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3 hours ago, admin said:

Kick off today.

Any predictions? 

 

I predict this Canada team will better their QF finish at the last WWC. Nice blend of youth and experience and a few world class players (Sinclair / Fleming / Buchanan / Lawrence) bolstered by a very impressive supporting cast. Finally, a Canada team that is full of goals.

We.could.go.all.the.way....

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4 minutes ago, Lofty said:

I predict this Canada team will better their QF finish at the last WWC. Nice blend of youth and experience and a few world class players (Sinclair / Fleming / Buchanan / Lawrence) bolstered by a very impressive supporting cast. Finally, a Canada team that is full of goals.

We.could.go.all.the.way....

Yeah, I also find it hard to get a read on other teams though.  

I can't find myself in with any confident position on predictions.  

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Just now, admin said:

Yeah, I also find it hard to get a read on other teams though.  

I can't find myself in with any confident position on predictions.  

The Germans will flop to the ground every time anyone goes near them, the French will gesticulate wildly every time a close call goes against them, the English will f-this and f-that and foul anything that moves, the Japanese will be better organized than the Russian military and slightly less enjoyable to watch, the Swedes and Norwegians will physically batter their opponents, the African teams will lose, and the US will be the team to beat, as always. 😁

Any other questions?

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3 minutes ago, toontownman said:

Spain lucky today. I don't really know the South African defender can relax her leg in time after a clearance that VAR calls a penalty. 

 

Spain super lucky on both PK calls. They were so good in qualifying and so good at youth level, and now this....

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Just now, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

Spain super lucky on both PK calls. They were so good in qualifying and so good at youth level, and now this....

Glad it wasn't just me. The first pen is unfortunate and reflex but has to be given with the new rules. The second the commentator says is absolutely without a doubt the right decision. I don't see how she gets her foot out of the way after the clearance. 

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3 minutes ago, toontownman said:

Glad it wasn't just me. The first pen is unfortunate and reflex but has to be given with the new rules. The second the commentator says is absolutely without a doubt the right decision. I don't see how she gets her foot out of the way after the clearance. 

Yup. But the first call is clearly ball-to-hand, not hand trying to block the ball. You can't run at that speed and shift position with your hands glued to your side.

The second call is tough because the challenge was only slightly reckless, but yes, you can't move your foot away that quickly.  Not much she could do. 

 

In the end, two VERY easy and lucky PKs for Spain.

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You are all being silly about Spain, they totally dominated the game, had 75% possession, up to 20 shots (I have not checked, and were superior in every facet). SA went ahead against the flow and on one of their only shots. That they got on the board and went ahead on penalties is beside the point: they got the result they deserved. If they had not gotten at least a draw it would have been a grossly unlucky result.

Also happens to be the first win ever for Spain in a WC, makes you realise how new the programme here really is.

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1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

You are all being silly about Spain, they totally dominated the game, had 75% possession, up to 20 shots (I have not checked, and were superior in every facet). SA went ahead against the flow and on one of their only shots. That they got on the board and went ahead on penalties is beside the point: they got the result they deserved. If they had not gotten at least a draw it would have been a grossly unlucky result.

Also happens to be the first win ever for Spain in a WC, makes you realise how new the programme here really is.

They had a lot of help from the referee and the VAR.  The VAR is changing the game and I find that frustrating.

 

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2 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

You are all being silly about Spain, they totally dominated the game, had 75% possession, up to 20 shots (I have not checked, and were superior in every facet).

With the talent they have, they should have been far better in the final 3rd.

Unlike some analysts, I expected Spain to easily get through their group at the start of the tournament. Now, I'm not so sure.

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41 minutes ago, The Ref said:

They had a lot of help from the referee and the VAR.  The VAR is changing the game and I find that frustrating.

The VAR and the ref helped them get 20+ shots and over 70% possession? That is plain silliness. They totally dominated and deserved to win. 

If you watched the match the S Africans kicked the hell out of them early, there were plays that were close to red that were not even called fouls in the first half, like when that striker leaped into the air and fell onto a clearing back about 2 seconds late. The ref only started to cut short very dirty play, involving late tackles to support ankles, in the 2nd half. She let them defend the early lead without cutting out the violent play at all, until it got too much. 

The VAR is anecdotal in the big picture. 

I gave an objective report about Canada-Spain the other day, I pointed out plenty of Spain limitations. But if the ref had not given the 1st they would have kept going and gotten their draw at least, and likely a win anyways. It was 3-1 so even arguing, it's a fair win. South Africa was lucky to be in it at all. 

What's funny is that we could get a very similar story for Canada's opener, and everyone will say what I am saying.

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5 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

The VAR and the ref helped them get 20+ shots and over 70% possession? That is plain silliness. They totally dominated and deserved to win. 

If you watched the match the S Africans kicked the hell out of them early, there were plays that were close to red that were not even called fouls in the first half, like when that striker leaped into the air and fell onto a clearing back about 2 seconds late. The ref only started to cut short very dirty play, involving late tackles to support ankles, in the 2nd half. She let them defend the early lead without cutting out the violent play at all, until it got too much. 

The VAR is anecdotal in the big picture. 

I gave an objective report about Canada-Spain the other day, I pointed out plenty of Spain limitations. But if the ref had not given the 1st they would have kept going and gotten their draw at least, and likely a win anyways. It was 3-1 so even arguing, it's a fair win. South Africa was lucky to be in it at all. 

What's funny is that we could get a very similar story for Canada's opener, and everyone will say what I am saying.

Your description sort of proves my point.  The referee was inconsistent, a major sin of referees.  I didn't like her attitude as well.

 

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It's incredible if true that they started shifting people around in stadiums, not letting them sit together, when they were nowhere near being full anywhere. Has anyone heard more about that?

Any word about restrictions entering stadiums from anyone who has been to a game already?

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I have two main thoughts from the England vs. Scotland match.

1. As an England fan, I can say that penalty was total bullsh!t. That is what happenes when the braniacs at FIFA tinker with the rules. That was NOT a deliberate handball, so it is only a penalty under the "new" rules. How on earth can anybody think a penalty kick is an appropriate decision when a player is just trying to block a cross in a perfectly natural way and the ball accidentally hits her arm? Utterly ridiculous. The morons at FIFA are ruining the game.

2. Excellent performance by the ref. Had the perfect balance between allowing contact but calling fouls. Much as I hate it, the penalty decision was correct. And she perfectly handled one of my pet peeves: when players on a team that has just scored a goal try to grab the ball. It is the OTHER TEAM'S BALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE KICK OFF! I am 100% behind the England player who held onto the ball like a running back. You have scored a goal, now fuzz off onto your own side of the half way line and wait for us to kick off. The ref just waved the Scotland players away, thus ending the ruck, and let England get on with it. No cards issued, just sensible reffing. Perfect.

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On 6/8/2019 at 12:55 PM, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

Spain super lucky on both PK calls. They were so good in qualifying and so good at youth level, and now this....

Yes, both BS pens as far as I am concerned, just like the England one today. Which is not to say that any of the calls were incorrect, but more that "progress" is looking a lot more like "regress".

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6 hours ago, admin said:

Pretty sad attendance at that England / Scotland game.

Seems low to me. 

 

Looking back, I see the average in Canada 2015 was just over 26,000, so yes, 13,000+ was much lower than one would hope for such a relatively high profile opening match. I hope the fans don't just come out for the French.

I see on Wikipedia that the running average is currently just over 18,500, although many teams have not yet played so that average is artificially inflated by including France's first match:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_FIFA_Women's_World_Cup

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9 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

It's incredible if true that they started shifting people around in stadiums, not letting them sit together, when they were nowhere near being full anywhere. Has anyone heard more about that?

Any word about restrictions entering stadiums from anyone who has been to a game already?

There didn't seem to be any of that in Nice yesterday (I was at the match), I think so far the only match with ticketing issues was the first one - a bunch of people had had their tickets re-issued and didn't know, so the tickets they printed weren't valid anymore and they had to go get new ones, but all of the other games (which lower attendances) seem to have gone fine. All they did say in the stadium yesterday was to please sit in the seat assigned by your ticket, but I'm not sure if they were breaking groups up if some of them weren't - it's easy to say if you show up to your seat in an empty stadium and a group of ten is filling that row that you should just move but if you have a group of 10 that all bought tickets to sit in that row, it becomes a problem. There were large groups (like an entire lower bowl section) of Scotland fans all sitting together and given our experience buying tickets either the Scottish FA somehow got them a section or some of those people just moved to sit there, so there's that. 

As for the actual attendance yesterday, it seemed like at least 80% of the people there were from the UK, and another percentage other travelling fans - the local attendance seemed really low, a few youth teams if anything. 

Also to note, FIFA organized a bunch of shuttles to and from the stadium, which became really the only way for anyone not driving to get there (the train had organized a special match day price and everything but was on strike) and the shuttles were easily the best-organized thing FIFA has ever pulled off, I was astonished. 

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2 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Hi, thanks so much for that, good to hear. I have posted on Trams to the Stade in Montpellier just now. We'll see if they add shuttles to that service, will look for it now.

They are running shuttles to this game iirc from the Montpellier Airport, which seems really out of the way compared to just taking the tram. (It’s on the FIFA WWC site for each stadium if they have shuttles and where from.)

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3 hours ago, carolynduthie said:

They are running shuttles to this game iirc from the Montpellier Airport, which seems really out of the way compared to just taking the tram. (It’s on the FIFA WWC site for each stadium if they have shuttles and where from.)

See the Voyageurs in France thread.

I'm on tram now and I'd recommend it. ...i parked near the stadium as I'm driving back to Barcelona tonight. 

You are right about the shuttle it starts too far away from town. 

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