Trois Reds Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, narduch said: Those MLS numbers are pathetic. TSN's acknowledgement of soccer, sadly, is pathetic. They barely promote it. TSN's website doesn't even have an article on last night's game unless you scroll to "Soccer" on their sports ribbon. I usually stream the MLS games in the background while watching the CPL when there's a time conflict. Yesterday, their "What's On TSN" on the front page was NBA and US Open "early round coverage", without a mention of TFC and Impact. Today, it's US Open, NBA, and AEW wrestling, which shows their priorities. I find it a bit ridiculous that I know more about TSN's soccer schedule (including which channels, like TSN 1, 4 or 5) through the MLS website than through TSN itself. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 46 minutes ago, Trois Reds said: TSN's acknowledgement of soccer, sadly, is pathetic. They barely promote it. TSN's website doesn't even have an article on last night's game unless you scroll to "Soccer" on their sports ribbon. I usually stream the MLS games in the background while watching the CPL when there's a time conflict. Yesterday, their "What's On TSN" on the front page was NBA and US Open "early round coverage", without a mention of TFC and Impact. Today, it's US Open, NBA, and AEW wrestling, which shows their priorities. I find it a bit ridiculous that I know more about TSN's soccer schedule (including which channels, like TSN 1, 4 or 5) through the MLS website than through TSN itself. TSN is Canadian rights holder for the UEFA Nations League and they're not broadcasting any games this weekend. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Trois Reds said: TSN's acknowledgement of soccer, sadly, is pathetic. They barely promote it. TSN's website doesn't even have an article on last night's game unless you scroll to "Soccer" on their sports ribbon. I usually stream the MLS games in the background while watching the CPL when there's a time conflict. Yesterday, their "What's On TSN" on the front page was NBA and US Open "early round coverage", without a mention of TFC and Impact. Today, it's US Open, NBA, and AEW wrestling, which shows their priorities. I find it a bit ridiculous that I know more about TSN's soccer schedule (including which channels, like TSN 1, 4 or 5) through the MLS website than through TSN itself. 43 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: TSN is Canadian rights holder for the UEFA Nations League and they're not broadcasting any games this weekend. So...any doubters about MediaPro snatching the Canadian rights for MLS from TSN? I think they will. I don't see TSN going past a certain amount to keep the rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 50 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: TSN is Canadian rights holder for the UEFA Nations League and they're not broadcasting any games this weekend. DAZN have several games on their schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ansem said: So...any doubters about MediaPro snatching the Canadian rights for MLS from TSN? I think they will. I don't see TSN going past a certain amount to keep the rights TSN is cheap and not forward thinking so I have no doubt they rights can be taken. I think the biggest obstacle is MLS wanting some games on traditional broadcast format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Kadenge said: DAZN have several games on their schedule Are you in another country? I checked the DAZN Canada site and they don't show any UEFA Nations League games. nfitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, narduch said: TSN is cheap and not forward thinking so I have no doubt they rights can be taken. I think the biggest obstacle is MLS wanting some games on traditional broadcast format. MediaPro had said that they wanted to launch their own channels in Canada. Securing MLS rights and more leagues would make that fly. Also, they are offering MLS the potential to sell games to CBC giving that league an unprecedented access to the most Canadian households they ever did. Hard to beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ansem said: MediaPro had said that they wanted to launch their own channels in Canada. Securing MLS rights and more leagues would make that fly. Also, they are offering MLS the potential to sell games to CBC giving that league an unprecedented access to the most Canadian households they ever did. Hard to beat You can't just snap your fingers and start a TV channel in Canada. You need to apply with the CRTC which can take months (years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, narduch said: You can't just snap your fingers and start a TV channel in Canada. You need to apply with the CRTC which can take months (years). They have time to land it, MLS rights are up in 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ansem said: They have time to land it, MLS rights are up in 2022 Oh I though they ended this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 51 minutes ago, Kadenge said: DAZN have several games on their schedule Not on my app it doesn’t. nfitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Ansem said: Latest TV ratings MLS vs CanPL Do these count PVR numbers? I never know how they work it out. I wonder if the first game numbers are always low because of the time of day it airs or because people prefer to watch it live on OneSoccer? Shame OneSoccer don't share their info on how many people are watching. Very interested to see what the real gap is like between MLS and CPL. If fans were in attendance that might level out the tv viewership gap too? Canadian MLS clubs average around 20k, so that is potentially (obviously not realistically but potentially) around 20k of the above figures fans that might usually be attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Ansem said: So...any doubters about MediaPro snatching the Canadian rights for MLS from TSN? I think they will. I don't see TSN going past a certain amount to keep the rights While Bell are invested in the league they will likely try to keep it. I think that is where the worm turns with the CPL, if Bell breaks with the Whitecaps or the CPL can get Bell on board with the league. Dazn carries MLS games other than the Canadian teams don't they, thats what it seems anyway? TSN maybe sells them some games. They don't always stream non Canadian games on TSN. Seems inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Did we hear any ratings numbers for MLS is Back? Were they any better than the current MLS ratings? I wouldn’t be surprised if the MLS ratings are hurt right now by the format of the Canadian teams just playing each other, completely disconnected from the rest of the league, with no announced plan for this changing. The CPL numbers once again are encouraging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, BuzzAndSting said: TSN is Canadian rights holder for the UEFA Nations League and they're not broadcasting any games this weekend. TSN has put previous Nations League matches as a stream since it is basically transmitting the world feed or ESPN. But none listed so far on their streaming schedule. But ABC will be showing 2 matches on Saturday: ISL v ENG & POR vs CRO. So TSN at this point not showing even England is new level of disregard for the sport. Also not scheduled to show GER vs ESP tomorrow even though it can be picked up easily and likely free via ESPN2. Edited September 3, 2020 by red card toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 15 hours ago, Ansem said: They have time to land it, MLS rights are up in 2022 A quick Google search makes it seem that DAZN rights end this year I think. So perhaps they may try for that in the meantime Ansem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 15 hours ago, narduch said: Are you in another country? I checked the DAZN Canada site and they don't show any UEFA Nations League games. Weird...it was listed a few days ago narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Apparently Bundesliga rights are still up for grabs in Canada. Make it happen One Soccer! dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, narduch said: A quick Google search makes it seem that DAZN rights end this year I think. So perhaps they may try for that in the meantime TSN has the Canadian MLS rights other than some Impact games until the 2021 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 11 hours ago, red card said: TSN has put previous Nations League matches as a stream since it is basically transmitting the world feed or ESPN. But none listed so far on their streaming schedule. But ABC will be showing 2 matches on Saturday: ISL v ENG & POR vs CRO. So TSN at this point not showing even England is new level of disregard for the sport. Also not scheduled to show GER vs ESP tomorrow even though it can be picked up easily and likely free via ESPN2. Looks like you can watch Nations League on uefa website red card 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 17 hours ago, toontownman said: Do these count PVR numbers? I never know how they work it out. I wonder if the first game numbers are always low because of the time of day it airs or because people prefer to watch it live on OneSoccer? Shame OneSoccer don't share their info on how many people are watching. Very interested to see what the real gap is like between MLS and CPL. If fans were in attendance that might level out the tv viewership gap too? Canadian MLS clubs average around 20k, so that is potentially (obviously not realistically but potentially) around 20k of the above figures fans that might usually be attendance. It could be the opposite. People just might not find supporterless MLS soccer appealing to watch so ratings could be hit because of that. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 21 hours ago, Ansem said: Latest TV ratings MLS vs CanPL Exciting times. This kind of feels like the Monday Night Wars....anticipating which promotion got the better ratings. BuzzAndSting, toontownman and nolando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I have to write that I do not envy whomever it is that has the responsibility of figuring out viewership numbers, across platforms. I watched three of those matches and the only one where I'd have counted was the Montreal Toronto match. The CanPL matches I took in on OneSoccer. And I could have, had I been inclined, caught the MLS match on DAZN. Really not sure why I still subscribe to TSN. Very rare I watch it anymore. CFL and NHL I usually take in socially so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) On 9/3/2020 at 9:01 AM, Kadenge said: Weird...it was listed a few days ago For some European countries, DAZN has the rights to UEFA Nation's League. You can check which countries on Wiki. Austria I think is one...Germany to. Gonna let you in on a little secret...you switch your IP address to a VPN for the country in question, you will get that country's content. I came to this realization when I logged into DAZN on my work laptop. My company's internet runs on an American VPN, which renders my DAZN useless for soccer since American DAZN is heavily boxing centric. Edited September 5, 2020 by Macksam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 My work blocks DAZN but not OneSoccer (yet). But since probably WFH into next year, it doesn't matter for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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