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3 hours ago, johnyb said:

Just got a notice from WYSA that my son's game on the 12th has been rescheduled. Lots of notice this time for the Valour Game. I hope you have better Luck with this one Winnipeg Fury.

@Winnipeg Fury may have shot himself in the foot for June 12th! 😫

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59 minutes ago, jonovision said:

Interesting from Ryan Brandt re: Gutierrez:

 

 

 

Check out the recent vid on the Valour website where Galey mentions this and some other things too, one of them being that Gutierrez has only taken one shot, which is fewer than expected.

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Looks like the Valour FC home game on August 22nd will have to be re-scheduled to accommodate the NFL preseason game being hosted in Winnipeg between Green Bay and Oakland.

This may be a blessing in disguise because as currently scheduled, Valour would have matches on Thursday and Saturday (Aug 22 and 24), the only such 2 games in 3 days scenario on the schedule.

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54 minutes ago, jonovision said:

Looks like the Valour FC home game on August 22nd will have to be re-scheduled to accommodate the NFL preseason game being hosted in Winnipeg between Green Bay and Oakland.

This may be a blessing in disguise because as currently scheduled, Valour would have matches on Thursday and Saturday (Aug 22 and 24), the only such 2 games in 3 days scenario on the schedule.

Bringing it forward to Tue (ideally) or Wed would make sense. It is really not good enough to schedule two games in less than 48 hours when the second one is such a long way away. The schedule has done Valour no favours this season.

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4 hours ago, Lofty said:

Bringing it forward to Tue (ideally) or Wed would make sense. It is really not good enough to schedule two games in less than 48 hours when the second one is such a long way away. The schedule has done Valour no favours this season.

Welp this is what is in our ticket manager accounts so.... they pretty much rescheduled on the worst possible date.image.png.01dbff7d91007ad21aa69f8cc8e1cafe.png

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40 minutes ago, MrsC said:

Welp this is what is in our ticket manager accounts so.... they pretty much rescheduled on the worst possible date.image.png.01dbff7d91007ad21aa69f8cc8e1cafe.png

It's better for the players than it was before, but still bad. I'm guessing the NFL/Bombers are requesting control of the stadium for at least 48 hours in advance of the Packers-Raiders game.

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Real slap in the face by the Bombers to to move a regular season game for a meaningless pre-season game from another league. I won't be surprised if they fold the team sooner than later.  Non- Soccer people running a team is always a bad idea. The message is awful, sorry we have something better that night.  The league should step in and do something. I can't imagine a European club saying we will cancel our regular game because we found a way to make more money with the stadium. This league will fold if it accepts being treated as second class.

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11 minutes ago, sting said:

Real slap in the face by the Bombers to to move a regular season game for a meaningless pre-season game from another league. I won't be surprised if they fold the team sooner than later.  Non- Soccer people running a team is always a bad idea. The message is awful, sorry we have something better that night.  The league should step in and do something. I can't imagine a European club saying we will cancel our regular game because we found a way to make more money with the stadium. This league will fold if it accepts being treated as second class.

As someone who has certainly not baulked at criticising the way Valour is being run when I feel it is deserved, I don't mind this. An NFL game in Winnipeg is pretty huge, even a pre-season one. There are lots of Packer fans here. It will definitely be sold out and enjoyed by many. I think it would have been nuts to say "sorry, can't do it, Valour play their 4th CPL match against FCE that day". I really don't see this as treating Valour as second class, but more of a sensible compromise that benefits many and harms no one. In fact, as pointed out above, it is actually better for Valour, from a playing standpoint anyway.

I think if we started trying to protect our turf instead of working with other pro sports teams, it would end badly.

Edited by Lofty

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9 minutes ago, Lofty said:

As someone who has certainly not baulked at criticising the way Valour is being run when I feel it is deserved, I don't mind this. An NFL game in Winnipeg is pretty huge, even a pre-season one. There are lots of Packer fans here. It will definitely be sold out and enjoyed by many. I think it would have been nuts to say "sorry, can't do it, Valour play their 4th CPL match against FCE that day". I really don't see this as treating Valour as second class, but more of a sensible compromise that benefits many and harms no one. In fact, as pointed out above, it is actually better for Valour, from a playing standpoint anyway.

I think if we started trying to protect our turf instead of working with other pro sports teams, it would end badly.

It's pure second class. The Bombers apparently wouldn't allow the game on the 23rd because the Bombers were on TV yet move a regular scheduled game because it's only soccer. I love the NFL but not over my team. I hope they issues refunds for those who can't make the rescheduled game.

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2 minutes ago, sting said:

It's pure second class. The Bombers apparently wouldn't allow the game on the 23rd because the Bombers were on TV yet move a regular scheduled game. I love the NFL but not over my team. I hope they issues refunds for those who can't make the rescheduled game.

That makes perfect sense as Bomber fans are exactly the demographic who would go to the NFL game!

Games in England get moved all the time at the behest of the Sky TV Overlords, often at extremely short notice (sometimes as short as 2 weeks!) and often after many fans have bought advance train tickets which are then useless.

Moving this one game for a very good reason is no big deal for this Valour STH.

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I don't think the Winnipeg Football Club are in a position to turn down the massive payday the NFL match will bring because it inconveniences Valour, and even then only marginally.

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14 minutes ago, Lofty said:

That makes perfect sense as Bomber fans are exactly the demographic who would go to the NFL game!

Games in England get moved all the time at the behest of the Sky TV Overlords, often at extremely short notice (sometimes as short as 2 weeks!) and often after many fans have bought advance train tickets which are then useless.

Moving this one game for a very good reason is no big deal for this Valour STH.

It is to this one. If the league allows this stuff to start it will keep snowballing to other things. Bumping TV games for bowling events etc. It doesn't take much for things to start derailing quickly. Making this league look professional right off the bat is important.

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1 minute ago, sting said:

It is to this one. If the league always this stuff to start it will keep snowballing to other things. Bumping TV games for bowling events etc. It doesn't take much for things to start derailing quickly. Making this league look professional right off the bat is important.

I guess we will agree to disagree. But "Bumping TV games for bowling events etc" -- come on!! 😂

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You can justify it any way you want.  A tenant's previously scheduled fixture was moved to accomodiate a revenue generating exhibition.  It's quite clear who are the 2nd class citizens here.   Two home fixtures in 48 hours is light years past stupid.

So very professional.  No? 

Oh, I fully expect the quality of play during that 2nd home match to be worth every single cent I paid for my season passes.  No doubt  about it.  It'll do wonders to promote this product we call the CPL to the ticket buying public into 2020 after this NFL one-off has moved on to whatever other B list city it can flog its worthless pre-season exhibitions to.    

Would there be a team in Winnipeg without Miller and the Bomber's?  Don't know.  I suspect likely not, but that doesn't absolve them of criticism for improper actions. 

Now, if the Valour BoD agreed to accept monetary compentiation to reschedule the fixture that's a different matter.  That's a decision they are going to wear.  But as it stands now, this is on the Bombers.    

 

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2 minutes ago, Cheeta said:

Now, if the Valour BoD agreed to accept monetary compentiation to reschedule the fixture that's a different matter.  That's a decision they are going to wear.  But as it stands now, this is on the Bombers.    

I don't think there is a separate Valour BoD. Winnipeg Football Club has one BoD that runs both Valour and the Bombers, although the Board members are surely all or mostly CFL people.

By the way, for many years the EPL used to schedule two matches in 48 hours over both Christmas and Easter Sat/Mon. So it is hardly unprecedented and the second match was never any less competitive. Of course BOTH teams had that short turn around.

I really don't get all the angst.

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TFC once moved a regular season match for a friendly during the dark days (Liverpool maybe?)

The hard core didn't like it one bit. But the team survived this mishap

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The gate revenue from the NFL game will almost certainly exceed the revenue from the entire Valour season. There will be costs as well, but undoubtedly this will be a windfall for a heavily indebted sports ownership group that includes Valour. Allowing the NFL game to bump the Valour match is a no-brainer and any of the other CPL groups would have done the same given the opportunity. The rescheduling wasn't ideal, but we don't know how much flexibility there was between Edmonton, the league, and the stadium operations side of things. And it's worth remembering that for the team and players, two home games in 48 hours is better than a home game followed by a game in Victoria less than 48 hours later.

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1 minute ago, Lofty said:

I don't think there is a separate Valour BoD. Winnipeg Football Club has one BoD that runs both Valour and the Bombers, although the Board members are surely all or mostly CFL people.

By the way, for many years the EPL used to schedule two matches in 48 hours over both Christmas and Easter Sat/Mon. So it is hardly unprecedented and the second match was never any less competitive. Of course BOTH teams had that short turn around.

I really don't get all the angst.

The Xmas-New Years schedule has been loved/hated for years now.  Love all the football during the Holiday Season, hate the battle fatigue.  And no CPL team carrys anything resembling the quality or the depth of an EPL roster.

If the CPL allows a team to play matches in anything less than a 72 hour window, then they're wrong, and it needs to change.  But as importantly the question needs to be asked.  What is the league minimum time frame between competitive fixtures?

If IG Field cannot accomodate Valour FC and a change of venue is required I can live with that being a necessary evil.  Just to be a good partner and so long as Valour are financially compensated.  

The 48 hour, sorry, 50 hour window between kickoffs I cannot accept.   

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32 minutes ago, Cheeta said:

LOL. 

Going to take a pass on the 19th for sure and keep $120 in parking, beer, and munchie money in my pocket. 

Wot? You won't use the ticket(s) that you already paid for? That'll learn 'em!

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One of many I expect.  That Tuesday match (against Edmonton) is going to get murdered at the gate.

Of course you never know, the famous V's Cup victory over Toronto in the semis may go a long way into getting casuals into the building.  

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