Club Linesman Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Unfortunately for us everything is based on potential so I believe we can both be thinking World Cup qualification while still worrying about the Surinames and Bermudas of the world. On paper we should roll through the first round but the reality is we lost to Haiti and the US when the stakes were high, so our actual results don’t inspire unwavering confidence in the team. When we are truly top 4 in Concacaf consistently, then our focus will/should be on how far we will go in the World Cup. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redpunkfiddle Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, TFC2017 said: I'm not sure if any of you caught this part but at the end of the presentation they were going over who they thought the final 3 spots would go to. As in, who they thought would finish top 3 in the "Octogonal". Not a single person mentioned Canada, not even as a dark horse. That pissed me off. I hope that the players heard that at the end and it lit a fire underneath them. We have the talent to come top 3, I believe in them and I hope that everyone on this board believes in them but more importantly I hope that the players believe in themselves. This really is a strong Canadian team. You mean the opinions of two former players, including David Suazo who picked Honduras to finish top of the Octagonal? I would not sweat those deep thoughts. The host was even chuckling. Addona and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 What's with all the fear? If we can't get it done with David and Davies...we have massive issues. I don't buy it, this young generation don't carry the stigmata of the past They gets this done Watchmen, A Different Perspective, Shway and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redpunkfiddle Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, xabuep2 said: Right in the window of January 2022 that Canada could take advantage of the weather, it will be his turn to play 2 matches away. I've started to come around to the theory that the cold for us isn't the same advantage as the heat for the Central American and Caribbean teams. I think we actually get more net benefit having away games during colder periods. Edited August 19, 2020 by Redpunkfiddle Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) I don’t think it’s a tough draw but it’s definitely the worst draw we could’ve gotten. Edited August 19, 2020 by SkuseisLoose dnina10, CanadianSoccerFan and johnyb 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scullion44 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, top cheese said: Tough draw? If Canada can’t make it out that group. It doesn’t deserve to go to any world cup Is anyone actually saying it's a tough draw? Your comment is the first one I saw. If so that's a bit nuts. Edited August 19, 2020 by scullion44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, TFC2017 said: I'm not sure if any of you caught this part but at the end of the presentation they were going over who they thought the final 3 spots would go to. As in, who they thought would finish top 3 in the "Octogonal". Not a single person mentioned Canada, not even as a dark horse. That pissed me off. I hope that the players heard that at the end and it lit a fire underneath them. We have the talent to come top 3, I believe in them and I hope that everyone on this board believes in them but more importantly I hope that the players believe in themselves. This really is a strong Canadian team. I think it's fair. I never expect any of them to pick a team not already in the Octagonal. Also, wasn't one of them legendary Honduran international David Suazo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, One American said: Have the Wikipedia ringers for Suriname actually committed to play for them? I see a lot of zero caps on most or all of the scary ones. It does look like they have a couple of Israeli league players already in the fold. Ryan Donk of Galatasaray has 0 goals in 0 caps for Suriname. I am sure chemistry will not be an issue for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbacons Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Even if Suriname has some good names on its roster, they've never played together on the same team. At least we have a roster of players that have mostly played together in Nations League, Gold Cup, friendlies and some together on the same club teams. Obinna, Club Linesman and Fullback 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 52 minutes ago, Redpunkfiddle said: You mean the opinions of two former players, including David Suazo who picked Honduras to finish top of the Octagonal? I would not sweat those deep thoughts. The host was even chuckling. Yeah and the other player was a Bermudan I think, so yeah, not getting any Canada predictions from those two lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto Ruffrider Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 This draw is alright. I actually think Group C is tougher overall - Curaçao is not a team to be taken lightly, and Guatemala is a bit of a wild card. Even Cuba and St. V&G aren't totally bad. I get that this will be a new Suriname team, but just treat them like Guadeloupe or Martinique: take them seriously. I feel like we tend to lose games when we lose sight of our opponent's skill level. Just take care of business. If we can't beat Suriname, we shouldn't even entertain the possibility of qualification to Qatar. cronaldo7, A Different Perspective, red card and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC2017 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Redpunkfiddle said: You mean the opinions of two former players, including David Suazo who picked Honduras to finish top of the Octagonal? I would not sweat those deep thoughts. The host was even chuckling. 43 minutes ago, Obinna said: I think it's fair. I never expect any of them to pick a team not already in the Octagonal. Also, wasn't one of them legendary Honduran international David Suazo? You guys are right, they were biased opinions but Idk maybe it was just me, to not even mention Canada when we have a 20 year old who will be a starter in the Champions League final and a 20 year old striker who was a record-breaking transfer for Lille. It was just a little annoying to me that we didn't even get a mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, TFC2017 said: You guys are right, they were biased opinions but Idk maybe it was just me, to not even mention Canada when we have a 20 year old who will be a starter in the Champions League final and a 20 year old striker who was a record-breaking transfer for Lille. It was just a little annoying to me that we didn't even get a mention. Suazo mentioned us and Panama as favorites for the Octagonal, so there's that. TFC2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cronaldo7 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Understood that there are some teams that pose a threat but we need to change our mentality. I know we don’t have the results to completely justify that but this is a new generation of players that are doing big things. As fans, let’s get excited and believe. It is good to be prepared, it will not be a walk in the park by any means. But to fear these nations is a different story. We will not fear anyone in Concacaf except for the teams that have truly deserved that respect and that’s Mexico and the Americans (and we just happened to play them off the park at home). I think the boys mentality is right and that’s thanks to Herdman. He brought a confidence and a swagger to the program. Let’s just hope he gets his tactics right, that’s truly the only thing that frightens me (oh, and our defence). Pumped for this. An absolute great opportunity for our program. A few solid and consistent performances and we will firmly be in contention for Qatar. Addona 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Group C & F are the toughest for the seeded teams as per non-Canadians on the interweb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, red card said: Group C & F are the toughest for the seeded teams as per non-Canadians on the interweb. C I get, but F looks pretty favourable for T&T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I think we clearly have the toughest group but like others have said. If we can get this done we don't really deserve to go to the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Floortom said: C I get, but F looks pretty favourable for T&T. 2 of the teams in group F tied us in 2011 (St. Kitts and Nevis, and Puerto Rico), and T&T has beaten us a couple times in the past (4 wins against us, 2 draws, and we have beaten them 7 times) . We've never played Guyana or Bahamas, so no measuring stick games there. I can understand people thinking that group is pretty wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 It’s not the worst thing to have a little bit of a challenge before playing the two-legged tie that follows. An Observer, Obinna and BrennanFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtpc Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If we make it to the Octagonal as the B vs. E winner, here is what our schedule would be: June 2021 Matchday 1 Home vs. Honduras Matchday 2 Away at USA Matchday 3 Home vs. Winner of A vs. F Matchday 4 Away at Mexico September 2021 Matchday 5 Away at Jamaica Matchday 6 Home vs. Winner of C vs. D October 2021 Matchday 7 Home vs. Costa Rica Matchday 8 Home vs. Mexico November 2021 Matchday 9 Away at Honduras Matchday 10 Home vs. USA January 2022 Matchday 11 Away at Winner of A vs. F Matchday 12 Away at Costa Rica March 2022 Matchday 13 Home vs. Jamaica Matchday 14 Away at Winner of C vs. D johnyb and Kyle_The_Hill 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 hours ago, xabuep2 said: Right in the window of January 2022 that Canada could take advantage of the weather, it will be his turn to play 2 matches away. The draw does seem rigged so that we wouldn't host in January, doesn't it? Interesting. Window 1 June 2021: A/F home x2 Honduras away x2 Window 2 June 2021: Honduras home x2 Jamaica away x2 Window 3 September 2021: No double home or double away games Window 4 October 2021: B/E home x2 Mexico away x 2 Window 5 November 2021: Honduras home x2 A/F away x2 Window 6 January 2022: Mexico home x 2 B/E away x2 Window 7 March 2022: No double home of double away games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I like it! Catch the US away early when Berhalter is still experimenting, take the Mexico away beating and then get to business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtpc Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) In the Octagonal, of course every match is important, but look at the 4 matches we would play between October 2021 and November 2021: Home vs. Costa Rica Home vs. Mexico Away at Honduras Home vs. USA Wow. Huge. Throw in the last part of the September 2021 window as well (Home vs. Winner of C vs. D) and there's a stretch of 5 matches where 4 would be at home for us. Edited August 20, 2020 by jtpc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, jtpc said: In the Octagonal, of course every match is important, but look at the 4 matches we would play between October 2021 and November 2021: Home vs. Costa Rica Home vs. Mexico Away at Honduras Home vs. USA Wow. Huge. Throw in the last part of the September 2021 window as well (Home vs. Winner of C vs. D) and there's a stretch of 5 matches where 4 would be at home for us. I"m sure it'll be absolutely delightful in here when they announce the home venues for that stretch. 😄 Olympique_de_Marseille and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdog Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Fullback said: We can't be scared of Bermuda and Suriname ffs. It's probably a better thing we play decent teams in that round than just beat up on minnows anyway I was gonna say this, why not get some more competitive games in? As long as we can call up our strongest team I'm not worried at all. Well, maybe a little since we're Canada...but we should be good...right? costarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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