narduch Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Apparently the Bundesliga rights are up for grabs for next season. I wonder if One Soccer will go for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) ESPN+ got the US rights to Bundesliga starting next season. So, will TSN pick up this free programming to show at least one match on tv/week and stream the rest (similar to what they do with NWSL)? And what is now the raison d'etre for Sportsnet World other than FA Cup & some rugby? Edited September 30, 2019 by red card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Apparently the Canadian rights are sold separately. So TSN would need to be the highest better (over SN, DAZN, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Impact Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 DAZN is gonna go hard for those rights I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Acquiring those rights would be a huge statement from OneSoccer - especially with Davies playing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I wonder if DAZN will care that much if its Canada only though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsC Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 20 hours ago, red card said: ESPN+ got the US rights to Bundesliga starting next season. So, will TSN pick up this free programming to show at least one match on tv/week and stream the rest (similar to what they do with NWSL)? And what is now the raison d'etre for Sportsnet World other than FA Cup & some rugby? Initially, ESPN only had the US broadcast rights for the NWSL, but mid season they obtain the global rights. TSN did't start showing NWSL until the global deal was made. Unless ESPN also has the Canadian rights for Bundesliga, this deal will have no impact for TSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 The service, available at shop.onesoccer.ca/business, allows establishment owners to subscribe to the One Month Soccer plan at a fee of C$75 per month, or to the One Year Soccer annual plan for a single payment starting from C$350 per year. CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ansem said: The service, available at shop.onesoccer.ca/business, allows establishment owners to subscribe to the One Month Soccer plan at a fee of C$75 per month, or to the One Year Soccer annual plan for a single payment starting from C$350 per year. Good news, DAZN still doesn't have the equivalent commercial setup for bars, pubs, casinos to show their streaming in Canada. I'll be pushing my local pub to get in on this. Edited October 3, 2019 by CDNFootballer Ansem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 14 hours ago, CDNFootballer said: Good news, DAZN still doesn't have the equivalent commercial setup for bars, pubs, casinos to show their streaming in Canada. Yes they do: https://premiumsports.ca/#/DAZN CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 14 hours ago, CDNFootballer said: Good news, DAZN still doesn't have the equivalent commercial setup for bars, pubs, casinos to show their streaming in Canada. I'll be pushing my local pub to get in on this. Denny's on Broadway and Burrard in Vancouver has DAZN in the bar area, started in October. CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 1:51 PM, narduch said: I wonder if DAZN will care that much if its Canada only though. They seem to be pushing hard in Canada though ... between acquiring the EPL rights, and all the advertising I see everywhere - much harder than I've ever seen OneSoccer or CSA push. Lofty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Edit: Not sure what to make of this. If we assume 2000 season ticket holders per team (some are known to be higher, while others appear to be lower) the value of this is 75 x 2000 x 7 = $1,050,000, which is a sizable sum. Could this be a case of the league shoring up subscriber numbers to keep Mediapro happy? Edited October 4, 2019 by Ozzie_the_parrot ted and Lofty 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: A really solid pro-fan move. Really increases the value of your season ticket. ted, Lofty, Mikmacdo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFBF Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Well, it's now cheaper for me to get seasons tickets than to pay for my yearly Onesoccer subscription and go to as many games as I have. Mikmacdo, T_Bison and Lofty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 It almost seems like a no brainer. Excellent program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Edit: Not sure what to make of this. If we assume 2000 season ticket holders per team (some are known to be higher, while others appear to be lower) the value of this is 75 x 2000 x 7 = $1,050,000, which is a sizable sum. Could this be a case of the league shoring up subscriber numbers to keep Mediapro happy? I'm sure they (CPL) don't pay $75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, admin said: Denny's on Broadway and Burrard in Vancouver has DAZN in the bar area, started in October. Good to hear, last time I chatted with someone from DAZN a couple of months ago they said they were finally setting something up. Hopefully they, and Onesoccer, heavily contact establishments to make it well known as the bars/pubs/casinos haven't known how to set up with DAZN previously and just reply they don't have a commercial license with them or know how to get it when asking if the usual events they show from ppv and are partially now on DAZN will be shown in their businesses. Edit: Upon looking at the website, this is a commercial reseller(premium sports) of DAZN soccer content only and not all of DAZN content like MMA and boxing events. Hopefully DAZN sets something up finally for their other content to be shown in bars like it is with UFC and boxing events on ESPN ppv and Fox ppv events that the cable companies in Canada also make available to commercial establishments. Edited October 4, 2019 by CDNFootballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Edit: Not sure what to make of this. If we assume 2000 season ticket holders per team (some are known to be higher, while others appear to be lower) the value of this is 75 x 2000 x 7 = $1,050,000, which is a sizable sum. Could this be a case of the league shoring up subscriber numbers to keep Mediapro happy? It helps both in the end, and if the clubs are going to have an extra incentive for season ticket purchases (which they seem to want to have anyway) this is a great way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Edit: Not sure what to make of this. If we assume 2000 season ticket holders per team (some are known to be higher, while others appear to be lower) the value of this is 75 x 2000 x 7 = $1,050,000, which is a sizable sum. Could this be a case of the league shoring up subscriber numbers to keep Mediapro happy? First off, seasons ticket holders got a subscription for $50, not the full $75, so your math overestimates the financial impact by 33%. Second it is a solid way of encouraging seasons ticket holders and shows the strong relationship between OneSoccer and CPL. Third, it is frustrating/pathetic/entirely-predictable that this is where you would immediately go with this sort of announcement. Assuming it is some sort of act of desperation shows the lens through which you view these events. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: First off, seasons ticket holders got a subscription for $50, not the full $75, so your math overestimates the financial impact by 33%. Second it is a solid way of encouraging seasons ticket holders and shows the strong relationship between OneSoccer and CPL. Third, it is frustrating/pathetic/entirely-predictable that this is where you would immediately go with this sort of announcement. Assuming it is some sort of act of desperation shows the lens through which you view these events. His math is wrong, but the forfeiture of revenue is still something that needs to be considered. It's coming out of someone's pocket. I haven't subscribed, but all I seem to hear each week is complaints about the quality of OneSoccer (for a wide variety of reasons). If OneSoccer is forgoing revenue, the improvements to services aren't necessarily coming. If it's coming out of the league's pocket, that's a hit each team is taking. I'm not saying the league/OneSoccer should or shouldn't do this, just that the financial end of things is still something that can't be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I subscribe to both One Soccer and DAZN. The quality, content and functionality of DAZN is hands down vastly superior to One Soccer. After being optimistic at first, One Soccer has been so disappointing and they are lucky as proponents of the CPL, they've gotten at least a few subscribers. But if things don't improve, they won't see another dime from me. nolando, RS, Cheeta and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadOnMondays Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 ^ yeah fully agree. It feels like they're learning as they go, which I'm okay with if they actually learn from their mistakes and improve the service. My biggest complaint is why does it take them so longer after a match is played to make it available for streaming? RS, Club Linesman, Cheeta and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Watchmen said: His math is wrong, but the forfeiture of revenue is still something that needs to be considered. It's coming out of someone's pocket. I haven't subscribed, but all I seem to hear each week is complaints about the quality of OneSoccer (for a wide variety of reasons). If OneSoccer is forgoing revenue, the improvements to services aren't necessarily coming. If it's coming out of the league's pocket, that's a hit each team is taking. I'm not saying the league/OneSoccer should or shouldn't do this, just that the financial end of things is still something that can't be ignored. Surely, they are looking at this as a way to drive supporters of individual clubs to become fans of the league, as a whole. You want a season ticket holder in Victoria to know the players of Halifax, Hamilton, etc, much as a Canucks fan knows all the players of the different visiting teams. If this achieves that goal, it'll aid the overall sustainability of the league. I'm not sure that MLS, big name DPs aside, has even achieved this, yet. USL definitely hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Watchmen said: His math is wrong, but the forfeiture of revenue is still something that needs to be considered. It's coming out of someone's pocket. I haven't subscribed, but all I seem to hear each week is complaints about the quality of OneSoccer (for a wide variety of reasons). If OneSoccer is forgoing revenue, the improvements to services aren't necessarily coming. If it's coming out of the league's pocket, that's a hit each team is taking. I'm not saying the league/OneSoccer should or shouldn't do this, just that the financial end of things is still something that can't be ignored. Is my arithmetic necessarily incorrect? The $50 price could easily have gone the way of the free replica jerseys after year one. Mediapro are likely to have wanted to ramp up prices to a point that generates a profit over the next few years after using a low year one price to get people hooked. The fans who are most committed and hence most likely to subscribe to Onesoccer are the season ticket holders, so as you describe it's difficult to see how this can help in revenue terms, because either the league or Onesoccer are going to have to take a significant financial hit on this. That's something you probably do not do as a business if season ticket renewals and subscription numbers are going well. Worth noting that Halifax appear to have started their renewals before this Onesoccer gift subscription was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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