Unnamed Trialist Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 12 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: Why do people want to watch the A League in Canada? Nobody even wants to watch it here. It's awful. We got it last year via Mediapro in Spain, and agreed. I only watched to see how Carl Robinson coached his team, and was not surprised by what I saw. Same as I watched some MLS matches on Eurosport years back, just to get some feedback on the league. I'd love to know what the numbers are, or how the broadcasts are justified within the overall budgeting of these platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadOnMondays Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I'd like to A League or really just more leagues on OneSoccer. A channel needs more than all this information and opinion programming they have. chris_yzf, narduch and CDNFootballer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I'm sure that One Soccer could get the A League broadcast right for about ten bucks. The A League will be desperate for money after getting ditched by Fox Sports over here. Overseas rights can't be bringing in much, if anything, for the league at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Plus everyone has missed Carl Robinson so much they would get to see him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadOnMondays Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 ^ that's actually my current interest in the A Leauge. The league puts the games live on YouTube, which is great, but it'd be nice to have them on a platform like OneSoccer to be able to watch them at convenience. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, SadOnMondays said: ^ that's actually my current interest in the A Leauge. The league puts the games live on YouTube, which is great, but it'd be nice to have them on a platform like OneSoccer to be able to watch them at convenience. I don't think anyone has ever referred to OneSoccer as "the way to watch games on delay at your convenience." Cheeta, SadOnMondays and Kent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 https://breakingthelines.com/investigation-piece/ligue-1-and-the-landscape-of-its-broadcasting-income-in-the-wake-of-covid-19/ Not a whole lot new, but sort of backing up that covid really had nothing to do with MediaPro's mess. They were already heavily in debt and seeing declining revenues at the end of 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Watchmen said: https://breakingthelines.com/investigation-piece/ligue-1-and-the-landscape-of-its-broadcasting-income-in-the-wake-of-covid-19/ Not a whole lot new, but sort of backing up that covid really had nothing to do with MediaPro's mess. They were already heavily in debt and seeing declining revenues at the end of 2019. DAZN is struggling also and as an example happily agreed to split with Canelo Alvarez in order to save money. ESPN would be broke if it wasn't just an off shoot of the Disney Corp. If it was a stand alone company it would have beed bankrupt long ago. Same with TSN. Owned by Bell and Disney. If it was run like a stand alone it would be done. So these streaming services were willing to take some risks in order to break thru against these mega corps but clearly nobody (i think nobody) could have predicted what was going to happen. In Ligue1 case they didn't meet their contractual agreement with Mediapro. Whether it was a good deal is neither here nor there. It doesn't matter. Mediapro paid for something they didn't receive. Also one could also argue that the product now is not the product Mediapro or anyone else paid for. I for one as a consumer can say my sports viewing has gone way down. Why because the product no longer serves its purpose. It's not as enjoyable, it lacks proper atmosphere and most often no longer appeals to me. Unless I have a strong rooting interest i spend my leisure time elsewhere. Sports broadcasting as an industry needs to sort itself out. It's not just mediapro Edited December 18, 2020 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Watchmen said: I don't think anyone has ever referred to OneSoccer as "the way to watch games on delay at your convenience." To be fair, the Lille matches have been available by the time I'm home from work so within a few hours at worst. Fingers and toes crossed that will be true for the 2021 canPL season. hamiltonfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 7:57 PM, SthMelbRed said: Why do people want to watch the A League in Canada? Nobody even wants to watch it here. It's awful. Actually there are people that want to watch it here, different strokes for different folks, and some feel the same way as you do about the A-league about the french league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 14 hours ago, SpursFlu said: Mediapro paid for something they didn't receive. Also one could also argue that the product now is not the product Mediapro or anyone else paid for. I for one as a consumer can say my sports viewing has gone way down. Why because the product no longer serves its purpose. It's not as enjoyable, it lacks proper atmosphere and most often no longer appeals to me. Unless I have a strong rooting interest i spend my leisure time elsewhere. Sports broadcasting as an industry needs to sort itself out. It's not just mediapro Mediapro received what they were (supposed) to pay for - Ligue 1 football games. Their argument for a reduction in payment was the same as yours - that the games lack atmosphere because of a lack of attendance. But the counter argument Ligue 1 made was that with no one in attendance, EPL and Bundelisga viewership is up. And further Mediapro's business model had nothing to do with the quality of games - it was based on the assumption they'd be able to resell the games to Canal+ at an even higher markup. So when a network called their bluff (and rebought a more limited number of games from Bein), Mediapro was stuck and they paid the price for it, though so has Ligue 1. It's a bit of the industry shake up you wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 12:13 PM, SpursFlu said: DAZN is struggling also and as an example happily agreed to split with Canelo Alvarez in order to save money. Oddly enough, Canelo’s on DAZN tonight... CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, RS said: Oddly enough, Canelo’s on DAZN tonight... Yea, they are going a single boxing match at a time for now but I'd expect to see him on DAZN still going forward if it mutually benefits them enough each fight. Hopefully DAZN boxing continues to have some of the big fights as its much cheaper than PPV at $20 per month and casinos and bars that show ppv are under restrictions or closed at the moment with the China originated coronavirus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 12/12/2020 at 8:42 PM, narduch said: There deal might be with BeIn? Looking at bein schedule this week, I see their evening programming is basically from Onesoccer. They're showing Onesoccer Today and then a couple of CPL matches. So, maybe Lille matches for some low cost/free required cancon programming for bein? narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Did anyone re-up their One Soccer subscription? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 40 minutes ago, narduch said: Did anyone re-up their One Soccer subscription? I will simply for the national and olympic stuff. Plus CPL of course. Not in a rush until some actual content is on there again. Also have zero trust they wont mess with the price after I get the year price and give a cheaper option. That said. If anything they are only likely to bump the price up like last year. The lesser the content the more raw a deal on subscription price we get. narduch and An Observer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Mine runs out at the end of January, and I'll renew it then. I know there are lots of little things to complain about, but it's actually not much money for a year's subscription, so I can't be too hardheaded about it. I'm not all that confident that a better replacement will appear if OneSoccer folds, so I feel like I need to chip in just to help keep it going. To be honest, I'm a little disappointed at the number of people here who refuse to pay the yearly subscription. If die-hard Canadian fans won't pay to keep our only streaming site afloat, then there isn't much hope for expanding to the general public. Red and White, Club Linesman, Kent and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/26/2020 at 1:50 PM, toontownman said: I will simply for the national and olympic stuff. Plus CPL of course. Not in a rush until some actual content is on there again. Also have zero trust they wont mess with the price after I get the year price and give a cheaper option. That said. If anything they are only likely to bump the price up like last year. The lesser the content the more raw a deal on subscription price we get. I would assume they'll bump the price since the parent company is in dire financial straights and they know the people already buying OneSoccer will likely continue to do so regardless of a (reasonable) price increase. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 There are lots of things to gripe about with what they have and havent done. I have certainly done that enough in this thread and encourage anyone with gripes to let them know. However, the content and quality in year two was certainly a step up so they are heading in the right direction. One nation and the studio content was very good imo. Dissapointing it just stopped and the price hike was robbery but they need to exist somehow and find balance. We probably have to bear in mind CPL isnt a big seller and hook for subscriptions even if OneMedia is a bigger player, OneSoccer is still more of a boutique store in comparison to big box chain selling big name brand leagues. It is a long game waiting for rights to become available to buy and add to onesoccer. Likely longer now with the current state of play! The work they did distributing The Island Games was excellent imo. Ultimately while the market isnt neccesarily there though for the price to be competitive with other subscription sites. @rkomar is right with us helping support the build if we can. Fingers crossed things go to plan as it will be a packed year with CMNT, Gold Cup, Olympic qualifies and the CPL. Should seem like better value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I've been over paying for football coverage for decades now and will continue to for decades to come. Of course I'm part of a generation that grew up so starved for any real footie coverage that maybe my DNA evolved a survival reflex. That is to say, ALL footie coverage has become a bargan. And you want to talk about gouging? CelticTV has been $300ish Canadian for the last few years and that's even after Champions League & Europa League got picked up by DAZN. Did I get a price break when that happened? Nope. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I wasn’t thrilled that OS basically doubled their prices (by cutting the subscription term in half but retaining the same fee) but I will renew once again when viewable games are on tap. With CPL season 3 and national team games in the coming year it will be worth it. toontownman, MtlMario and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-g-williams Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) According to Kurt Larson, there's also more to come. Fingers crossed for the Scottish Premiership and A-League . . . Edited January 5, 2021 by m-g-williams Cheeta, CDNFootballer, dyslexic nam and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Thats a big get. I know here in Vancouver there are some supporter groups that have sprung up around town. Flamengo had several bars packed for their Copa Libertadores run. Im interested in what the broadcast will sound and look like Scotland would be nice just for the Can con consistently in that league Edited January 5, 2021 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfque8 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 39 minutes ago, m-g-williams said: According to Kurt Larson, there's also more to come. Fingers crossed for the Scottish Premiership and A-League . . . Armen also teasing the same thing elsewhere, that there's more to come... personally, I'd love a Scandinavian league or two. toontownman, SadOnMondays and CDNFootballer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) One soccer kicking things off with the FlaFlu today is amazing I think a nice touch and I think its a miss with other properties they've had, im thinking LigaMX. How about add a couple magazine style programs to educate people and give them a chance to learn about the history of these leagues. It would go a long way. Especially the Brasileirao when the history and passion is second to none Edited January 6, 2021 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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