jtpc Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 If Trinidad and Tobago has to forfeit any of their WCQ matches and doesn't advance from Group F, imagine the path to the Octagonal for the winner of Group A. If all the top seeds from the first round advance, they were already going to get the lowest-ranked top seed anyway in round two, but if that team is out, you win your first round group and all that stands between you and the Octagonal is a home and away series win against a country that's not even in the top 11 in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 1:34 PM, Olympique_de_Marseille said: So, unless COVID19 spoils the established schedule (very likely folks!), it would be: Thursday, October 8th: Canada vs Bermuda Sunday, October 11th: Cayman Islands vs Canada Saturday, November 14th: Aruba vs Canada Tuesday, November 17th: Canada vs Suriname Ya, as we all expected, those dates are almost certainly not happening. The Cayman Islands don't think so: https://www.caymancompass.com/2020/08/27/caymans-world-cup-qualifying-campaign-may-be-postponed/ At best they should cancel the October window and make the November one longer. At worse (or if FIFA gets smart), this first round needs to be played in a bubble in one country. Everyone arrives and isolates for 12 days (not 14 it's a waste of time but I don't think Canada will switch their quarantine rules*) with testing if required. The games are played over a period of 16 days. *https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-basicshttps://hub.jhu.edu/2020/03/09/coronavirus-incubation-period/ narduch, nolando, Shway and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I haven't been really looking but its nice to see the Cayman Islands being so blunt about the prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Ya, as we all expected, those dates are almost certainly not happening. The Cayman Islands don't think so: https://www.caymancompass.com/2020/08/27/caymans-world-cup-qualifying-campaign-may-be-postponed/ At best they should cancel the October window and make the November one longer. At worse (or if FIFA gets smart), this first round needs to be played in a bubble in one country. Everyone arrives and isolates for 12 days (not 14 it's a waste of time but I don't think Canada will switch their quarantine rules*) with testing if required. The games are played over a period of 16 days. *https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-basicshttps://hub.jhu.edu/2020/03/09/coronavirus-incubation-period/ I am constantly amazed at the info you are able to dig up. Thanks for this! It’s nice to know there is at least one confederation that is looking into if this is actually possible. Olympique_de_Marseille and Shway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) People aren't really scared anymore and as more and more things start to happen it will be tough for people to shut things down. They are getting creative. But ultimately I think Oct 1 seems to be a benchmark date that enough has already taken place successfully that things will be fine. Fingers crossed right guys Edited August 28, 2020 by SpursFlu johnyb and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, SpursFlu said: People aren't really scared anymore and as more and more things start to happen it will be tough for people to shut things down. They are getting creative. But ultimately I think Oct 1 seems to be a benchmark date that enough has already taken place successfully that things will be fine. Fingers crossed right guys Eventually that will be true. But not this calendar year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 hours ago, SpursFlu said: People aren't really scared anymore and as more and more things start to happen it will be tough for people to shut things down. They are getting creative. But ultimately I think Oct 1 seems to be a benchmark date that enough has already taken place successfully that things will be fine. Fingers crossed right guys Yea if everyone turns off their American media outlets ...but that can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) I think I read that uefa has/is/will/maybe put in a rule that if a team is willing to come play you and your government won't allow the team to enter without quarantine you forfeit. Spurs fans were complaining cuz they have europa qualifiers coming up but I like the rule. It might force teams to play both legs away or arrange an alternate location. Same thing could happen here Edited August 28, 2020 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: I think I read that uefa has/is/will/maybe put in a rule that if a team is willing to come play you and your government won't allow the team to enter without quarantine you forfeit. Spurs fans were complaining cuz they have europa qualifiers coming up but I like the rule. It might force teams to play both legs away or arrange an alternate location. Same thing could happen here If my public health officials say no to a team entering the country due to Covid concerns, then no football confederation or FA is going to make me let them in. Forfeit it is! And that includes Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, JamboAl said: If my public health officials say no to a team entering the country due to Covid concerns, then no football confederation or FA is going to make me let them in. Forfeit it is! And that includes Canada. Yah exactly because conversely a public health official let the other team in to their country. Its gonna start to look real strange when a team travels to country and plays normally in front of a crowd and the return leg can't be played or without fans. Just saying Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/25/2020 at 10:11 AM, Floortom said: Outside of Wells (clearly their best player by far), would Bermuda be hurt that much? Most of their players are domestic. Wells wants to play us! http://www.royalgazette.com/soccer/article/20200828/best-is-yet-to-come-says-wells ----------------------------- Trinidad (obviously) want qualifiers postponed: https://www.guardian.co.tt/sports/look-loy-wants-concacaf-qualifiers-postponed-6.2.1191894.9204434df3 An El Salvador player is talking about how he doubts CONCACAF's current protocols: https://us.as.com/us/2020/08/23/futbol/1598216007_391401.html The pressure is mounting on CONCACAF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: Yah exactly because conversely a public health official let the other team in to their country. Its gonna start to look real strange when a team travels to country and plays normally in front of a crowd and the return leg can't be played or without fans. Just saying I think this is where UEFA has mandated no crowds period. This actually could work in our favour (I’m looking at you Honduras). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, JamboAl said: I think this is where UEFA has mandated no crowds period. This actually could work in our favour (I’m looking at you Honduras). I don't think they have mandated no crowds outside of the visitors hotels all night banging drums. Olympique_de_Marseille, Kadenge and JamboAl 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, JamboAl said: I think this is where UEFA has mandated no crowds period. This actually could work in our favour (I’m looking at you Honduras). so a team will play in front of packed house on Saturday and no fans on Thursday. I guess the point is to keep the shocking spectical of fans in stands off our TV screens. An even stranger concept For instance I watched the Jeff Horn Tim Tszyu fight from Australia yesterday and I was caught off guard to see like 10k people crammed together enjoying the fight. Very surprising Edited August 28, 2020 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Wells wants to play us! http://www.royalgazette.com/soccer/article/20200828/best-is-yet-to-come-says-wells Wells is quality. He's scored against big teams (Mexico, El Salvador, Panama, Costa Rica) and drawn penalties with very little service. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, Ruffian said: I don't think they have mandated no crowds outside of the visitors hotels all night banging drums. Hahaha.. it would probably look something like this but at 3am Olympique_de_Marseille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Or like this (It was Panama) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: so a team will play in front of packed house on Saturday and no fans on Thursday. I guess the point is to keep the shocking spectical of fans in stands off our TV screens. An even stranger concept For instance I watched the Jeff Horn Tim Tszyu fight from Australia yesterday and I was caught off guard to see like 10k people crammed together enjoying the fight. Very surprising This is what is happening with the UEFA Nations League and the club competitions. I’ve also watched 30,000 crammed into Super Rugby in New Zealand. That is perfectly fine as it is a domestic competition and they had a good grasp of the situation. But no way the NZ government allows a foreign team onto its soil without significant assurances. I’m perfectly fine with our government doing the same. Edited August 28, 2020 by JamboAl kacbru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Germany just announced no fans until at least end of October and no large gatherings until 2021. Canada just extended travel restrictions until end of September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, JamboAl said: This is what is happening with the UEFA Nations League and the club competitions. I’ve also watched 30,000 crammed into Super Rugby in New Zealand. That is perfectly fine as it is a domestic competition and they had a good grasp of the situation. But no way the NZ government allows a foreign team onto its soil without significant assurances. I’m perfectly fine with our government doing the same. Yah most leagues seem to be coming back Oct 1. Some already have. Was surprised to see a pretty big crowd for that Lille game I think England have fans back for a few games this weekend as a trial Yah its crazy how few deaths there have been in Australia. But to their credit im not sure I've ever met a fat Aussie. Good for them Edited August 28, 2020 by SpursFlu Obinna and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: Yah most leagues seem to be coming back Oct 1. Some already have. Was surprised to see a pretty big crowd for that Lille game I think England have fans back for a few games this weekend as a trial Yah its crazy how few deaths there have been in Australia. But to their credit im not sure I've ever met a fat Aussie. Good for them This is probably why the US mortality rate was so high. I too was surprised by the Lille crowd, in a good way. Once they demonstrate success with limited crowds it won’t be long until other clubs and leagues do the same. Nice to see things returning back to normal. Good for the bottom line of clubs. Good for the game. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, Obinna said: This is probably why the US mortality rate was so high. I too was surprised by the Lille crowd, in a good way. Once they demonstrate success with limited crowds it won’t be long until other clubs and leagues do the same. Nice to see things returning back to normal. Good for the bottom line of clubs. Good for the game. Cultural gatherings are very important to a community. Sport, music, art, dance, food, religious, family etc etc. Very essential Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 5 hours ago, SpursFlu said: so a team will play in front of packed house on Saturday and no fans on Thursday. I guess the point is to keep the shocking spectical of fans in stands off our TV screens. An even stranger concept For instance I watched the Jeff Horn Tim Tszyu fight from Australia yesterday and I was caught off guard to see like 10k people crammed together enjoying the fight. Very surprising The fight was held in north Queensland. Queensland has had very few cases for several months and has its border closed to anyone from out of state. They allow limited crowds for events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 49 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said: The fight was held in north Queensland. Queensland has had very few cases for several months and has its border closed to anyone from out of state. They allow limited crowds for events. Cool.. side not for boxing fans. Tim Tszyu fantastic talent. Totally reminded me of his father. One to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin Radd Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Possible solution to the 14 day quarantine. At least for incoming travelers. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/airport-covid-test-quarantine-1.5703716 Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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