I4LWE5NDEtOThiNzFjODk2NmI2?ep=14 If their strategy was to make TSN overpay for the rights because Canadians would demand they show the games, Mediapro was pretty uninformed about that decision. JuicyHam and CanadianSoccerFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: That talks about MediaPro’s strategy in France, with a public that would demand access to Ligue 1 content. Sure it seems aggressive but I am not sure how that equates to Canada and the TSN’s almost absolute ignoring of CPL. Unless there is clear evidence that MediaPro is trying to grossly overcharge our established national sports networks for CanCon (and the fact that CBC managed to get access to some games suggests the pricing was likely accessible), I am not convinced. I would put far more emphasis on the fact that TSN is currently all-in with MLS which they would see as a competing product. I get all that but these mainstream sports channels TSN and Sportsnet have more or less stopped showing a lot of soccer , EPL, UEFA Champions League, European World Cup Qualifying yes they are still showing MLS but it’s only a matter of time when they stop showing that too. Therefore, soccer is no longer of interest to them it seems, good luck with these two stations showing CPL anytime soon . Eventually the World Cup and European Cup will be gone too. Out of sight out of mind . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: That talks about MediaPro’s strategy in France, with a public that would demand access to Ligue 1 content. Sure it seems aggressive but I am not sure how that equates to Canada and the TSN’s almost absolute ignoring of CPL. Unless there is clear evidence that MediaPro is trying to grossly overcharge our established national sports networks for CanCon (and the fact that CBC managed to get access to some games suggests the pricing was likely accessible), I am not convinced. I would put far more emphasis on the fact that TSN is currently all-in with MLS which they would see as a competing product. It's mentioned they've employed the same business tactics in all jurisdictions. France is the one jurisdiction where it didn't work and their bluff was called. I'm sure mediapro had no shortage of ignorance to the dynamics of the Canadian market. TSN's burying of CPL makes complete sense in the context of negotiation. Nothing is free, including exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Mediapro has been credited with helping the US streaming services put together an excellent package of Concacaf WCQ. They aren't the villains people are making them out to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) The reddit soccerstreams site (you can google for the exact link I don't know what the policy here is) should have most if not all the CONCACAF qualfiiers today. I just finished watching Turkey and the Netherlands on it. Wild game. Edited March 24, 2021 by VinceA johnyb and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, costarg said: Definitely going backwards, no doubt about that one. Not long ago one could at least routinely see soccer being played on weekend afternoons, now it's hard to even know it exists. Hardly any games or mentions on the highlight shows. I don't know if they're doubling down on more hockey or if the viewer ratings show less interest in soccer. Perhaps they focus on hockey and just add other sports which are more convenient as "fillers" and less expensive to broadcast? Either way, I feel their vision does not have much space or plan for soccer. Only things that have completely disappeared off Cdn tv is the EPL & Euro Champions League. But you can still catch an EPL match on most Saturday afternoons on NBC. Less on Cdn tv has been Cdn national team matches and WC qualifiers. Adds have been Bundesliga on Sportsnet, WSL on Sportsnet, and some CPL matches on CBC/CHCH. If you have Roku or certain smart tvs, BEIN Extra gives you free access to certain la ligue, Super Lig, la liga, Sudamericano and various AFC competitions from Champions League to u20 to Nations Cup to AFCON qualifiers. All NWSL matches will now be on CBS and free on Twitch. uefa.tv has any Euro competitions for free without any rights holder in Canada. Remaining the same are FA Cup on Sportsnet, TLN with 6 Serie A matches every weekend and la liga/ligue 1/Euro women's Champions League/Libertadores on BEIN. TV5 still has 1 ligue 1 match. Men's and women's World Cup, Euros and MLS are still on TSN/RDS/TVA. Olympic soccer remains on CBC/TSN/Sportsnet. Euro qualifiers were on TSN but for some reason have passed on Euro WC qualifiers so far. So, net net, the icing has disappeared but there is more than enough different types of cakes to sample than ever before. Pay for one streaming service, you get the icing back. Pay for two, you get your choice of icing. Trawl the internet for streams, you'll be eating cake for breakfast, lunch, tea & dinner. Edited March 24, 2021 by red card johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Suriname game is on YouTube johnyb, red card, Obinna and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Apparently there is no TV for Puerto Rico and Saint Kitts which is a shame. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 More covid issues. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 St. Kitts leading Puerto Rico 1-0 at the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 38 minutes ago, narduch said: More covid issues. I don’t see what other choice they have other than a forfeit? It really sucks and god forbid that something like this happens to a team with would actually be in a position to qualify like Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Floortom said: I don’t see what other choice they have other than a forfeit? It really sucks and god forbid that something like this happens to a team with would actually be in a position to qualify like Canada They are also supposed to play Bermuda 3 days after their Suriname match. I guess there is always a remote chance of a reschedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Suriname starting line up Cayman line up according to Fifa: David Lee (GK) Joshewa FREDERICK-CHARLERY Ackeem Hyde Wesley ROBINSON D'Andre Rowe Mason Duval Cameron Gray Jermaine Wilson Tyler Lee Trey Ebanks Gunnar Studenhofft Edited March 24, 2021 by narduch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, narduch said: Suriname starting line up What happened to guys like Biseswar and Jozefzoon? to be honest that is a step up from a minnow starting line up but not overly impressive narduch and Alex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, Floortom said: What happened to guys like Biseswar and Jozefzoon? to be honest that is a step up from a minnow starting line up but not overly impressive My guess is Covid restrictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Or could be saving them for Aruba. Cayman Islands is a walkover for any semi-serious team. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Not exactly a game that's expected to be great but the Montserrat FA is livestreaming their game vs Antigua and Barbuda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn70jjZMIHo narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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