RS Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, El Hombre said: Okay, cool. Sounds great. So, who's to blame then that he's not playing "with the kind of confidence befitting his stature as one of the top teenagers in MLS"? Are we going to put this all on his shoulders? My entire point is that it's way too early to judge the club's handling of his development as a failure, as many here are all too eager to do. He's playing more now than he did earlier this season, and will presumably play more next season than he is now. Even if it's not that linear a progression, it should still trend upward for the foreseeable future. At some point, it will be on his shoulders to make the most of his opportunities, but that's obviously not yet. Right now he's playing based on potential rather than output, which is normal. If he flames out Tabla style (where multiple coaches and teams come to the same conclusion) then perhaps it'll only be on his shoulders, but if he simply doesn't pan out at this level then the club should absolutely share the blame. As for why he's not playing with confidence now is anybody's guess, but I'm not sure there has to be anyone to blame. He's certainly not the first teenager to play timidly when stepping up to the first team, but it's something both he and the club will want to figure out. 14 minutes ago, El Hombre said: Case Study #1 - Ralph Priso. Most say this season was successful up until his injury. You yourself have mentioned him in the last few posts. On May 12th, he played 77 minutes in a 2-0 win over Columbus (it was 1-0 when he was subbed out). Hard to say that he was a liability in a game like this. However, after that game he's dropped to the bench for the next three games (1 draw, 2 losses) in favour of Auro because TFC just picked up Lawrence. They preferred playing someone out of position over him after he'd had a month and a half of decent runs in the side. A case study that fails to mention that he went on to make seven more appearances (four starts) before getting injured is incomplete. The ill-fated Auro at DM experiment was one of several reasons Chris Armas got canned, but it doesn't really speak to the club's overall use of Priso this season and last. 31 minutes ago, El Hombre said: Case Study #2 - Jacob Shaffelburg. This one is a little less damning, but worth mentioning all the same: scored his first goal coming on as a substitute to salvage a draw with NYCFC. Generally that would be considered making the most of the opportunity given. However, he is relegated to the bench for the next game as TFC decide to go with a front four of Altidore, Soteldo, Osorio and Delgado (who was playing in a forward role to make room for Auro at d-mid). He does get a substitute cameo to come on for D-mid Auro. I assume Delgado moved back to that position. He would then to go on to have spot duty until mid-September where he luckily plays lights out. However, last night he didn't put the team on his back, so I am betting that he starts on the bench against Miami. We shall see. If anything pushes Shaffelburg to the bench in the next game it would be the continued re-integration of Altidore and Pozeulo into the side, not that he "didn't put the team on his back." As for this specific example, I don't know if scoring a goal as a substitute should automatically mean he should get to start in the next game, but as a Shafell-stan I don't think it would've hurt the team to do so. The team was experimenting with all sorts of crazy ideas under Armas and has gone back to a more conservative approach with Perez at the helm. It is what it is. Stryker911 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Approve My Account Pls, sebdeserio, Acid-Tone and 11 others 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Great work-rate and tackle at the end. Then subbed off immediately. Yep. narduch and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Tweet gets posted that says Marshall-Rutty is improving but could be more fearless. This board: "💙💙💙💙💙" I post that Marshall-Rutty is improving but could be more fearless. This board: "HOW DARE YOU?!" I'm mostly joke-trolling at this point, but I do stand behind what I'm saying. I think many in here are way oversimplifying things. SpursFlu, Ruffian, gator and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggietfc Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 hours ago, Gian-Luca said: In the post-game presser Perez admitted that JMR played "great" in this 30 minutes in the middle of the game and said it was merely a tactical sub because they couldn't use him and Pozuelo on the field at the same time. Or something. that worked really well...now we are in a battle for the spoon again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Approve My Account Pls Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 4 hours ago, RS said: Tweet gets posted that says Marshall-Rutty is improving but could be more fearless. This board: "💙💙💙💙💙" I post that Marshall-Rutty is improving but could be more fearless. This board: "HOW DARE YOU?!" I'm mostly joke-trolling at this point, but I do stand behind what I'm saying. I think many in here are way oversimplifying things. I agree with you about him being more fearless, but that comes with confidence, and as far as killing confidence goes in the football world, being subbed on and subbed off in 30 minutes might be one of the worst things you can do regardless of whether the sub is planned or unplanned Dominic94, gator, Nello and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Approve My Account Pls said: I agree with you about him being more fearless, but that comes with confidence, and as far as killing confidence goes in the football world, being subbed on and subbed off in 30 minutes might be one of the worst things you can do regardless of whether the sub is planned or unplanned Exactly this, and Galindo’s highlights suggest to me that he should have played the whole game. Only time you pull off a sub is if he’s brutal and to send him a message… narduch and Approve My Account Pls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Approve My Account Pls said: I agree with you about him being more fearless, but that comes with confidence, and as far as killing confidence goes in the football world, being subbed on and subbed off in 30 minutes might be one of the worst things you can do regardless of whether the sub is planned or unplanned Agreed, it was an ill-advised move. The coach would've had to make it clear beforehand that the sub was coming, but there were other players he could've pulled first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I guess Perez got the message. Addona, Dominic94, dyslexic nam and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 The season is lost with TFC mathematically eliminated. Bench the vets and play the kids. Let’s give them a run and see what they can do. Approve My Account Pls, Nello, Kadenge and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) To add onto that tweet Said this immediately after the last game that this was the only thing that would “make up” for taking him off last game. Hopefully JMR takes advantage of this start. Edited October 18, 2021 by canuckgbp Corazon, gator, johnyb and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, narduch said: I guess Perez got the message. Long fucking overdue, agent must of pressed hard and there’s got to be some pressure above him. sebdeserio, Xavier., Approve My Account Pls and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 @Dominic94 I’m sure there is a ton of pressure from above. Its one thing to be terrible. It’s even worse to be terrible and not have anything positive to take to the next season regarding player development. Corazon, gator and Dominic94 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, baulderdash77 said: @Dominic94 I’m sure there is a ton of pressure from above. Its one thing to be terrible. It’s even worse to be terrible and not have anything positive to take to the next season regarding player development. Agreed 100%, and looking to the highlights he may be both a 10 and on the right wing, he hit some good balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 If there’s a team you want a young kid to get his first start against it’s Miami. They’ve been abysmal lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Can't wait until he gets subbed out for Patrick Mullins. Approve My Account Pls, El Hombre, Kent and 4 others 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 My blood pressure wont take much more of this.....it could cause the big one!! kclee and MtlMario 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Approve My Account Pls Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, RS said: Can't wait until he gets subbed out for Patrick Mullins. At the half on top of it Edit: probably after winning a penalty and getting an assist as well Edited October 19, 2021 by Approve My Account Pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I thought he was much better in the last game. I was disappointed he was subbed out, but I doubt it was a confidence sapping move (unless something has been said that he didn't know it was coming?). He very likely knew why he was subbed out, probably would have been told at half time if not earlier. It might have even given him more of a spark to make, for example, that big run defensive play. Might as well run hard now since you'll be coming out soon! I'm happy to hear he'll start the next game though, hopefully he can play a bit better again, and yes hopefully more than 30 minutes this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 He looks noticeably more mature physically, even from the start of this season. Maybe I'm just misremembering. It was nice to see his pace against Atlanta. His mind seems to work like a combiner mores so than a pure winger, so if he has both skill sets available that's encouraging. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, El Diego said: He looks noticeably more mature physically, even from the start of this season. Maybe I'm just misremembering. It was nice to see his pace against Atlanta. His mind seems to work like a combiner mores so than a pure winger, so if he has both skill sets available that's encouraging. No, you’re not wrong. He looked like he was 5’5 130 pounds soaking wet at the start of the year. Not any longer. dyslexic nam and El Diego 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 As expected he is starting Dominic94 and Xavier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I'm not sure what's going on with TFC's shape. He and Shaff might be wing backs? narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, El Diego said: I'm not sure what's going on with TFC's shape. He and Shaff might be wing backs? bruh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Early but his skill is evident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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