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Do we have the average weekday attendance versus weekend? 

The clubs consistently draw in the 2000s need to change something in their marketing approach. There has to be a better way to meaningfully engage with their local football communities better. 

We know these clubs are sustainable at 2k a game. Gate, and general game day, revenues are significant portion of the total revenue. 

Edited by hamiltonfan

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^^^unsustainable?

2790 announced in Edmonton as above:

https://ca.soccerway.com/matches/2019/09/12/canada/canadian-premier-league/fc-edmonton/cavalry/2991893/

but only 1200 (?) in Langford:

https://ca.soccerway.com/matches/2019/09/12/canada/canadian-premier-league/canada-pacific-fc/york-9/2991894/

which is also being shown on the league website:

https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/5d9hwavq8j3gubsel8yg8797u/highlights

Edited by Ozzie_the_parrot

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6 hours ago, hamiltonfan said:

We know these clubs are sustainable at 2k a game. Gate, and general game day, revenues are significant portion of the total revenue. 

It would be hard to believe any fully professional team in any coast to coast Canadian league is sustainable with only a couple grand showing up a game.

 

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10 hours ago, hamiltonfan said:

Do we have the average weekday attendance versus weekend? 

The clubs consistently draw in the 2000s need to change something in their marketing approach. There has to be a better way to meaningfully engage with their local football communities better. 

We know these clubs are NOT sustainable at 2k a game. Gate, and general game day, revenues are significant portion of the total revenue. 

NOT SUSTAINABLE- miss type!  

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Another thing that doesn't help on crowds right now (as I just saw pointed out on Reddit) is that it's crystal clear that barring some sort of miracle the championship games will be Forge vs Cavalry, so all the games through to the end of the regular season will have little impact in competitive terms. They really needed playoffs to spice things up for the other five teams and keep fans engaged once the summer weather was out of the way.

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12 hours ago, CDNFootballer said:

Nope, new stand is open, not a lot of fans there though but its a weekday. The family zone bleachers behind the net are gone for this one though, looks better without them and not needed at this point anyway.

Right?!?!  I keep saying to anyone who will listen that taking out the stupid ground-=level bleachers at that end makes it much better. I want to see those railings covered in supporter banners with a pile of us behind them waving flags and making noise.

 

11 hours ago, CDNFootballer said:

2043 for Pacific FC vs York9 tonight.

Yeah, it sucked. Dragging people out midweek is arguably the stupidest scheduling decision this league has made.

 

11 hours ago, hamiltonfan said:

The clubs consistently draw in the 2000s need to change something in their marketing approach. There has to be a better way to meaningfully engage with their local football communities better. 

Yes and no. I agree Pacific et al can do a better job of marketing but they are most certainly doing a great job of engaging, "with their local football communities". However that means jack **** as young kids on teams are not the ones buying tickets and arranging transport to and from games after their frigging bedtimes on a school night!

The final five home games for PFC (Sept-Oct) include 3 Wednesday nights and two Saturdays. Kids basically cannot attend the Wednesday games as they would get home between 9:30 - 10:00 pm. The Saturday games are being played during the day, when  most of those kids are PLAYING SOCCER for those teams that the club is engaging with very well.

Besides the schedule issue, what needs to happen is the LEAGUE needs to engage with media better. This league is about as well known to the average Canadian as... well, let's just say it barely registers. It doesn't show up on highlights shows or in national sports reporting. 

 

12 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

Another thing that doesn't help on crowds right now (as I just saw pointed out on Reddit) is that it's crystal clear that barring some sort of miracle the championship games will be Forge vs Cavalry, so all the games through to the end of the regular season will have little impact in competitive terms. They really needed playoffs to spice things up for the other five teams and keep fans engaged once the summer weather was out of the way.

And here is one of the biggest reasons I keep harping on about only playing teams ONCE home and away in the season. What is there to get excited about in seeing a team come to town that you have already played once, sometimes even twice before? If they do show up in a cup competition there is least the added interest of knocking them out of the competition. But last night was like the fifth time we played York. How do you sell that when nothing is on the line?

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2 hours ago, Aird25 said:

They can start by fixing the bloody schedule. Back to back midweek games at the start of the school year? Pacific’s home schedule has been so bad

Honestly, they need to do something to mix it up with so many games for so few teams.  Either bring it down to 24 games and do a double home & away, or add some extra cup tournament in there to make the midweek games mean something if you're intent on keeping it at 28.

Also yes, fix the goddamn schedule.  York had 10 home matches in 8 weeks during May & June, and now none for the last month.

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51 minutes ago, CDNFootballer said:

3586 for Valour FC in Winnipeg for the match vs Forge FC on a poor weather night.

Gotta say, it seemed like less. I think we need to get Ozzie Parrot, Private Eye on the case. 😁

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1 hour ago, CDNFootballer said:

3586 for Valour FC in Winnipeg for the match vs Forge FC on a poor weather night.

3K tops.  Maybe a bit less.  It's hard to judge when everyone gets scattered around the grounds but easily the worst crowd of the year.

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No sign of a crowd number so far for the Forge game, but will leave the links so it is easy to check:

https://ca.soccerway.com/matches/2019/09/15/canada/canadian-premier-league/forge/hfx-wanderers/2991897/

https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/5dzgbpowfq3bfc0jp50nxi0yy/highlights

Could post more screen grabs with more depressing evidence of there being acres of empty seats rather than packed sections of fans, but I'm sure you all saw that on the Onesoccer coverage. Hopefully the Wanderers are going to provide reasons to be upbeat over the coming week and to believe this league can actually work.

Edit: 6016 announced

Edited by Ozzie_the_parrot

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16 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

Hopefully the Wanderers are going to provide reasons to be upbeat over the coming week and to believe this league can actually work.

I think its safe to say we are not likely going to win the league title...... however I think we now have a real shot at being the attendance champs!    lol

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1 hour ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

No sign of a crowd number so far for the Forge game, but will leave the links so it is easy to check:

https://ca.soccerway.com/matches/2019/09/15/canada/canadian-premier-league/forge/hfx-wanderers/2991897/

https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/5dzgbpowfq3bfc0jp50nxi0yy/highlights

Could post more screen grabs with more depressing evidence of there being acres of empty seats rather than packed sections of fans, but I'm sure you all saw that on the Onesoccer coverage. Hopefully the Wanderers are going to provide reasons to be upbeat over the coming week and to believe this league can actually work.

Edit: 6016 announced

There were more people in the concourse than in the stands today I’d say.  The bar was pretty packed.  

I thought 6,000 was about right.

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18 minutes ago, baulderdash77 said:

There were more people in the concourse than in the stands today I’d say.  The bar was pretty packed.  

I thought 6,000 was about right.

Could have been a little less than that from where I was sitting but Supercrawl is going on this weekend and that's become a pretty huge event in Hamilton.  

Either way a whole season in the 5000 to 6000 range seems like a solid start to me.  

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