Ansem Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Watchmen said: TV, but on delay. I don't think it's the same thing. They were carrying Bein Sports prior to that network buying Onesoccer games by the look of it or maybe it has more to do with Fubo (otherwise I doubt MediaPro wouldn’t want to promote that) The whole subscription/viewership is pure BS. This is about Rogers protecting it's interest. CPL is collateral damage. Edited September 13, 2022 by Ansem Correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ansem said: MediaPro is trying to position itself as the "only" place for Canadian soccer. It makes sense for Rogers to protect its investment in MLS rights to ensure that it doesn’t lose viewers which would impact ads revenues if they went down. They broadcast MLS nationally No, they don't. That's TSN/Bell. The rest of your argument is therefore irrelevant for this. Edited September 13, 2022 by Watchmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Watchmen said: No, they don't. That's TSN/Bell. The rest of your argument is therefore irrelevant for this. Oh snap, I mixed up TSN and Rogers (I strikethrough the part). So this has nothing to do with the subsidiary entities and more with the parent company directly. Rogers just doesn’t want MediaPro around and doesn't want to contribute to its growth. Their argument doesn't make much sense. Edited September 13, 2022 by Ansem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ansem said: Oh snap, I mixed up TSN and Rogers. So this has nothing to do with the subsidiary entities and more with the parent company directly. Rogers just doesn’t want MediaPro around and doesn't want to contribute to its growth. Their argument are still a stretch though That would be why I'm saying it would be helpful if OneSoccer released it's subscription numbers and a comparison could be made vs BEIN. Because it becomes harder for Rogers to argue against it if OneSoccer already has comparable or better numbers to BEIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Watchmen said: That would be why I'm saying it would be helpful if OneSoccer released it's subscription numbers and a comparison could be made vs BEIN. Because it becomes harder for Rogers to argue against it if OneSoccer already has comparable or better numbers to BEIN. It was redacted for the public not for the CRTC. This will be their call but thats not the argument they are trying to make (Bein vs their numbers). Bein has the advantage that they don't have... being on cable to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Watchmen said: BEIN does show CPL games though, which means they're "indirectly promoting a competitor". Again, I'd love to know the number of subscribers for BEIN. This was a deal the 2 networks made. One Soccer gets to show Lille games. BeIn gets Canadian content to make their quota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 It's actually laughable for Rogers to call One Soccer too niche. Cable is littered with useless niche channels. Cheeta, ray, red card and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, narduch said: It's actually laughable for Rogers to call One Soccer too niche. Cable is littered with useless niche channels. Good point. Instead of Bein vs. Onesoccer - why is Rogers carrying so many crap channels? Can we see those numbers? toontownman and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I went and checked, Rogers still carries Euro World Sport. That channel no longer has any live soccer rights. They show soccer docs 24/7 and nothing of it is new. That channel should not even exist. Ansem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I am assuming OneSoccer has likely lost at least 40% of their subscribers since Fubo. I'm one of them. I expect they sold the rights to Fubo for a tidy fee in the knowledge that would happen. It's so rare OneSoccer has anything meaningful that isn't on the channel Fubo has. Mango and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, toontownman said: I am assuming OneSoccer has likely lost at least 40% of their subscribers since Fubo. I'm one of them. I expect they sold the rights to Fubo for a tidy fee in the knowledge that would happen. It's so rare OneSoccer has anything meaningful that isn't on the channel Fubo has. I'm actually probably going to go back next year. Especially of the subscription is $100 v $200 Metro and Cheeta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, narduch said: I'm actually probably going to go back next year. Especially of the subscription is $100 v $200 Yeah, not on fubotv for CPL coverage, that's just a bonus, and a good one at that because the signal is waaaay superior on fubotv, I'm there for EPL. No EPL, no fubotv in my house. gwsmith63, Watchmen, Mango and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 CRTC is in Rogers pocket so nothing will probably come of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) The argument that it is of limited appeal is a bit of a stretch though when speciality cable channels are inherently supposed to be aimed at niche audiences. Think this challenge was definitely worth a try and it will be interesting to see what happens. Onesoccer could have strengthened its case if it had picked up the rights to more overseas leagues that have a recent immigrant audience available in Canada to provide more filler content for a full broadcast year. Fully professional but not big 5 possibilities that probably wouldn't be drastically expensive might include Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, Scotland, Croatia, Serbia, Poland, Greece, Turkey, India, China, Nigeria, Egypt. Edited September 15, 2022 by Ozzie_the_parrot Red and White, Metro and SadOnMondays 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 6:34 PM, narduch said: CRTC is in Rogers pocket so nothing will probably come of this. If I had time I'd write to the same guy at the CRTC and ask WTF. And I don't even live in Canada and have to watch the CPL pirate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaldo Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 There are pirate streams of the CPL? Won't OneSoccer work if you set a VPN to Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rivaldo said: There are pirate streams of the CPL? Won't OneSoccer work if you set a VPN to Canada? Yes there are. I've seen them when looking for other streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 On 9/16/2022 at 8:45 PM, Rivaldo said: There are pirate streams of the CPL? Won't OneSoccer work if you set a VPN to Canada? I too lazy to set up VPN, I rarely don't see what i want on some streaming channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Apparently in 2014 TVA Sports successfully argued the same type of case v Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstackho Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Just curious as to why OneSoccer is only targeting Rogers. Why not Bell as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 On 9/18/2022 at 3:51 PM, sstackho said: Just curious as to why OneSoccer is only targeting Rogers. Why not Bell as well? Maybe first one, then the other when they have precedent. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 On 9/18/2022 at 3:51 PM, sstackho said: Just curious as to why OneSoccer is only targeting Rogers. Why not Bell as well? It was reported in the Globe in August that OS is still negotiating with Bell. If it fails, OS intends to file a similar CRTC submission. Metro, Unnamed Trialist, sstackho and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Like all streamers, OneSoccer has had its tech issues. But last night, TSN blew off showing a whole Leagues Cup match. It was still shown in the US & Mexico. narduch and nfitz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Burn it down. All of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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